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Snap-On Toolboxes?

lineman

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What's funny is the non-professionals have such strong opinions of what professionals need. When you get paid for 18 minutes to do a job that takes 25, messing with loaded toolbox draws that don't open smoothly unless you pull it from directly in front is a time (and money) waster.

There is also an appearance, perception issue. What do you think the average customer thinks when he sees the same $100 toolbox he has at home sitting in the shop? "Oh look, he's frugal and understands that a tool box just holds tools, he must be good!" :spit:

Of course, the same goes for the expensive box that is beat up and filthy. It works both ways.

Self-righteousness is never pretty.

Rather presumptuous of you to think that everyone that disagrees with you is a rank amateur. Talk about self-righteousness.
Perhaps one's knowledge and work ethic in their trade are more important than the "perception" issue to them. Let your work speak for your abilities. Invest more in knowledge and skills than tool storage.
I have nothing against Snap-On. They make fine products as I own several myself. I made my living for 34 years as a heavy equipment/diesel truck mechanic and used a couple of tools in that time.
I still have and use to this day the Proto top box and Duplex bottom box I bought used for $125.00 total the day I started. What is a roller bearing drawer anyway? lol
Through the years I've seen many high end tool boxes that cost 3 times more than the tools they contained. What's inside the box should probably cost more than the box itself.
My boxes hold very heavy tools and have been moved many times by off-road fork lifts, hoists and such through the years. They never had the luxury of epoxy and checkerboard vinyl floors, and guess what, they're still alive.
Someone that has 10K to spend on tool storage because they feel they "deserve" it, perhaps might think of family, friends, or a charity that could put that extra cash to better use.
No matter how hard you try to justify it in your head, you know that tool box isn't worth what you're paying for it. 5 to 10 times the cost of a normal box, I think not. It's a wow, look at my box, I must really know what I'm doing thing. Most of the tools probably look like they did the day they came off the truck from light use. I have opened and closed those drawers in mine a lot of times in 34 years and haven't worn them out yet. Anyone that works in this business has probably worn out more Snap-On tools from everyday use than the wannabes that go gaga over them will ever dream of.
The original poster was just asking how everyone that buys one of these boxes can justify the cost and everybody jumped all over him assuming he's not a "pro" therefore he must not know what he's talking about. Remember, the cost can't be justified, been there, done that, other than by those living in a state of delirium.
 
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therealwormey

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chaz,

I still haven't heard an answer to your question. You have got the obsession part right that's for sure. I suppose there is some truth to the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted"

and lets not forget the old saying "you get what you pay for"

i dont really care either way, i have 2 mac, 2 snapon and a us general, im an equal operunist and like em all
 

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Rather presumptuous of you to think that everyone that disagrees with you is a rank amateur. Talk about self-righteousness.
Perhaps one's knowledge and work ethic in their trade are more important than the "perception" issue to them. Let your work speak for your abilities. Invest more in knowledge and skills than tool storage.
I have nothing against Snap-On. They make fine products as I own several myself. I made my living for 34 years as a heavy equipment/diesel truck mechanic and used a couple of tools in that time.
I still have and use to this day the Proto top box and Duplex bottom box I bought used for $125.00 total the day I started. What is a roller bearing drawer anyway? lol
Through the years I've seen many high end tool boxes that cost 3 times more than the tools they contained. What's inside the box should probably cost more than the box itself.
My boxes hold very heavy tools and have been moved many times by off-road fork lifts, hoists and such through the years. They never had the luxury of epoxy and checkerboard vinyl floors, and guess what, they're still alive.
Someone that has 10K to spend on tool storage because they feel they "deserve" it, perhaps might think of family, friends, or a charity that could put that extra cash to better use.
No matter how hard you try to justify it in your head, you know that tool box isn't worth what you're paying for it. 5 to 10 times the cost of a normal box, I think not. It's a wow, look at my box, I must really know what I'm doing thing. Most of the tools probably look like they did the day they came off the truck from light use. I have opened and closed those drawers in mine a lot of times in 34 years and haven't worn them out yet. Anyone that works in this business has probably worn out more Snap-On tools from everyday use than the wannabes that go gaga over them will ever dream of.
The original poster was just asking how everyone that buys one of these boxes can justify the cost and everybody jumped all over him assuming he's not a "pro" therefore he must not know what he's talking about. Remember, the cost can't be justified, been there, done that, other than by those living in a state of delirium.

