SnapOn Cordless Drills - Educate Me

[Spudland_Dave]

Saw that pic of the green SO drill this am...before I had a chance to post in the thread it appears the thread got killed? what happned?...Anywho..

So I got approval to get myself a new drill for work, saw that green one this morning and figured its what I was getting. Now I'm second guessing myself...lets not make this thread a ******* match, but are the SO's really that much better then a Milwaukee Fuel? I've got the M18 Fuel at home and she's a brute., plus a whole lot cheaper then the SO. Looking at the specs on the CDR6850, the snappy has NOTHING going for it, old fashioned brushed motor, NiCad Batteries, 1 year warranty, etc.. I just dont see the why...and for the record, I love all my SO tools, my driver and such...I am just not seeing why I should ask him to order me one other then the fact I can get a green one?

 

[JerseyBoatBuilder]

The green one posted earlier was a 18v lithium 7850 model

 

[turdferguson13]

It looks like they don't have most of their new lithium tools on their website for some reason. You were looking at specs for the old model.

I feel like the warranty on SO cordless tools is pretty weak compared to Milwaukee's tools. I only own a SO 7.2V screw gun right now but I think when I'm ready for more cordless tools I will be going with Milwaukee due to similar specs, lower prices, and better warranty.

I understand wanting the green though, my screw gun is green!

 

[Spudland_Dave]

The green one posted earlier was a 18v lithium 7850 model

Gotcha...I was working at the time I saw it, so I didn't/couldn't dig into it...then voila, post was gone. Lithium helps it move up the food chain a bit, but still brushed motor I assume.

I feel like the warranty on SO cordless tools is pretty weak compared to Milwaukee's tools. I only own a SO 7.2V screw gun right now but I think when I'm ready for more cordless tools I will be going with Milwaukee due to similar specs, lower prices, and better warranty.

I understand wanting the green though, my screw gun is green!

Yeah...a person can swallow the expense pill a little easier if they had a HUGE lineup of cordless tools & accessories, besides the basics like Impacts & Drills, the lineup in pretty thin when compare it to Milwaukee or DeWalt where you can practically get a 18v Cordless HairDryer.

 

[bobcatdan]

I can't speak for either the new Lin ion SO or the Milwaukee fuel, but I can say this. My ni cad SO will smoke my 28v Milwaukee drill and on paper the 28 volt out specs the SO. Im very sour with Milwaukee due to terrible battery experience with the 28 volt system and went back to ni cad.

 

[toolfreak]

A lot of guys at work use Milwaukee and they hold up pretty good. I have seen some failures but I have also had my snap on drills rebuilt a few times. my main reason for snap on drills is that I have the 3/8 and 1/2" impacts so one battery for all 3 is better than having a couple different chargers.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

I can't speak for either the new Lin ion SO or the Milwaukee fuel, but I can say this. My ni cad SO will smoke my 28v Milwaukee drill and on paper the 28 volt out specs the SO. Im very sour with Milwaukee due to terrible battery experience with the 28 volt system and went back to ni cad.

Which 28V did you have...the V or M? I think that could be true of most other tools being able to smoke the V28...the big volt DeWalt & Milwaukee's were never really known to be that great, reminds me of the Ford V10...all marketing hype and no real grunt, and as such, they had a brief period of success when they first came out and after that really went into obscurity. I know a lot of people who owned a V28 who wont touch a M28 because of the lousy V28.

 

[willhollin]

If you want green go for the Hitachi.

 

[Average_Joe]

IMO, it makes more sense to buy a Makita (or other preferred contractor brand) because the construction industry has a ton more cordless tools out there. Surely the technology and durability is better.

 

[firebox40dash5]

Yeah...a person can swallow the expense pill a little easier if they had a HUGE lineup of cordless tools & accessories, besides the basics like Impacts & Drills, the lineup in pretty thin when compare it to Milwaukee or DeWalt where you can practically get a 18v Cordless HairDryer.

Agreed. I don't mind expensive tools, I've got a good bit of M12 and M18 Fuel myself, but I need to know I can add on without having to buy into another system. Of course it also helps that as expensive as brushless lithium ion tools are, a Snap On with almost 1/3 less torque and unknown durability costs nearly twice as much.

 

[daddy2coull]

i bought the SO 7*** drill body as i already had the impact gun and two batteries. it's much better than any of my dewalt drills i use for home renovation. the pointless light has stopped working after only three months, just waiting for it to be sent away for repair.

 

[daddy2coull]

just looked at both milwaukee and SO websites and they both list there impact guns at 610nm, but it appears the milwaukee is lighter and half the price (in the UK). if my SO gun dies out of warranty i'd be tempted to give the milwaukee combo a go

 

[Bryanthegreat]

I think the snap on drills are nice but there is no way I would pay the price for one. I am sure that the drill is made by one of the cordless drill manufacturers out there and branded for them. Which one who knows, any of the name brands at the home improvement stores will do just as we'll and save you some coin.

