Ummm, not ****** break when I'm charging somebody $75hr and I'm 50 miles from the nearest town.
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Ummm, not ****** break when I'm charging somebody $75hr and I'm 50 miles from the nearest town.
Rustypigeon
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I have a few Snap On sockets and ratchets. I don't think I will be buying much Snap On in the future.
The issue with some drivers not warrantying their tools is a big issue. If only the original owner can warranty tools, the value of the used tools drops significantly. Who would want to buy an expensive set of tools that won't hold value? Who would want to buy and expensive used set of tools that they can't warranty?
I don't have receipts for the Snap On tools I have. My driver recognizes my face, so he will likely not hassle me. If he decides to sell his franchise, the new driver might tell me to pound sand.
My Proto sockets are just as nice as my Snap On sockets. My 8mm-19mm set of Proto sockets costs $50 at Zoro tools. That same set of sockets cost $174 from Snap On.
The issue with some drivers not warrantying their tools is a big issue. If only the original owner can warranty tools, the value of the used tools drops significantly. Who would want to buy an expensive set of tools that won't hold value? Who would want to buy and expensive used set of tools that they can't warranty?
I don't have receipts for the Snap On tools I have. My driver recognizes my face, so he will likely not hassle me. If he decides to sell his franchise, the new driver might tell me to pound sand.
My Proto sockets are just as nice as my Snap On sockets. My 8mm-19mm set of Proto sockets costs $50 at Zoro tools. That same set of sockets cost $174 from Snap On.
The art of tool buying is picking what each brand does best and matching it to what your work requirements really need .
Snapon not the best at very much in worldwide arena but what they do excel in is worth buying when that quality level really needed . blowing too much dollar on snappy purely as brand junkie or time restraints of not looking or searching products better has it's downfalls beyond just the price ...
Snapon not the best at very much in worldwide arena but what they do excel in is worth buying when that quality level really needed . blowing too much dollar on snappy purely as brand junkie or time restraints of not looking or searching products better has it's downfalls beyond just the price ...
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Wamsutta
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Go ahead and count me in as a KoolAid drinker.
I think Snap-on is one of the best things I can spend money on.
I'm never disappointed with anything I buy from Snap-on.
Ive broken plenty of snapon stuff, one call to my dealer gets a replacement coming and if needed he will do his best to get it to me.
I always wonder what guys bitching about snap on do for a living, every occupation has price options of quality of what they do.
That's because he want you make a bad decision when your drunk and buy a new toolbox.yjWrangler
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Me reading these daily threads complaining about Snap-On prices or comparing totally different things
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Snap on prices **** no doubt. The stuff they make is the best though imo. Even the stuff they dont make is still high quality. I cant think of a single snap on tool i have that is junk or lacking quality.
If snap on is worth the price is the whole trick of it. I dont regret buying any of the snap on stuff i have but the bill hurts sometimes.
I have a snap on hater at work, i really dont understand it. Hes always going on and on about how snap on ratchets **** and craftsman are better, of all things lmao. Hes an insecure guy and i doubt hes ever had much snap on stuff if any. So he goes on to buy a bunch of matco electric impacts that are way to weak to be useful for what we do. Hes basically an idiot.
And nothing against matco i have a lot of matco stuff, the stuff this guy bought though were poor choices and cant do basic things we use impacts for, he praises those matco impacts though. My ratcheting matco wrenches are the best ive seen. I bent the 1/4 one doing insanely stupid stuff with it and the ratcheting part still works great. I finally cracked the 3/4 ratchet part using a sledge on it, i assume thats how it cracked because i never noticed it until recently, it still worked perfectly. I only replaced it because i noticed the crack in the ratchet mechanism
If snap on is worth the price is the whole trick of it. I dont regret buying any of the snap on stuff i have but the bill hurts sometimes.
I have a snap on hater at work, i really dont understand it. Hes always going on and on about how snap on ratchets **** and craftsman are better, of all things lmao. Hes an insecure guy and i doubt hes ever had much snap on stuff if any. So he goes on to buy a bunch of matco electric impacts that are way to weak to be useful for what we do. Hes basically an idiot.