I was afraid of this - please go back and re-read what I wrote and point out where I made an absolute statement (like yours above) describing people that disagree with me. Please read my previous comment as well, where I talked about how value means different things to different people and where I refer to my own, used $600 box.

This is the same as the “Has the Harley Davidson Burst Bubble” thread. Long held prejudices and beliefs on both sides with no room for reason or common sense.

And stating that folks buy these boxes because they deserve it - Now who is being presumptuous?

If you don’t want an expensive tool box, why knock others?
 

lineman

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bbmach,

My post did make it sound like you said you deserved a top of the line box and you didn't say that, I'm sorry. But see post #20. Please excuse my computer illiteracy, I don't know how to use the quote thing properly. I also understood that you didn't have a Snap-On box.
We will probably never agree on this topic mainly because of a generational difference.
I give up, you win.
 

bbmach

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bbmach,

My post did make it sound like you said you deserved a top of the line box and you didn't say that, I'm sorry. But see post #20. Please excuse my computer illiteracy, I don't know how to use the quote thing properly. I also understood that you didn't have a Snap-On box.
We will probably never agree on this topic mainly because of a generational difference.
I give up, you win.

It’s all good and no need to give up - this is what the kids these days call the “interwebz” - everyone is entitled and able to share their opinion <O:p</O:p
:beer:
 

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"As a professional tech in a busy shop, you are constantly opening and closing drawers and putting a lot of weight in them. The box needs to last through this kind of abuse for the life of the tech."

"I think when you make a living using your tools every day then you need a toolbox that will stand up to all those repeated openings and the abuse that a pro may heap on it."

"some of the difference include but not limited to: thickness of the material used, design for repeated use/abuse, 100lb drawer slide vs. 250lb (or more) slides."

Why is it considered "abuse" to open and close the drawers of your toolbox?
I know my 30 year old MAC, my 47 year old Snap On, my 53 year old Gray and my 20 year old MasterCraft tool boxes are designed to do just that without issue.
Now my 2 year old Craftsmen... not soo much.
And trust me... none of my drawers are loaded light.


I think I've got about $1500 total invested invested in my numerous boxes.
 

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can you stand in your bottom drawer with out breaking it? i weigh 250 and i can.the store bought boxes are fine for weekend warriors but will not hold up to the every day use of a pro in a busy shop.
 

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Rather presumptuous of you to think that everyone that disagrees with you is a rank amateur. Talk about self-righteousness.
Perhaps one's knowledge and work ethic in their trade are more important than the "perception" issue to them. Let your work speak for your abilities. Invest more in knowledge and skills than tool storage.
I have nothing against Snap-On. They make fine products as I own several myself. I made my living for 34 years as a heavy equipment/diesel truck mechanic and used a couple of tools in that time.
I still have and use to this day the Proto top box and Duplex bottom box I bought used for $125.00 total the day I started. What is a roller bearing drawer anyway? lol
Through the years I've seen many high end tool boxes that cost 3 times more than the tools they contained. What's inside the box should probably cost more than the box itself.
My boxes hold very heavy tools and have been moved many times by off-road fork lifts, hoists and such through the years. They never had the luxury of epoxy and checkerboard vinyl floors, and guess what, they're still alive.
Someone that has 10K to spend on tool storage because they feel they "deserve" it, perhaps might think of family, friends, or a charity that could put that extra cash to better use.
No matter how hard you try to justify it in your head, you know that tool box isn't worth what you're paying for it. 5 to 10 times the cost of a normal box, I think not. It's a wow, look at my box, I must really know what I'm doing thing. Most of the tools probably look like they did the day they came off the truck from light use. I have opened and closed those drawers in mine a lot of times in 34 years and haven't worn them out yet. Anyone that works in this business has probably worn out more Snap-On tools from everyday use than the wannabes that go gaga over them will ever dream of.
The original poster was just asking how everyone that buys one of these boxes can justify the cost and everybody jumped all over him assuming he's not a "pro" therefore he must not know what he's talking about. Remember, the cost can't be justified, been there, done that, other than by those living in a state of delirium.