 

[bobcatdan]

Which 28V did you have...the V or M? I think that could be true of most other tools being able to smoke the V28...the big volt DeWalt & Milwaukee's were never really known to be that great, reminds me of the Ford V10...all marketing hype and no real grunt, and as such, they had a brief period of success when they first came out and after that really went into obscurity. I know a lot of people who owned a V28 who wont touch a M28 because of the lousy V28.

Yeah I have the V. They were nice tools, but the batteries crapped out pretty much the day Milwaukee stopped caring. Zero response from customer service. My SO ni cads are still going strong for a longer period of time then the v28's did. Most SO cordless tools are assembled in the USA by Sioux.

 

[Rezeppa]

I would rather have a cordless Snapon impact over any other brand. The balance and ergonomics of the snapon guns I own are superior to other brands. I understand that the price is higher but the way the 7850 and 8810 feels in with its balance and size I don't understand how someone can argue that the M18 1/2" impact is comparable. The drills I have used are not equal. I personally don't think I would buy a SO drill only because I can buy a used too tier drill for less than a 1/3 the price and as often as I use a drill driver the benefits don't out way the added cost.

 

[toolfreak]

I am about to switch to Milwaukee after this weeks, my drill I had rebuilt less than 6 months ago is already giving me problems when it gets warm. That makes two rebuilds for this one and one rebuild for my spare in a year and a half.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

I am about to switch to Milwaukee after this weeks, my drill I had rebuilt less than 6 months ago is already giving me problems when it gets warm. That makes two rebuilds for this one and one rebuild for my spare in a year and a half.

Funny you mention the rebuild thing..Had a friendly discussion with my SO guy yesterday about this..gave him the opportunity to sell me a SO drill, he couldn't do it....mind you, he's a good guy, definitely not a "my stuff is the best, everybody else's is junk" kind of guy... His one claim to fame was the flat rate rebuild... even his argument of "well if in 2 years both break, for $130 you can get it fixed like new" didn't hold water cause my response was...well even in 3 years my Milwaukee is covered bumper to bumper for free...and on the 6th year when its out of warranty, chances are there will be a new series that i'd want to upgrade to anyways.

I left the truck thinking wow...for the first time ever this is one market segment where SO cant compete.

 

[senor fozz]

^^^ they could compete but they don't need to, brand power goes further in most people's mind. I completely agree that in six years there is going to be something much better in terms of batteries at least hopefully the price stays the same.

 

[toolfreak]

Funny you mention the rebuild thing..Had a friendly discussion with my SO guy yesterday about this..gave him the opportunity to sell me a SO drill, he couldn't do it....mind you, he's a good guy, definitely not a "my stuff is the best, everybody else's is junk" kind of guy... His one claim to fame was the flat rate rebuild... even his argument of "well if in 2 years both break, for $130 you can get it fixed like new" didn't hold water cause my response was...well even in 3 years my Milwaukee is covered bumper to bumper for free...and on the 6th year when its out of warranty, chances are there will be a new series that i'd want to upgrade to anyways.

I left the truck thinking wow...for the first time ever this is one market segment where SO cant compete.

If it wasn't for wanting a bunch of different chargers than I wouldn't have went with Snap on for a cordless drill. Snap on is hard to beat for cordless impacts but the drills are **** in my opinion. It's just convenient to When I took it apart, I found out my issue was a loose spade connector going from the trigger to the motor.

 

[duneslider]

A bunch of our guys have milwaukee's and the grease/oil seems to make the rubber on the handle break down and get nasty. This doesn't seem to be the case with my makita or the dewalts some of the other guys have.

I have been very happy with my makita li-ion stuff.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

A bunch of our guys have milwaukee's and the grease/oil seems to make the rubber on the handle break down and get nasty. This doesn't seem to be the case with my makita or the dewalts some of the other guys have.

I have been very happy with my makita li-ion stuff.

I've ALWAYS loved the Makita stuff, and always for me goes back all the way to the days when cordless was a novelty...the Makita 7.2v stick drill...tool wise EXCELLENT..I got so PO'ed at the garbage 12v NiCad batteries in my last Makita I swore off Makita and went with the M18. The office bought a bunch of the White Makita 18V Li-Ion stuff, not bad...batteries are better but the tool doesn't impress me. I'd really like to try the normal Teal Green/LXT Big Boy tools.. I know the Makita Drills at the office don't hold a candle to the M18 Fuel drill...Short of Makita shipping me a "Here try this for free" bundle...I'll stick with Milwaukee.