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Deafautotech

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My snap on guy have paper that claim the snap on ratchet will fit where craftsman/matco will not fit...

i was read that paper ("display") said snap on ratchet hold longer and make higher torque than craftsman and matco because it have high quality steel and it is sealed ratchet while matco and craftsman use snap ring on it and use different spring that make it look like cheap....

so i had bought newest snap on FLF80 as it will last me for longer unless i abuse it too hard.... :bounce:

i have long length 3/8dr ratchet from craftsman andi bought it in 2002 and still used it since but i have some problem with it as it will shift the lever itself.
 
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Snap-on is what it is because people are sucked in by there marketing. If you are unsure of your mechanical ability, buy Snap-On to compensate. It is the same with convertables and guys that aren't well indowed.
 

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You know what's more amusing than the Snap-On vs. Craftsman debates we've gotten into here?

The fact that the Snap-On corporation is apparently so insecure in their product line that they feel the need to carry propaganda on their trucks touting how much better they are than Craftsman.

You have to seriously question exactly how great Snap-On is if their own marketing department feels the need to continually remind everyone that Snap-On is a superior product.

Apparently the quality of the product doesn't speak for itself... :D
 

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Snap-on is what it is because people are sucked in by there marketing.
It's kinda like Jack Daniels whiskey. There are a lot better whiskies out there for less money. But the JD people are shrewd marketers. If you WANNA BE cool, drink JD. If you ARE cool, drink good whiskey and don't worry about the name.

:bowdown: Snap-On

I spent thousands of dollars with the Snap-On man before I came to the realization that there were a lot of options that were just as good and cost a whole lot less. But my dad bought Snap-On, and everybody around me was buying Snap-On, so I didn't know any better. Now I know better, and I buy what works, regardless of the name on it.
 

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This one time, I went to the ********** after work. I didn't realize that I had left two small 5/16 wrenches in my pocket. One was Snap-On and the other was Craftsman. After the stripper rubbed her huge glittery, coke dusted ***** in my face, I realized I didn't have anymore money on me. So I tried to give her my Craftsman wrench and she threw it back at me. I then tried to give her the Snap-On wrench and that too, was thrown back at me.

True story!
 

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It's kinda like Jack Daniels whiskey. There are a lot better whiskies out there for less money.

Reading these words made me feel frightened and confused. Good thing I held off on that Jack Daniels tattoo I've been thinking about. BTW, what are these better and cheaper whiskeys?
 
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I own 80 percents of hands tools by Craftsman as 20 percents of snap on that which of special tools, impact swivel sockets, and else tools that craftsman dont offer. my snap on guy give me a good discount because i pay cash full when i need buy tool...
 

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The only problem I have with the SnapOn tools is that although their lifetime warranty is hughly touted you need develop a "relationship" with a dealer to get tools replaced. I find it hard to believe a major company like this can get away with selling high-priced tools with a warranty, both by truck AND over the internet, and then leaving you stranded when you need to cash in on that warranty.
 

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I never had a problem with any warranty with snapon tools, i was even with out a dealer for several months and was able to ship tools free of charge to them to obtain an exchange.

Since we are on this subject, i grew up using tools of different makes china, no names. I'm no expert, but there are differences i notice between the tools like the wrenches, snap on alot thiner than most of the companies out there, i even seen people grind down their wrenches in certain situations. Im not here to boast about how great snapon is and that they are superior. I own a husky set at home and it gets the job done. I own a whole 1/2" craftsmen crome socket set just for the price and that they are less likely to break unless your using them with an impact all the time. But you can't put a price on convenience , snapon comes every week which saves me half my day to change a craftsmen socket. But i wrench everyday, just my two cents.

Starrett vs. General.
 
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Reading these words made me feel frightened and confused. Good thing I held off on that Jack Daniels tattoo I've been thinking about. BTW, what are these better and cheaper whiskeys?
Everybody has their own tastes. There are thousands of different whiskies out there, so you'll have to decide for yourself. It's a very pleasant endeavor. Personally, I like George Dickel. It's not much cheaper, but I like it a LOT better. Rebel Yell also suits my taste buds.
 

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Last time i used snap-on tools, i broke a few philips head screwdrivers and twisted the drill bits. This never happens with my Craftsman tools.
I was passed down many snap-on tools that are older and seem a whole lot tougher than then newer ones....I think the quality part of snap-on is gone.
I have good luck with Craftsman and Matco.
Not to mention the Sears store 1/2 miles from the house. NICE.
 

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Last time i used snap-on tools, i broke a few philips head screwdrivers and twisted the drill bits. This never happens with my Craftsman tools.
I was passed down many snap-on tools that are older and seem a whole lot tougher than then newer ones....I think the quality part of snap-on is gone.
I have good luck with Craftsman and Matco.
Not to mention the Sears store 1/2 miles from the house. NICE.

Calling Orville Redenbacher....
 
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I think Mac and Matco are robbing you more if you buy their over priced products, OTC makes alot their of their specialty tools for them and they brand it as their own. But snap on makes all their tool which are branded snap on.