Rather presumptuous for you to think that anybody with a nice tool box hasn't used their tools to there fullest extent. Not everybody with a nice tool box is a "tool polisher".

And give hard earned money away? Seriously? So somebody with a nice house should sell it, give the money to family members or charity and move into a trailer park? Do you tell somebody with a nice car to sell it and buy a 92 Tempo because they don't need something that nice? No, you wouldn't. So why do people feel so strongly about what tool boxes others buy with their own money is beyond me.


bbmach,

My post did make it sound like you said you deserved a top of the line box and you didn't say that, I'm sorry. But see post #20. Please excuse my computer illiteracy, I don't know how to use the quote thing properly. I also understood that you didn't have a Snap-On box.
We will probably never agree on this topic mainly because of a generational difference.
I give up, you win.

Where in my post did I say I "deserved" a top of the line box? No where. I said I wanted one, and I could afford it, so I bought one. No different then a guy who wants a nice car and can afford one going out and buying one for themselves.
 

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I learned one thing since I purchased a 52" Craftsman only 18" deep. It pays to have a deep drawer, it allows you much better options to layout your tools. I'm stuck, my tools that are bigger- 1" and larger end wrenches only go one way. Deeper drawers cost money If your able - and taking care of your family, extra each paycheck lets you save up or comfortable to finance, and can buy a Snap-On, Matco etc, buy it.
 

zbadass28

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I'm not a mechanic. I do work and restore cars in my spare time. I used only craftsman tools and said I would not buy and truck brand tools. Well I started using some of my buddy's snap on and let me tell you there is a difference. Now with that said I do own a snap on box. I looked long a hard and found one for the price of a high end craftsman professional. The box was 1 year old and perfect condition. I paid off his box for him. (He had money problems)
What I'm saying is there are deals to be had out there if you look. As far as the quality, you just have to use one. The things that where brought up like size, drawer sizes, where a selling point. The number 1 reason I like it is the weight my drawers will hold. I got my whole wrench set (standard and metric, adjustables, short wrench sets and my half moon sets in that drawer and still have room and the drawer opens like butter. Same for my sockets. It's nice to open 1 drawer and there's all my sockets, ratchets, extensions. By the way my main drawers are 52 inches wide.
 
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sleddinfool

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Hi all, first post.. I can see some flaming, lol.. I have been a professional tech for 29 years. I have had numerous and still own numerous boxes.. I have a craftsman top and bottom my dad bought in the seventies and is in good shape as it was always a homeowners box, never in a shop. I also have a cheap craftsman "home tool storage" top and bottom I bought in 1989. These boxes are good for what they were intended for. I have my first set of boxes I bought for work a craftsman top and snap on middle and bottom. The craftsman is just falling apart can not open the drawers without them falling apart and out of the box. The snap on middle is fine, the bottom, well I think it is arouna 1980 model and is pretty rough, drawers hard to open and close. I used it from 1983 until 1991. In 1991 I bought a mac mb1500.. That box was a good box and I used it until four years ago. A guy at work still has it. I then bought a snap-on klr 723 and a cornwell roll around cart.. The cart was nice but always in my way. I never liked the box. Unlock it and toss your keys in the top drawer, close the drawer and it relocked.. I pried the drawer open a few times.. Snappy wouldn't do a thing. Last week I bought a matco series6 box.. I love it, by far the best (and most expensive, but the last box I will buy). Also Matco gave my almost $1,000 more then I paid for the boxes on trade in.. Its a good tax write off also. Kevin
 