And nothing against matco i have a lot of matco stuff, the stuff this guy bought though were poor choices and cant do basic things we use impacts for, he praises those matco impacts though. My ratcheting matco wrenches are the best ive seen. I bent the 1/4 one doing insanely stupid stuff with it and the ratcheting part still works great. I finally cracked the 3/4 ratchet part using a sledge on it, i assume thats how it cracked because i never noticed it until recently, it still worked perfectly. I only replaced it because i noticed the crack in the ratchet mechanism
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crf450x
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I'm a pro mechanic and I am a huge snap on fan. But in my opinion the warranty aspect is terrible.
If snap on day is Wednesday and you break your only ratchet on Thursday what do you do? Sure he would probably be glad to meet you at 7 when he gets back home 50 miles from you.
As opposed to breaking a harbor freight ratchet, getting through the day with your back up (because buying 2 is affordable) then after work driving 10 minutes to get a replacement. Now this has never happened to me, it's just a thought.
If snap on day is Wednesday and you break your only ratchet on Thursday what do you do? Sure he would probably be glad to meet you at 7 when he gets back home 50 miles from you.
As opposed to breaking a harbor freight ratchet, getting through the day with your back up (because buying 2 is affordable) then after work driving 10 minutes to get a replacement. Now this has never happened to me, it's just a thought.
Mikeske
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There are some things I like Snap-on for and thats the ratcheting screwdrivers, their ratchets and the wrenches IF I can get a decent deal and yes I had to warranty used Snap-on stuff and never had a issue either with mailing it in or if I am lucky the tool truck dealer took care of it. As far as pricing I was always the bargain hunter and buying used. When I worked as a aircraft mechanic (I am retired) I never was into buying one brand. I buy from whoever gave me the best deal on the items I required to do the job. For almost my entire career I used Bonney exclusively and when they went away I buy anywhere anything I needed. Sure I buy Snap-on but also buy Mac, Matco, SK, Craftsman (not their ratchets) NAPA, Gearwrench, Pittsburgh it did not matter as long as the tools did what I needed them to do.
Nobody forces anybody from buying a brand but for some folks it is this brand or that brand. I just never gave a hoot about what brand is on the tool or the toolchest. If you disagree with Snap-on and their pricing structure you have the freedom of choosing another brand.
Nobody forces anybody from buying a brand but for some folks it is this brand or that brand. I just never gave a hoot about what brand is on the tool or the toolchest. If you disagree with Snap-on and their pricing structure you have the freedom of choosing another brand.
Ji m
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If that was the industry standard, and the truck company wanted to remain competitive with the other companies who honor that industry standard,
then yes.
In reality, of course I wouldn't expect a truck to have that warrentee,
but I would expect a $200 ratchet to have it (especially if the $9 ratchet from another manufacturer does).
I have Snap On tools I bought new,
but no receipts and no access to a SO truck.
Would be nice if there was a warrentee available for them still.
Try having a broken 3/8 locking flex head ratchet from matco and the dealer is going belly up. I bought a snap on to replace it till I get it warranted and then the snap on is a backup.
There is very little at HF that I would want in my hands all day, I have plenty of ratchets to make do so not worried about warranty.
CamarosRus
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See I haven't really broken anything in 4 years professionally wrenching. Can't think of a single big item that has failed. A few torx bits, but that was always after hundreds of self tapping bolts in trailer decks with an impact. No room for too many duplicates in a service truck, and it's a harsh environment.
Wamsutta
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If you notice, the guys that post pictures of their Snap-on purchases usually always have a low post count. My guess is they're too busy earning money to have time to post.
crewchief888
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Go ahead and count me in as a KoolAid drinker.
I think Snap-on is one of the best things I can spend money on.
I'm never disappointed with anything I buy from Snap-on.
I can't recall being disappointed in any of my SO purchases either.
But then again I've only been wrenching at const equipment dealers for the past 30+ years
Yeah, gotta pay off the snap-on dealer somehow.
23ford
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The old guys tell me SNAP ON FALL OFF.
I like Snap-On but they need to get real with these prices. At the rate they're increasing they're going to have 10pc combo wrench sets at a grand in 20 years. Its already at nearly $600. $60 per piece for a few ounces of some common forged tool steel. I don't care how ******** of a SO lover you are, you have to agree that's ludicrous (or be willfully ignorant).
Surely they can be more creative in boosting profitability than increasing the whole entire catalog by 5% every year.
Surely they can be more creative in boosting profitability than increasing the whole entire catalog by 5% every year.
