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Olafur

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If you browse the selection of lights this company makes you find many lights sold under many different names. Snap On, Astro Pneumatic, Förch, Eazy Red and on and on...

I wonder who designed the lights to begin with? Needless to say in all likelihood this company did. The only thing the resellers are "designing" is where to stick their logo on it.
 
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Actually, this sounds to me exactly like they are the OEM and they are respecting the rules of the contract but not a step more. Having worked with more than a few OEMs in the scientific industry, American ones at that, this is the exact response you would get from them if you tried to get a product which matches ours. We give specifications and lock down what is important in the contract, they design the thing for us (through many revisions), at the end we lock down anything else that has shown up as important: you pay through the nose at this point so better to try to lock it down earlier. Once that's complete, the OEM knows exactly what they can and can't do for other companies that come to them.

1) it is a flashlight, there is no proprietary IP in these lights other than trade dress.

2)they explicitly state they will not sell this version. They know the contract and what parts snap-on locked down. Same with the OEMs I work with. They know what they can and can't do. It's up to snap-on to write their contact properly.

3) this is a lighting design company. They have to make a living too with their designs. There are only so many designs of lights. As long as it didn't look identical or infringe on something snap-on locked down in their contact then they have every right to earn their living.



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I understand what you are saying. I know they do that in China. I have an ATD light which is sold under many brand names. That fits your description.

Because these don't exist elsewhere on the market, and because Snap On typically owns their designs, my guess is this was a build to print job. In that case, Snap On probably owns the design, spec, and injection molds. Snap On wouldn't want clones to show up in trucks for warranty service.

To complicate matters, here in the US, there is a distinction between the manufacturer and the design owner. Most times, the manufacturer or OEM IS the design owner. But not always.

Apple is a good example. We all know Apple doesn't manufacture everything. But they own all their designs. They spec internals. There are no apple designed hard drives for example. Within an Apple computer, there may be different brands of hard drives present.

I doubt this company could reuse Snap On's shape/molds. The batteries Snap On specified or the magnets, could be substituted for cheaper versions. And that's likely what this company would do.
 
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Adam.C

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If you browse the selection of lights this company makes you find many lights sold under many different names. Snap On, Astro Pneumatic, Förch, Eazy Red and on and on...

I wonder who designed the lights to begin with? Needless to say in all likelihood this company did. The only thing the resellers are "designing" is where to stick their logo on it.

Chinese companies don't/can't own their designs. The government doesn't recognize intellectual property rights. I doubt there are any Chinese lighting design firms. They would have no way to protect their design products. So any Chinese company can produce whatever they want. Lord knows who first designed those products. Could be a US firm who didn't bother enforce their IPR.

You don't typically see Snap On stuff rebranded, right? That's why I disagree with our sticky thread. A rebrand is where a company produces the same product under multiple brand names. In this case, only the brand name or case color differentiates these product from one another.

A clone is a copy of a product, typically reverse engineered. Clones are typically illegal. You can't clone someone's else IP in the United States. Apple has sued and won against its Asian manufacturers who have done this. For our purposes, the outward appearance of a tool is not sufficient to assume it is a rebrand or functional equivalent. It could be a clone, made of different material, processed or finished differently.

Clones and rebrands are different.
 
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Btw, the Blue Point flip lights that proceeded these were also very nice. They had 4 LEDs so weren't quite as blinding, but still very nice. Nicer to hold, nicer for a pocket. They are also not available anywhere else but from Snap On.

I use to think Blue Point were all rebranded items. But now I see it's more complicated than that. Both Snap On and Blue Point offer rebranded items. Some Blue Point items are made in the USA. Some Snap On items are made in China.
 

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I have the red one I bought from SO. I have been using it well over a year almost daily. The run time on it is decent although not exceptional. Mine has two levels of brightness. First click it's full on, then second click it drops the intensity. This is an important feature for LED as the can be so bright that it makes them hard to use in close proximity. I have my go-to light that is a Snap on with a swivel head that uses a removeable rechargeable battery that is the same for my screw gun, cordless ratchet and my portable buffer. I use the screw gun and that flashlight daily (each with their own battery) and I do not have have to recharge but MAYBE every three weeks. The chargers bring the batteries back to fully charged in short time too. I think maybe 30 minutes. I have several tools with that bettery so if one dies I swap it from another tool and throw the battery on charge. Have had these tools for over two years. Been dropped from 6-8 ft directly on concrete several times without one problem and if that caused them not to work it would be warrantied. yes, you get what you pay for with those..
 
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alien

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Looking for something similar or exactly the same?

I'll see if I see a truck around.
 

Coolguy83

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I love this light too. This light can also be used while it's charging in case nobody knew.
 
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