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I am happy with my Snap-On toolbox purchase. I've had my box for over 3 years now. As a flat rate tech I track my monthly hours and I noticed an increase in efficiency when I upgraded from my cramped craftsman box to my snap-on unit. I like how freely the drawers open (I can open my most heavily loaded drawer with an outstretched finger without even climbing down from the vehicle I'm working on). I can fully close my drawers with a slight bump of my leg while I'm paying attention to other things. The roll'n'lock system is very fluid and awesome how you can open the drawer with a quick flick of a finger anywhere along its length. I absolutely hate toolboxes with detent drawers so that narrowed my choices way down. I like how my box has a lifetime warranty (NONE of the craftsman, mastercraft, international boxes do). If anything were to fail or wear out my dealer will be coming to my shop and fix it while I keep working. I won't have to spend my days off running around to stores dealing with little old ladies looking through their pop bottle glasses from a customer service desk only to tell me "oh sorry sir, your box only had a 1 year warranty and you bought it 14 months ago"

I used to think like some of you guys, but after spending a couple of hours each week running around to the big box stores on my spare time dealing with warranty exchanges of lesser quality tools I bit the bullet and went with stuff off the tool truck. I brought my cheaper tools home where they serve their time perfectly on weekend-warrior status. If I break a tool at work, I often need another one RIGHT NOW (not on the weekend, not next week, not in 3 weeks because the little old lady didn't see that the rack of 13mm sockets were empty and forgot to put in her stock order. I can call my Snap-On dealer and he will rush one out to me asap if its a crucial tool. If he doesn't have it then his business partner who runs the second truck runs it out. There is no monkeying around. I can completely leave work at work at the end of the day.

There's three guys including myself at my dealership who have the large Snap-On boxes fully loaded with tools that some of you guys would make stupid comments about. Our boxes are triple the size as some of the other techs in the shop and if you look at our pay sheets we are the only three guys who run at 120% efficiency and higher each month while the other guys struggle to make 100%. Some of you guys working hourly positions can get away with your cramped small boxes with rusted/half broken sliders but I see a difference with nice boxes and efficient organization in the flat-rate world. My Classic 78 series bottom with workstation and upper cabinet cost me 5500 bucks and was worth every penny and has more than paid for itself over the years.

I also have a rule with my tools that every tool needs to be cleaned before going back into the box at the end of the day so feel free to call me a nerdy tool polisher but its because that one tool I used to overhaul a transmission might be getting used the next day to disassemble a white leather seat cushion so I get a kick out of the greasers who get customer complaints of dirty work performed when they have to deal with the comeback and not get paid for it. The small amount of time it takes to clean your tools before putting them away is better than having a dirtbag reputation and potentially ruining someones vehicle.

Plus, I spend a third of my life at that toolbox so having a nice one makes my job more enjoyable. It's like the desk jockeys having a crappy cubicle. Sure, you still have your desk and computer to crunch your numbers and send your cheeseball memos out to people but wouldn't you rather have a window office? Well for me, a nice toolbox is like having a window office and a backside view of the hot secretary.
 

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number one reason i got my snap on tool box is because i wanted one. i like snap on tools, most of my tools are snap on, i like the quality of their tools and i want to support snap on. and if i have 15k on tools why would i want to store them in a cheap tool box? i could of spent the money on more tools but i wanted a nice new shiny badass looking toolbox. sorry i could of also given some money away to someone who needed it but the government already takes care of that so i got a new toobox!
 

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can you stand in your bottom drawer with out breaking it? i weigh 250 and i can.the store bought boxes are fine for weekend warriors but will not hold up to the every day use of a pro in a busy shop.

