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I am not quite sure what's wrong with me. I own 2 of these and yet feel like I want another.
 

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I bit. Now I get to see what everyone raves about with these, lol. I have bought from that seller in the past as well, great guy.
 
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OOS. That was fast. Oh well. I'm fine waiting for when I have the money and getting the one that says Williams on it for a little less.

Yeah I have a couple snap ons and a williams, the snappy handle is abit better ergonomically and you can grip it better.

If it was between this for $40 and the williams at $30 id go for the snap on, the extra $10 is worth it for the ease of warranty. Although the williams is still a good buy at $30.
 

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I am not quite sure what's wrong with me. I own 2 of these and yet feel like I want another.

Yeah they are addicting, I have 3 and was still disappointed to see that they were sold out. I guess its 'cause I have 0 red ones so far. :bounce:

edit: Where do you suppose the seller got 120 used SO ratcheting screwdrivers? Weird. Maybe somebody was even more addicted than me.
 

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Are these really that good? I've hated every screwdriver like this I've ever used which has the interchangeable tips. Maybe all I've used is **** and the SO ones are great?
 

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Are these really that good? I've hated every screwdriver like this I've ever used which has the interchangeable tips. Maybe all I've used is **** and the SO ones are great?

I like them, the mechanism is smooth and the bits are a precise fit in the socket. I rarely use any other screwdriver, except of course as a pry bar.
 

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Really? So much for the tool truck equivalents I guess. Are the JH Williams screwdrivers the same as the Snap On Instincts?

I haven't seen the JH Williams version in person but I've read that the mechanism is the same as the SO but the handle is slightly different. It doesn't look like the Instinct handles though.
 

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not the same as the instincts. The mechanism is equivalent. The handles are the only real difference. I have a SO and Williams both, the Williams is 'fatter' and generally the SO hard handle is better to grip.

All this makes it sound like the Williams handle is unusable. This is hardly true. I have the 3 pc Williams T handle driver set also. They are actually the best of the Williams offerings, the T wings are short enough you don't have to try to get at screw heads at an angle and wind up destroying them.

I would probably have grabbed one of these too if I had seen it in time.
 
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Really? So much for the tool truck equivalents I guess. Are the JH Williams screwdrivers the same as the Snap On Instincts?

The mechanisms are the same, the cover for the ratcheting mech' are the same, the end screw caps are the same and so are the bits.

the shanks are different, the snap on has knurling, quite handy but not the end of the world.

the Williams handle is, well the best way to describe it against the snap on would be that its cylindrical where as the snap on is square. As you can imagine you grip a square object better than a cylindrical object so although the Williams is adequate, with oily hands you do struggle to grip the handle trying to really tighten or drive a fixing home or undo something tight.

thats my personal opinion, for working in a oil/grease free environment it would be fantastic and half the RRP of the snap on for the same item in theory.

Also I see Williams selling driver kits now with near identical screwdrivers however they're more bulky and look to be Asian made.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Snap-On-WIL...1584463221&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
 
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For the record, I was asking two different questions.
1) Is the JH Williams WRS-1 equivalent to the one in the OP? I think that has been answered thoroughly, so I thank everyone for their input on that.

2) Does this screwdriver set contain screwdrivers that are exact equivalents of Snap-On: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002NH5F30/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Yup, they're the same as snap on hard handle just different name printed on the handle.
 
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Are these really that good? I've hated every screwdriver like this I've ever used which has the interchangeable tips. Maybe all I've used is **** and the SO ones are great?

Not kidding. For some reason they took me a while to go used to. Forever I kept the selector ring in the "locked" position and used it just like a normal screwdriver, then later on, gradually started using them in the ratchet positions. Now it's like old hat. I've got 3 or 4 that I keep in the sideboxes on different trucks, toolboxes and desk drawers. Very handy.

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Not kidding. For some reason they took me a while to go used to. Forever I kept the selector ring in the "locked" position and used it just like a normal screwdriver, then later on, gradually started using them in the ratchet positions. Now it's like old hat. I've got 3 or 4 that I keep in the sideboxes on different trucks, toolboxes and desk drawers. Very handy.

Eric

I wish they made a miniature version of this driver that used those micro hex bits, that'd be cool and it would give me an excuse to buy another...
 

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I don't have a BACO but I do own 2 Williams. They look and work to me the same exact way as the snap on. Only difference is the knurling grip in the shaft. That and the Williams has one more bit. I forget which one but the snap on I purchased (new) has one less.



How do the baco ratcheting drivers compare to the snap on & Williams?
 

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2) Does this screwdriver set contain screwdrivers that are exact equivalents of Snap-On: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002NH5F30/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Yup, they're the same as snap on hard handle just different name printed on the handle.
this comes up somewhat often in many different threads but I will do my best to answer as to the best of what was most recently said.

Several people have recently said SO is [discontinue/phase out/making scarce] the SO hard handle drivers. This could mean the right answer is these are the same as they used to be? Or they're the best for those looking for hard handles that are still available.

One thread several months back regarding the tip of the largest flat driver not being ground & finished properly, iirc there was discussion that the shanks are not exactly identical to the SO per the Williams rep's email that was shared. I don't remember if it specified they were different raw material or finishing process or manufacturing process was involved.

So the technical answer is kinda. They're good enough for me and better than the MAC hard handles I used recently.
 
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this comes up somewhat often in many different threads but I will do my best to answer as to the best of what was most recently said.

Several people have recently said SO is [discontinue/phase out/making scarce] the SO hard handle drivers. This could mean the right answer is these are the same as they used to be? Or they're the best for those looking for hard handles that are still available.

One thread several months back regarding the tip of the largest flat driver not being ground & finished properly, iirc there was discussion that the shanks are not exactly identical to the SO per the Williams rep's email that was shared. I don't remember if it specified they were different raw material or finishing process or manufacturing process was involved.

So the technical answer is kinda. They're good enough for me and better than the MAC hard handles I used recently.

to me they seem the same, the shanks on snap ons maybe a better quality of chrome or more polished. Williams seem a little dull but other than that side by side id say they were the same/or atleast built to the same spec in terms of tip quality and precision. Williams is a industrial brand and seems to sell alot of tools to manufacturers to use in there facilities over snap on so id find it hard to believe that Williams use a less superior quality of metal for the shanks.

Who knows, theyre cheaper and last aslong as snap on. Just with snap on you have the credit system and drivers so therefore that could be the reason for pricing differences etc.

I got a set for Xmas and checked all the tips while unwrapping them (wife decided to wrap each one, 19 of them), mine were all good and ground correctly. From toolsdelivered.
 

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I have two of the Snap On and have used them for 25 years. Obviously other screwdrivers are satisfactory and the bits interchange, but this is one of those tools you reach for every single time you work on something, a top drawer item. Haven't used the Williams which looks like a close copy, but for an extra $10 I would spring for the Snap On and enjoy it forever
 
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