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I think the point of my original post is a little lost here, point was the more recent spike jn price. My box at work is a even mix of snap on, mac and box store tools. Never did say that im not happy with the company or the tools they sell, (all my ratchets are snap on for a reason..) nor was i trying to start a thread about bad reps. In perspective, my rep is great. She comes every week, never batts an eye at warranty, or complains that im not a volume buyer. Was only trying to see if others are noticing a notable increase in price.
$395.55 on snap on website. At least get some facts, damn they're already expensive but then you go add an imaginary 50%
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Moparman390
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Me reading these daily threads complaining about Snap-On prices or comparing totally different things
Dude, these are popcorn crunchers.
rustbucket5
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im interested to see if their current business model holds up, more and more i see techs buying from online and other places with snap on where they perceive the value. myself personally i would much rather buy online than pay the the premium for snap on.
Wamsutta
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I still think in the grand scheme of things, Snap-on is relatively cheap compared to all the expenses people have to put out for things that can't be touched like insurance and taxes.
WittHay
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That's well said. Thats why I have a mix of Snap-on, Mac/Proto and various made in Taiwan brands.
Just checked my latest Snap-on purchases and the prices have increased 10% since December 2016. No wonder there is sticker shock on larger sets.
For the OP maybe avoid sets and just get a few really needed sizes.
Wamsutta
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That's what I've always done. I still end up with a set, but not all at once.
Get some facts, try soexlm.
Wasn't that set (soexlm) $500ish not long ago? I've been wanting to add them but really wondering if its worth the added expense....and how do they compare with the other truck dealer offerings (although I'm really down to just them and Cornwell now).
WittHay
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^ I thought I would respond, mainly to say nice 68 series IH
The set Skin mentioned I am assuming, is the 10-19mm long Flank Drive Plus set that lists at $588. The long Flank Drive set is $502. For comparison the Mac long Knuckle Saver set is $470
For the Canadians that Snap-on set is $703.90. A lot of money for 10 wrenches
The set Skin mentioned I am assuming, is the 10-19mm long Flank Drive Plus set that lists at $588. The long Flank Drive set is $502. For comparison the Mac long Knuckle Saver set is $470
For the Canadians that Snap-on set is $703.90. A lot of money for 10 wrenches
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Sorry I can't resist.
I thought people bought Snap-On Tools, because they wanted them, not because they were bargain priced, which by my purchases they never were.
Fwiw I shop at Harbor freight, and I've noticed that their prices of gone up to, just like every other store in town. A few small bags of groceries are $100.
One poster complained that snap on raises their prices 5% a year.
Who doesn't?
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I thought people bought Snap-On Tools, because they wanted them, not because they were bargain priced, which by my purchases they never were.
Fwiw I shop at Harbor freight, and I've noticed that their prices of gone up to, just like every other store in town. A few small bags of groceries are $100.
One poster complained that snap on raises their prices 5% a year.
Who doesn't?
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AustinChamp
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Being over in the UK ,I don't have access to a tool truck , so I have recently bought via ebay some more new snap on ratchets and sockets , and would love to know if the prices i have payed stack up to the prices that are payed from the tool trucks over the atlantic,
these being ;
1/4 drive soft grip locking flex head THLX72 . £65.00 ($87.27)
3/8 drive soft grip long flex head FHLF80 . £75.00 ($100.07)
1/2 drive semi deep impact socket set 312IMS- 1/2 through 1-1/4. £63.10 ($84.72)
The dollar price was compared with an online currency comparison ,
The reason i ask is , do you guys have to pay the same prices from the tool trucks ,as compared to the online price , as over here online prices direct from the manufacturer are often much more expensive than buying via a ebay retailer.
i am lucky enough to have mainly original Britool tools which i find as good as snap on ,
but as this is no longer made , have chosen to buy more snap on again
thanks
these being ;
1/4 drive soft grip locking flex head THLX72 . £65.00 ($87.27)
3/8 drive soft grip long flex head FHLF80 . £75.00 ($100.07)
1/2 drive semi deep impact socket set 312IMS- 1/2 through 1-1/4. £63.10 ($84.72)
The dollar price was compared with an online currency comparison ,
The reason i ask is , do you guys have to pay the same prices from the tool trucks ,as compared to the online price , as over here online prices direct from the manufacturer are often much more expensive than buying via a ebay retailer.
i am lucky enough to have mainly original Britool tools which i find as good as snap on ,
but as this is no longer made , have chosen to buy more snap on again
thanks
A universal catalog increase of a cumulative 5% every year? Pretty much no product manufacturer on the planet does that. Its made 10x worse on simple to manufacture items like a wrench or socket where there is no R&D and tooling has long since been paid for. Not to mention the items that Snap-On doesn't manufacture themselves, of which there are thousands. I can promise their suppliers hardly increase pricing to that extent on a yearly basis, if at all.