Please post a photo of that.

I'm not in the habit of standing in my tool boxes, Snap-On or any others. And I've NEVER put 250# of tools in a single drawer.
 

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Please post a photo of that.

I'm not in the habit of standing in my tool boxes, Snap-On or any others. And I've NEVER put 250# of tools in a single drawer.

It's really not that big of a deal for a name brand tool box to hold that much weight. There is a picture here on GJ of me sitting on the edge of my 150 lb socket drawer that is pulled out 30 inches. I weigh 180. I actually had a bit of trouble getting the drawer to stay open with me up there since Epiq drawers are angled back 2 degrees so they slide closed with no effort when loaded. Is it pointless? Yep, but it'll do it :)
 
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Thanks to all who had input and I didnt mean to start a debate. I completely understood that there is real value to some in these boxes beyond monetary. I simply wondered what that was given the cost of some I have seen. Next time I get the opportunity, Im going to touch /push the next Snap On I get a chance to visit with.
 

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Rather presumptuous for you to think that anybody with a nice tool box hasn't used their tools to there fullest extent. Not everybody with a nice tool box is a "tool polisher".

And give hard earned money away? Seriously? So somebody with a nice house should sell it, give the money to family members or charity and move into a trailer park? Do you tell somebody with a nice car to sell it and buy a 92 Tempo because they don't need something that nice? No, you wouldn't. So why do people feel so strongly about what tool boxes others buy with their own money is beyond me.




Where in my post did I say I "deserved" a top of the line box? No where. I said I wanted one, and I could afford it, so I bought one. No different then a guy who wants a nice car and can afford one going out and buying one for themselves.


Thank you Matt:thumbup: I've worn off enough SO chrome over the years - not much still has the "right of the tool truck" shine except what I bought recently.....And my retirement is in good order, the bills are paid, my hobbies are fairly cheap...so what if I bought a tool box that is expensive? Did I ask anyone else to pay for it? No. I feel it makes my work a little nicer / easier to deal with and I wanted it. So what?


And as for perceptions / image -- I think everyone's situation may vary - I don't guess yours - but I can tell you my boss makes a point to show off me / my abilities / my tools to new customer / vendors (he's really big on the ten-cent-tour routine to show how great we are) and he make's a point of telling them how I carried in a CM Rally box with handful of wrenches / sockets all those years ago and grew from there in all aspects of the work.....he barely notes my other mechanic who works for me now - good guy, but not nearly the drive / ability and it shows in all aspects.....but that's my case, not yours.....
 

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In most cases, I suspect rationality has very little to do with it. It's passion. And that's fine.
 

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I did not read the whole thread. Tools, including boxes are an investment. Go to any auction and three sets of SO wrenches will sell for the same money as a table full of craftsman. Go right here to the classified page, you will see the same thing.

Does SO cost more? Yes. It costs more through out its whole life cycle. As a buyer or seller.

Having SO tools does not make a better tech. In most cases having SO makes you a more efficient tech. SO market is not the DIY people, it for the professionals. They specialize in tools made to get the job done.

Its not about just having a tool box with tools. The people earning a living using tools need more than just a tool. DIY may only need one size spark plug socket. They will get by with added swivels, extensions. Look at how many different spark plug tools SO has.

SO sells the tools that a pro needs. It comes in configurations that are needed. Engineering behind the tool. They come to you to sell it.
 

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I love my matco pro series box. I agree with alot of guys on here when they say the quality is higher. you can tell a major differerence in the construction.

One reason I did go with my matco box also is becasue my matco dealer was always great to deal with. Sometimes price is not everything. I always had great customer service from my dealer and that meant a lot.

Being able to charge it using credit and may payments makes it alot easier to spend the money too. its easy to see how someone could pay $5K for a box but never have that realization becasue they just have a weekly payment and never write a lump sum check.
 
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