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Same gun Price difference about $100
 

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I think Mac and Matco are robbing you more if you buy their over priced products, OTC makes alot their of their specialty tools for them and they brand it as their own. But snap on makes all their tool which are branded snap on.

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Same gun Price difference about $100

How's that differ from Snap-On bending you over and taking your money?

In both cases, you're paying for the Status Symbol name on the side(and to a lesser extent, the warranty).

To use an oft-quoted reason the Snap-On fans use for buying tool-truck brands, if you break your Nitrocat, they're not going to drive to your jobsite to take care of you, but the tool-truck will.

And, to tell you the truth, from all the good stuff I've heard about Aircats and Nitrocats, I'd rather buy a Mac-branded Nitrocat than a Snap-On...
 

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I'm not getting into which is better, but just because the same company makes both doesn't mean they are equal. Goodyear makes a lot of different tires, not all the same quality. Even if they are branded the same, they might not be equal, it depends on where you shop. The big-box stores push manufacturers so hard to get the price down that sometomes there are two different versions of the same product; one may be made offshore vs. U.S. made, or a few cheaper parts inside.
 

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rt66jt: Too true, but in a lot of cases, manufacturers will produce the same product for multiple labels.

I wouldn't be surprised if the two impact guns that jimmycrackcorn posted above are 100% identical, save for the labeling.

Another example would be the TTI/Ryobi 18V One+ tools, sold as 19.2V Craftsman tools. Same stuff, just different colors (and an extra cell in the battery packs).
 

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True... ever heard of Lisle?

Yeah but that stuff is marked Blue point not snap on, I have noticed that as well. Imperial makes their tubing cutters and some of their flareing tools. But its not marked snap on they are blue point.

Snap on drills and their taps are marked snap on, but i think they are made by hanson and percision twist drill.
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How's that differ from Snap-On bending you over and taking your money?

In both cases, you're paying for the Status Symbol name on the side(and to a lesser extent, the warranty).

To use an oft-quoted reason the Snap-On fans use for buying tool-truck brands, if you break your Nitrocat, they're not going to drive to your jobsite to take care of you, but the tool-truck will.

And, to tell you the truth, from all the good stuff I've heard about Aircats and Nitrocats, I'd rather buy a Mac-branded Nitrocat than a Snap-On...

It's not, but i do own many snap-on product and they make a quality tool. They make alot of tools other manufatures don't make. I'm not knocking all the other tool companys out there and im not saying you can't do it without a snap on wrench. Just like a Starrett and a general tap wrench, there is quiet a difference in quality and variety of tool. Just weapon of choice. They both get the job done.

I own a nitrocat, and love it. I owned a snap on im6500 and it didn't last me 2 years before it took a ****.

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And to add that snapon still makes parts for almost all there old guns tools and toolboxes. Try getting a part for an old mac gun.
 
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It's not, but i do own many snap-on product and they make a quality tool. They make alot of tools other manufatures don't make. I'm not knocking all the other tool companys out there and im not saying you can't do it without a snap on wrench. Just like a Starrett and a general tap wrench, there is quiet a difference in quality and variety of tool. Just weapon of choice. They both get the job done.

I own a nitrocat, and love it. I owned a snap on im6500 and it didn't last me 2 years before it took a ****.

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And to add that snapon still makes parts for almost all there old guns tools and toolboxes. Try getting a part for an old mac gun.

Just to set the record straight about Snap on making their own tools under the Snap on name:

1. You are correct, Irwin makes Snap on taps and Dies

2. Lisle makes the Snap on branded Camshaft pullers.

3. On most Snap on tools, Snap on does try to be "honest" and put a blue point label on them. There are others I can cite that carry a Snap on label and are not made by Snap on.

Of note:
What I found out when I researched what Lisle, KD, KASTAR and so forth made for Snap on; Well, turned me turn around in my tracks.

1. While it is true that you can buy things from their original manufacturer for less; the additional cost for the guarantee is only slightly more expensive in most cases.

2. I learned that if you use the tool often, it is best to go with Snap on, most manufacturers prices were discounted only 10-20% on average off of the Snap on price. The extra cost may be well worth it.

3. They do stock replacement parts well (Not as good as Milwaukee tools, but similar; I could still find parts to a 1974 Milwaukee Hammer drill) and they are readily available. Something to consider.

Just my $.02

-BWP
 
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I like to look at the members "other posts" on these old, forgotten threads to see if they're still around. Some posted a few days ago while others haven't posted since 2008 or so. They've since forgotten about the ol Journal... :(
 

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I buy whatever feels good in my small hands since I'm going to do the wrenching around my house and most times it's a Snap On.

And this discussion is going for 10 years, keep 'em coming.
 
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I buy Snap-On because 1 it is made in USA and 2 because of warranty. I know truck guys are dicks and that is a big turn off for a lot of guys but, I've had good luck doing it over the internet. I've warrantied crusty pieces of **** from yard sales with no issue. I also like to know I'm supporting a USA company. My tools are 80% Snap-On and 20% Craftsman, Mac, Matco, and the rest. I personally think most of there tools are worth the price but other things I agree you can get cheaper other places. It's all in personal preference.
 
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