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Yep... They are Stupid Expensive, It’s like every morning someone wakes up and discovers that for the first time around here, secondly there is No constitutional amendment that requires that you spend X amount of dollars with them. The Prices will always be dictated by the Free Market, not a bunch of kids crying on the iterwebs, for every one crying there is 5 standing in line to buy, when that trend reverses, We will see changes.
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Yeah a lot of us own them free and clear. Just like the idiots on Matt’s channel telling him he’s indebted to the truck dealers for the rest of his life and his kids life.
Honestly anyone that doesn’t turn wrenches professionally has no say in bitching about what they cost or their warranty. You’re not their market. Buying a broke *** 1970 rusted 3/8 ratchet and expecting it to be warrantied is beyond ridiculous IMO but people on here get their ******* in a bunch over that.
The only tool i would definitely recommend coming from the truck is line spanner sets, the cheaper ones tend to spread too easily and i like the open end set that snap-on sell.
For the rest i've never bothered too much with snap-on, the prices for what you get at times is just far too much, its even more expensive over here than in the states.
I'm a fan of Facom, which although a bit expensive is still a good bit cheaper and still comes with a lifetime warranty. The van comes round every Monday for us, so if i broke something on the Tuesday i'm in for a wait, but i haven't heard of any problems from the guys who have exchanged stuff.
Alot of it also depends on what kind of tools im getting. Stuff like basic sockets etc.. i just go with a cheap brand i like the look and feel of, currently Chinese stuff from ebay, a tekton set, some stuff from Halfords and a few others brands. I'm not too bothered about a warranty on sockets really, when they wear out after a few years i spend about £3-£8 on getting a new single one online. I could do this loads of times and still of saved money over a tool truck set.
Anything with moving parts however i like to buy with a proper lifetime warranty. Stuff like ratchets, ratchet spanners etc... I've stripped 2 ratchets spanners and sent them back to Facom and they were replaced no problem, less than a week turnaround. Electrics i look for a 3 year warranty or more.
Stuff like pliers i buy quality brands (knipex, nws, tekton) but consider them a consumable really, same with screwdrivers.
For the rest i've never bothered too much with snap-on, the prices for what you get at times is just far too much, its even more expensive over here than in the states.
I'm a fan of Facom, which although a bit expensive is still a good bit cheaper and still comes with a lifetime warranty. The van comes round every Monday for us, so if i broke something on the Tuesday i'm in for a wait, but i haven't heard of any problems from the guys who have exchanged stuff.
Alot of it also depends on what kind of tools im getting. Stuff like basic sockets etc.. i just go with a cheap brand i like the look and feel of, currently Chinese stuff from ebay, a tekton set, some stuff from Halfords and a few others brands. I'm not too bothered about a warranty on sockets really, when they wear out after a few years i spend about £3-£8 on getting a new single one online. I could do this loads of times and still of saved money over a tool truck set.
Anything with moving parts however i like to buy with a proper lifetime warranty. Stuff like ratchets, ratchet spanners etc... I've stripped 2 ratchets spanners and sent them back to Facom and they were replaced no problem, less than a week turnaround. Electrics i look for a 3 year warranty or more.
Stuff like pliers i buy quality brands (knipex, nws, tekton) but consider them a consumable really, same with screwdrivers.
byoungblood
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I think as the tech adverse generation retires from the trades, and that isn’t that far off, SO will have to rethink their model a bit. I don’t think the trucks will go anywhere, but if the grumblings here are any indication of the turnover amongst the franchisees, then you may see the trucks becoming company owned and operated at some point. I would guess that a lot of the price is overhead and margin to the dealer, remove that factor and there’s a chance that the prices will at least level off or even fall a little to be more competitive with other brands.
I believe there to be too many other brands with comparable quality available today for people just to keep blindly paying their prices when it is so much easier to research and acquire said alternatives these days.