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About 4 or 5 months ago I traded in my Matco 4s 2 bay Proformance series toobox for a Snap On KRL triple bay. I must say I am dissapointed in the way this box feels compared to my Matco. It just doesn't feel nearly as sturdy. After all of the people I talked too that had them and all the stuff I read on Snap On toolboxes I just dont think they are what they are cracked up to be. Anybody else switch to a Snap On box from something else and feel this way?
 
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I had a krl and feel my 6s is better built but that's just me. Snap on does make a good box though.
 

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I noticed this when checking out the ones on the tool truck. Only one guy at work out of about 40 techs has a Snap On box. The rest are Craftsman, Waterloo, Mastercraft, Beach boxes, 26-41" roll cabs. The one SO box is pretty average quality compared the all the other brands, just bigger at 56".

I just picked up a Waterloo Pro something or other for $300, 41" 14 drawer and the quality is great, US made, ball bearing slides. Before buying it I was seriously considering a KRSC46 or the KRA4107. I just couldn't justify the price, even though that's pocket change for a box to some people on here. $1500 more than I spent on the Waterloo and after handling some I don't feel like it's nearly as much value for the dollar.
 
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Lol, it's a possibility.



OP, how many tools do you have in the box? To me, the more weight you have in a drawer, the more solid they begin to feel.
Its packed full. I am a heavy truck tech so I have a lot of heavy tools. There is litrally no more room in this box, I need to expand already. I had almost everything jammed into the smaller Matco box this one just spread it out more but it was basically full when I moved into it.
 
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He is guessing this thread will make it to five pages before people get bored and quit posting
 
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Heh, yep! That's what I meant. Insult SO around here and you get all of the fanbois arguing against all of the value shoppers. I was just calling it early.

I suppose I could've just used this smilie...

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LOL yeah thats funny. Dont take it the wrong way anyone but some techs have what I call the snap on mentality like some motorcycle guys have the harley menatality and what we say in the turcking world some guys have the peterbilt mentality. Like I said if it wasnt a scratch and dent I would have passed because I'm not paying extra for a name.
 

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I had a Matco 8525 and prior to that had a Snap on KRA. The Matco felt like it was built heavier and seemed nicer than the KRA and the KRL. At the time I had the opportunity to buy any of the 2 bays that I wanted. I checked out co workers boxes and the ones that the dealers had on the trucks and I decided to go with the Matco. I took a desk job for a few years and sold it. When I get the funds to replace it I would probably by another Matco or maybe a Mac. If I were to buy a Snap on it would have to be a smokin deal. For the time being I use a HF 56er.
 

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It depends on when the box was built the older krl series was made thicker up until about when the epiq came out
 
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Interested in more REAL world experience from techs that have had both a KRL or Epiq and a 5s or 6s

Personally, I like both boxes but I think there are +s and -s to both boxes, I do like the 28" depth line of the Matcos which are the same depth as the Lista cabs...just long enough to fit 24" tools front to back but no deeper.
 

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snap on tool box Lifetime warranty


Matco Not lifetime warranty

I went through hell to get rollers swapped and yes i bought the box new

This is actually not true. Matco tool boxes have a limited lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. The exception is damage from normal wear and tear. Basically, officially, no lifetime supply of casters and drawer slides. To me that wouldn't sway my purchasing one way or the other. It takes many years to wear out slides and a lot of moving to wear out casters.
 

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KR1000, KR1001, KR1003 were the last of the heavy built SO boxes.

As soon as they put the L in KRL, that all ended.
 

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Had a Matco now have an Epic, still have a Matco cart JSC-750, also have a snap on KRA at home. I like the lock and roll and epic drawer detents. Matco detents I do not like especially on carts cause the drawers open when you move too easily. I feel the power coat or paint or whatever you want to call it is better on the snap on boxes.

Matco boxes when I last was looking were more expensive and the dealers were not giving nearly the deals the snap on dealers would.
 

