Snap On Ratchet Rebuild Kits

[karl1672]

Does anyone know (before I email Snap On) if their rebuild kits include screws? I was just cleaning up my F712 (probably one of the first ratchets I purchased back in the early '70s) and dropped one of the screws somewhere in the bowels of my garage

 

[chadster1]

Yes they include new screws

 

[MrMark]

I see that Snap-on uses blue loctite on the screws in the new s80's. SL80A too. That's the redesigned ratchet with the screws on the face side. Are you supposed to reapply blue loctite after servicing the ratchet? I've always wondered about re-loctiting something. In the past I've tried to pick out the old loctite but you can never be completely successful. On the ratchets it would be impossible.

Chadster, reapply loctite on the S80? On the S80A? Try to pick it out or just drop more in and hope for the best?

 

[Wrench 2201]

MrMark, I just reapply loctite. The screws worked themselves loose on my FHX80and it started to slip so I took them out, re-greased the thing and put a tiny drop of red loctite on each screw. Haven't had any problems since then.

 

[jjjrmx5]

MrMark, I just reapply loctite. The screws worked themselves loose on my FHX80and it started to slip so I took them out, re-greased the thing and put a tiny drop of red loctite on each screw. Haven't had any problems since then.

I personally would not suggest the red loctite for many reasons, but I've re-lubed many a first gen 80 (non A series) tooth and then used blue locktite on the screws after cleaning them and never problem.

Red is for when you wnat to use a propane torch to get the fasteners off.
Not so smart.

 

[MrMark]

Cool, I guess it can't hurt. The red is the permanent one though, right? Red takes heat to break as I recall. Blue breaks with a lot less force?

I felt like I was going to break my torx driver on the blue loctited screws from the factory! It survived thankfully.

 

[MrMark]

I personally would not suggest the red loctite for many reasons, but I've re-lubed many a first gen 80 (non A series) tooth and then used blue locktite on the screws after cleaning them and never problem.

Red is for when you wnat to use a propane torch to get the fasteners off.
Not so smart.

We posted at the same time! I see you had the same question I had.

How do you clean the screws? That seems tough to do.

 

[jjjrmx5]

How do you clean the screws? That seems tough to do.

I used a small brass wire brush to get the old stuff off. If part is loose, MEK, Naptha or laquer thinner I have used to clean the residue off as well with steel wool or a brass wire brush.

Loctite's website should be able to tell you a solvent or two to use to get the residue off, but I get access to Blue Loctite in bulk and thus keep many bottles in my fridge to keep degreadation at a minimum and it sits happily next to my superglue collection, dijon mustard, hoisin sauce and salsa in the top shelf of my fridge.

In most cases, yes, the red loctite req's high heat to get it to release. Blue on tools and brake caliper bolts.
Red on crank bolt and big breaker bar stuff.
But if you wanna fubar your Dual 80, go to town with the red stuff on those little screws. I want to see pics of the dissassembly tho.
LOL.

 

[MrMark]

thanks, I've used the red before, I just can't remember where. Maybe caliper bracket bolts or caliper retaining bolts.

I didn't know about the refrig. I'm sure my stuff is horribly out of date.

 

[jjjrmx5]

thanks, I've used the red before, I just can't remember where. Maybe caliper bracket bolts or caliper retaining bolts.

I didn't know about the refrig. I'm sure my stuff is horribly out of date.

If doing mfgr where use by dates for solvetns and glues is important (MIL spec and ISO type jobs that have records) a lot of it gets pitched if past date so I try to rescue a few each month.

The cold slows down the breakdown of both the cyanoacrylate and the loctite type products big time even if out of date. I still have supeglue many years old that works like a charm around the house that is fridge kept.
Never had a problem.

 

[karl1672]

Thanks guys