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Snap-On Pricing Increase (Again?)

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wrenchr

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This thread has all the buzz words of economic jealousy. "Greed", "reasonable profit", "raped" and a few others.

Sounds like a bunch of clap trap whining about the haves and have not's.

I have not the patience...............:) insert sarcasm here.......:D
 
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Sadly not all of us have good dealers available. Still waiting on our Snap-On guy to drop in since I ordered some gloves and a socket 2 weeks before Thanksgiving. I'll have my sockets I ordered online tonight before he shows up again. Same/next day shipping has so far beat out all the truck dealers I've dealt with in the last couple of states I've lived and worked in.

Good on you for having someone that will provide same day service. I've tried to help out buying from the local Snap-On guy instead of online, and it's always ended up being more of a pain than it's worth (price mark up & waiting until they feel like showing up again). So for some of us, it really is an extremely outdated business model.

Agreed. Some are just plain terrible. I hear all the stories and it is pretty sad. There are some good franchise dealers out there, but they are really getting squeezed. If you are fortunate enough to get a dealer that's been around long enough be have an "old" S-O contract, they are much better off financially. The company keeps chopping up the routes and territories to sell more franchises, at the detriment of the existing franchisees in the area. Lots of turnover unfortunately.
 
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Just one thing that lets Cornwell standout is they actually have some pretty good discounts in their basic month to month flyers. For example that set you posted gets discounted ~$50 fairly regularly. Good Snap-On discounts/deals that come close to that require a dealer who's in the know and actively pursuing them and even then they can be in limited quantities. A complete gamble in other words.
 
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Skin- Good point, and also Cornwell's sale prices are not limited to participating dealers who signed up and attended the annual convention. Last month their Metric 10pc. Stubby set was on sale from $262.95 to $199.95. Now only if they sold online...
 

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I don't get it. Why do you care if I spend $500 on a set of wrenches??

I don't care if you spend $500 on a plasma tv, 22" rims or a stripper named 'Russell'.
 

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You get what you pay for..

For a DIY its probably not worth the money..
That is why I always purchased Craftsman, USA made, not as expensive as Snap On, but still good quality. As a DIYer Craftsman was the best you could get in my opinion.
 

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I don't get it. Why do you care if I spend $500 on a set of wrenches??

I don't care if you spend $500 on a plasma tv, 22" rims or a stripper named 'Russell'.

You forgot that some of these people that complain about Snap On's pricing will drop 40k on truck with a tonneau cover, never to see work. Or 15-20k for a muscle car that won't see daylight except 2 weekends a year. Or a buy a complete toolbox full of HF and Craftsman tools, yet they will never see a speck of grease, grime, oil or a scratch from actually using it.

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I dont care if someone buys snappy tools, good for them. What does concern me is the argument that its somehow makes sense, leaves an impression that every kid or new entry, new user just has to have them or he cant turn the bolt or that at the first paycheck signs on with the truck. Its promoting it like its good logic. Another thread says it all, already in debt with poor credit figuring out if the truck will loan him on an 8K toolbox. Its being endorsed as its going to "help" him somehow.
 

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What does concern me is the argument that its somehow makes sense, leaves an impression that every kid or new entry, new user just has to have them or he cant turn the bolt or that at the first paycheck signs on with the truck. Its promoting it like its good logic. Another thread says it all, already in debt with poor credit figuring out if the truck will loan him on an 8K toolbox. Its being endorsed as its going to "help" him somehow.

subconscious brainwashing, I'm sure most of them don't even think about it.

I always pictured the gentleman that looked like AC Slater inside the back cover of last year's catalog smiling and saying "you'll use only Snap-On tools. yes, only Snap-On."
 

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Yeah I guess getting stuff shipped to your door is way less convenient.

What if it breaks? Then how convieniant is it? You are now down a tool for however long it takes to ship yours and then the new back to you. That is of course if they will even warranty it. I am not in a shop full time anymore and I still buy most tools from snap on or Cornwell
 

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My Snap-on guy hates me. I buy stuff used on eBay and warranty it through him.. or when I do buy stuff from him it's on sale or listed at some low introductory price. He'll try to sell me something else like a set of nice sockets but includes a ratchet with it that I don't need.. then gets all flustered when I stonewall him. It's pretty awesome :D

Pick and choose your battles.. if people stop buying their truly overpriced **** they'll charge less, stop making it or figure out how to build it cheaper. Either way, you (the customer) win!

You are part of the reason the prices are as high as they are. He does not have to warranty the tools you bought off eBay but he does. Where do you think that money gets made back up. That's right in the price of the new tool. Take away the warranty of people who purposely are buying broken tools from eBay or flea Markets and the prices would be lower. This not just a Snap on issue. All brands deal with it. Some lower production cost by moving off shore to offset that cost. I for one would be fine with requiring receipts for warranty. That would stop the bs warranty and maybe just maybe we would see a price decrease.
 
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What if it breaks? Then how convieniant is it? You are now down a tool for however long it takes to ship yours and then the new back to you. That is of course if they will even warranty it. I am not in a shop full time anymore and I still buy most tools from snap on or Cornwell

Yea but snappy tools don't break. I've read this here on this forum so it has to be true
 

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I dont care if someone buys snappy tools, good for them. What does concern me is the argument that its somehow makes sense, leaves an impression that every kid or new entry, new user just has to have them or he cant turn the bolt or that at the first paycheck signs on with the truck. Its promoting it like its good logic. Another thread says it all, already in debt with poor credit figuring out if the truck will loan him on an 8K toolbox. Its being endorsed as its going to "help" him somehow.

Spot on.

I worked a summer changing tires, oil, etc., and even at the pittance I was making, you wouldn't believe how often I had it beat into my head that I had to had truck brand tools or I just couldn't do the job right.

Even if I was working with my tools for a living, it would still take a lot of convincing for me to go with truck brand tools for more than a specialty tool here or there. I'm not convinced that their business model is still particularly relevant any longer (at least for what they charge) unless you have someone who shows up at your every beck and call. Otherwise you are still stuck waiting for the guy to show up on his next stop to bring you your new tools, or to replace a broken one. Truth told, most good quality, basic hand tools, don't break often enough under regular use to warrant the premium the truck brands want, period.
 

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You are part of the reason the prices are as high as they are. He does not have to warranty the tools you bought off eBay but he does. Where do you think that money gets made back up. That's right in the price of the new tool. Take away the warranty of people who purposely are buying broken tools from eBay or flea Markets and the prices would be lower. This not just a Snap on issue. All brands deal with it. Some lower production cost by moving off shore to offset that cost. I for one would be fine with requiring receipts for warranty. That would stop the bs warranty and maybe just maybe we would see a price decrease.

You assume that such behavior actually has anything more than the most negligible impact on Snap-on's bottom line.

I'm not condoning or condemning the behavior, but let's not try to suggest that there's some huge number of people buying broken tools and contributing to some huge losses suffered by Snap-on which causes them to raise the price of their tools to compensate.

That's just a ridiculous notion - and that holds for ANY manufacturer. Such behavior didn't run Craftsman into the ground, it's not running Snap-on into the ground.
 

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I said it was PART of the problem. You think it is negligable the impact on the bottom line. Think about how much money Snap on and even Craftsman would put back into the bottom line if they actually enforced the warranty to the letter and not just hand over a new one because you bought a rusty POS from a flea market or put a cheater pipe on a 3/8 ratchet. Who knows maybe craftsman would still be made here. Like I said not the entire problem but absolutely part of it
 
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