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One thing that comes to mind when talking about Snap On or Harleys.. resale value. I can't comment on the difference (or lack of a difference) between brands since I'm the type to buy something and then keep it forever. I like my KRA top & bottom combo and it's been doing what I need it to do for 6 years. I also still have the MAC top, middle & bottom I bought new in 1974... You young pups who trade boxes everytime the wind blows trying to keep up with the tech in the next bay over maybe will be more apt to notice the differences than I would.
 

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One thing that comes to mind when talking about Snap On or Harleys.. resale value.

I've been shopping (tire-kicking) for a new-to-me big box for the last couple years, trying to find the right deal (both in price and in layout), and, quite honestly, I'm not seeing that any brand holds it's value better than any other brand.

What I am seeing is that just about every box/brand has the same realistic resale value: 33% to 50% of original price, with 50% being at the extreme high end. As much as some of these Craigslist kiddies don't want to admit it, a one year old KRL722 in immaculate shape isn't worth any more than a five year old KRL722 in immaculate shape.

Certainly, there will always be exceptions to this. Some buyers will pay more, either out of ignorance, out of perceived value, or out of impatience, but for every person trying to sell their box for 90% of retail, there will be another with an identical box priced in that 33% - 50% range.

(Of course, there will also be that clown that thinks his finance charges turn a $10K retail box into a $14K used box. Sadly, these folks pop up more often than you think.)

In relation to original/retail purchase price, the it seems size is a better indicator of what will hold it's value as the smaller a box is, the BETTER it holds it's value - and that, again, goes for any brand.

The smaller Snap-on/Mac/Matco chests or carts seem to maintain about 50% - 75% of retail. The "homeowner" combos (that we see on sale every Christmas from Sears, Home Depot, etc.) seem to maintain about 50% - 66% of retail.

Old/classic Snap-on and MAC boxes regularly command prices comparable to newer used stuff.

Quite frankly, resale value is one of those things that a buyer should be rationally considering when looking to buy a utility item (i.e. something that they NEED for some kind of use).

Items that depreciate are NOT an investment, and most any tools are going to depreciate.
 
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All I know is, the owner of a shop next door to me was a Snap On guy, through and through. From battery tester to brake lathe, from torque wrench to tool brush. He had the money to buy any tool he wanted. Every tool in every drawer of his big 6 wheeled box was Snap On. But the box itself... was a Matco.
 

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I'm still waiting for a KRL1033 to fall from the sky. I really dig the twin full-length drawers.
 
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One thing that comes to mind when talking about Snap On or Harleys.. resale value. I can't comment on the difference (or lack of a difference) between brands since I'm the type to buy something and then keep it forever. I like my KRA top & bottom combo and it's been doing what I need it to do for 6 years. I also still have the MAC top, middle & bottom I bought new in 1974... You young pups who trade boxes everytime the wind blows trying to keep up with the tech in the next bay over maybe will be more apt to notice the differences than I would.
I wasn't trying to keep up with the guy in the next bay, I worked out of my little Matco for about 13 years. I think the actual model number was mb7425, can't remember exactly. It was before they started calling them 4s, 5s, ect. I don't think I would buy a newer Snap On box again even with the deal I got. I would look for a older one. The list price was around 10k , with the minor paint damage and some scuffs and dings in the trim on the drawers he knocked out down to 6k, then gave me 3k for my little matco. The best part was I only paid 1700 for my Matco 13 yrs ago.:lol:
 

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The bottom of an empty drawer is like a trampoline; you push on it and it springs back up. It needs the weight of the tools to keep it laying flat. I don't know if it was intended that way by the engineers, or if it's a symptom of light gage steel. Reminds me of a car hood that you don't dare sit on.
 

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I've owned a kra, 4s, cornwell and an epiq, and I've had my hands on many krl's, maximizers, 5s's and 6s's. I've got to say that none of them felt flimsy at all. When empty, some of the drawers don't feel quite right, but when loaded, it seems all are begging for more. IMO it's just the small details (trim, latching systems, etc.) of the box that make the difference in which one you prefer.
 
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