Snap on vs Mac die grinders.

[Ram Hemi]

Anyone ever used both? My cp is just getting to weak to cut through things in a timely fashion or sand things with flap wheels, it
Does work but it takes a while. I want something that isn't going to bog down so much. The .5 hp snap on is around $300 CDN and the .5 hp Mac is around $200. Fair bit of price difference. A guy at work has the 1 hp snappy and said it doesn't bog no matter what you do to it, not looking
To spend that much, I do use my doe grinder almost every day though.

 

[Advan]

Ok..... So a 1/2hp CP860 is half the price of the rip-off snap on ****, and an IR is even less. Jet also makes a great one for a lot less money.

 

[meatsis]

Go with the 1 hp snap on. It's the only die grinder you will ever need. You won't regret it

 

[hrichard]

I paid 165 for a 1hp snappy from my dealer about 5 months ago. Use it almost everyday and it is amazing! Wait for it to go on sale and it is def worth it. Full price......not so much, although it is very nice, I couldn't justify 350 on a die grinder

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[Ram Hemi]

Remember these are Canadian prices. They have it in their "heavy duty" flyer right now but it doesn't actually have a sale price, just the regular price and a great buy type of thing I think.

 

[Tim37]

Either will get the job done.

 

[Wamsutta]

Sioux 1954HP. That thing has so much torque, it'll snap your wrist when you squeeze the trigger.

 

[Ram Hemi]

Sioux 1954HP. That thing has so much torque, it'll snap your wrist when you squeeze the trigger.

Good thing the benefits will cover me to be off work lol

 

[md21722]

Die grinders come in different power levels, 0.33, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.9, 1.0, 1.0+ HP. The more power the more air they use and the bigger they are. For a 2-3" Roloc wheel or flaps I don't think you need a huge one. Some of the imports from Taiwan are pretty good, like Astro Pneumatic and Air cat. If you want a truck brand you may want to look at the smaller sized one from Snap On. I had a Snap On 0.5 HP and sold it. I felt it was too bulky and used too much air.

 

[Greg85mcss]

The senior tech in my shop is a die hard snap on guy. He replaced his old mac with a snap on & hated it. They had a bogo recently for the straight & 90 degree 1/2 hp. Not sure if it's still going on.


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[Skin]

The MAC AG60 is a nice grinder but they don't offer it anymore. All their newer stuff is Taiwan as opposed to the USA OEM they were sourcing from prior. Not saying the newer Taiwan stuff is bad (actually nice with directional exhausts and finger friendly safety) just that you can probably find an equivalent quite a bit cheaper if you look hard enough.

If you don't mind used the recently discontinued AG60 and older ADG400 are workhorses. No experience with the new ones.

The PT400 is nice but its large and the torque can actually be a hindrance if you're just trying to polish something small. Some of the Souix models are basically identical to Snap-On save the actual cushion body sleeve.

 

[JUNK-MAN]

I have a snap on/blue point, and its pretty good but could be better. I'd like to try an IR or mac.

 

[Wamsutta]

Here's one on ebay. The most bad-*** die grinder money can buy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIOUX-1954HP-HEAVY-DUTY-DIE-GRINDER-1-4-23-000-RPM-MADE-IN-USA-/262304418433

 

[Ram Hemi]

Here's one on ebay. The most bad-*** die grinder money can buy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIOUX-1954HP-HEAVY-DUTY-DIE-GRINDER-1-4-23-000-RPM-MADE-IN-USA-/262304418433

$400 CDN, plus $40 shipping plus 60 for import fees lol I can probably get 2 snappy 1 hp die grinders for that lol

 

[Ram Hemi]

Been looking on cp's website, didn't realize they had so many die grinders, there must be 30 + models. Looking at some of the .5 - .7 hp ones, upwards of 30 cfm??? Snap on rates their 1 hp die grinder at 5 cfm, which is probably a little low, my .3 hp cp is rated at 5 cfm.

 

[Schurkey]

I have a Mac half-horsepower die grinder that I've had since the mid-'90s. Far as I know the premium Mac die grinder(s) were made by SP Air in Japan. My elderly Mac sure looks like what I see in the SP Air catalog as the SP-7220, at any rate. I was just on the Mac web-site, and I don't see an aluminum-bodied die grinder like mine any more.

My Mac has hundreds if not thousands of hours on it, carving all sorts of plate- and sheet-steel (and some little bit of cast iron) using either rotary files or abrasive cutoff wheels. It went back to Mac for service once, and I put bearings in it myself once.

The company I worked for supplied "die grinders" for us to use. These were ordinary CP and IR grinders (Not "mini" die grinders) and this Mac would destroy them for torque.

Again, far as I can tell, for a hundred dollars American you can get an SP Air Made-in-Japan grinder just like the wonderful one I have, from Amazon. More, I suppose, in Canada.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002O4WR8S/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I also bought a used Snap-On long-snout die grinder similar to, but older than the current-model half-horsepower PT200AL. I like it very much. I don't care for the plastic housing although I can't argue that it's easier to hold onto than the aluminum of my Mac The Mac gets terribly cold with all the air rushing through it. The plastic housing offers some insulation. I learned to really appreciate the longer housing of the Snap-On for cylinder-head porting. Using two hands makes it easier to control than my Mac. The Snap-On guy gave me three more Snap-On half-horse die grinders that had failed and been traded-in. I had to replace the collet nuts on all three, and I pulled 'em apart for cleaning, lube, and inspection. They all work to varying degrees, but the molded-in threads in the plastic housing that hold the grinder together are weak on the ones I have. The Snap-On and the Mac have similar power, which is to say that they totally kick-*** on the common CPs and IRs.

Yes, the one-horsepower Snappy looks attractive. I don't grind like I once did...but even so, there may be one in my future. I can't decide if I want the long snout PT400L, or just the regular PT400.

 

[[memphis]]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the mini grinder two pack MAC offers are actually Sunex grinders # SX230B & SX232B

I could be wrong about that but... just from my searching

 

[md21722]

Been looking on cp's website, didn't realize they had so many die grinders, there must be 30 + models. Looking at some of the .5 - .7 hp ones, upwards of 30 cfm??? Snap on rates their 1 hp die grinder at 5 cfm, which is probably a little low, my .3 hp cp is rated at 5 cfm.

They rate them at 5 cfm, 25-35 scfm. You go with the bigger number for sizing your air needs if you need to run it for a while. Most 0.3 HP use 14-18 scfm.

 

[nikh]

For the money you are talking about, I would hunt around on ebay for a used Dotco, or maybe an Atlas Copco. I,ve got one of each, and they are great tools. The dotco has a great trigger and is perfect for finer work. While the atlas is a little more on/off and much louder, but will handle heavy stock removal and cutting without slowing down at all.

Either way, they are more of an industrial grade tool, and at least to me feel much nicer to use than any of the mac, snap on, cornwell... air tools I have tried.

 

[Hammer1963]

I have used both Snap-on and Matco die grinders for many years and have had ZERO issues from either brand. I generally use the 1/2 HP models but do own a 1/3 HP Snap-on and a 1 HP Snap-on. All work well for specific jobs. The 1 HP is incredibly stout. I have extras and would make you a great deal. Send me a PM if you are interested