So much research and but need experts input for floor

[TinkerTom]

I recently had a new garage built and have been reading every last post I can trying to figure out which flooring I want to do.

Details about the new garage is that it is 22x24 and the new concrete has had plenty of time to cure. I am looking to do all the work am pretty handy so no worries there. The garage will be used for parking the cars and some household carpentry projects so light to medium use. I am looking for something simple easy to maintain and long lasting with minimal upkeep. So after a month of reading I come seeking final answers to those with knowledge!

Currently I am leaning towards simple sealer, with maybe some color (DeltaDye?). A few products stand out here on the forums but here is where I am looking to get more information because I am not able to find all the details. Several people across many forums have recommended HD6525MMA, and ideally I would want a sealer that I can just touch up when areas start to wear and it bonds well, instead of regrinding everything. So a few questions on that:
- What is the difference between HD6525MMA, HD6600MMA and SEC Sealer?
- I do like the high gloss look but are there downsides compared to a Matte finish?
- Have others used a gloss finish and was it too slippery? Live in the PNW so lots of rain.

There is also Ghostshield 8510 product that I see being talked about but again could use some more information on the longevity and how easy it is to fix worn spots. What is the difference in Ghostshield and HD6XXXMMA?

If Time and Money were not an issue, then my preferred method would be tile. It looks great, its durable, easy to maintain and like others have mentioned it is the king of floors.

I have looked into Epoxy and the other Polyurea products which are great solution but a little more costly, Also what i have gathered is that when they start to deteriorate that you have to grind the floor and redo everything, there is no way to easily patch the deteriorated spots. If I am mistaken please let me know.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

I recently had a new garage built and have been reading every last post I can trying to figure out which flooring I want to do.

Details about the new garage is that it is 22x24 and the new concrete has had plenty of time to cure. I am looking to do all the work am pretty handy so no worries there. The garage will be used for parking the cars and some household carpentry projects so light to medium use. I am looking for something simple easy to maintain and long lasting with minimal upkeep. So after a month of reading I come seeking final answers to those with knowledge!

Currently I am leaning towards simple sealer, with maybe some color (DeltaDye?). A few products stand out here on the forums but here is where I am looking to get more information because I am not able to find all the details. Several people across many forums have recommended HD6525MMA, and ideally I would want a sealer that I can just touch up when areas start to wear and it bonds well, instead of regrinding everything. So a few questions on that:
- What is the difference between HD6525MMA, HD6600MMA and SEC Sealer?
- I do like the high gloss look but are there downsides compared to a Matte finish?
- Have others used a gloss finish and was it too slippery? Live in the PNW so lots of rain.

There is also Ghostshield 8510 product that I see being talked about but again could use some more information on the longevity and how easy it is to fix worn spots. What is the difference in Ghostshield and HD6XXXMMA?

If Time and Money were not an issue, then my preferred method would be tile. It looks great, its durable, easy to maintain and like others have mentioned it is the king of floors.

I have looked into Epoxy and the other Polyurea products which are great solution but a little more costly, Also what i have gathered is that when they start to deteriorate that you have to grind the floor and redo everything, there is no way to easily patch the deteriorated spots. If I am mistaken please let me know.

The MMA products are high-performance acrylics. They cannot tolerate fuels/solvents. SEC can tolerate these products.

6600 is 5% more solids than the 6525.

Can add HDgrip Soft-Skid to any of these for improved texture, if required.

I don't recommend any penetrating sealers be used with the Delta-Dye, they don't have any protecting abilities for our product. HD6525MMA is the least of the sealers we recommend.

Yes, matte is not as strong as gloss. However, we have matte Cherry Wax which works excellent!!

 

[Garage Flooring]

I recently had a new garage built and have been reading every last post I can trying to figure out which flooring I want to do.

Details about the new garage is that it is 22x24 and the new concrete has had plenty of time to cure. I am looking to do all the work am pretty handy so no worries there. The garage will be used for parking the cars and some household carpentry projects so light to medium use. I am looking for something simple easy to maintain and long lasting with minimal upkeep. So after a month of reading I come seeking final answers to those with knowledge!

Currently I am leaning towards simple sealer, with maybe some color (DeltaDye?). A few products stand out here on the forums but here is where I am looking to get more information because I am not able to find all the details. Several people across many forums have recommended HD6525MMA, and ideally I would want a sealer that I can just touch up when areas start to wear and it bonds well, instead of regrinding everything. So a few questions on that:
- What is the difference between HD6525MMA, HD6600MMA and SEC Sealer?
- I do like the high gloss look but are there downsides compared to a Matte finish?
- Have others used a gloss finish and was it too slippery? Live in the PNW so lots of rain.

There is also Ghostshield 8510 product that I see being talked about but again could use some more information on the longevity and how easy it is to fix worn spots. What is the difference in Ghostshield and HD6XXXMMA?

If Time and Money were not an issue, then my preferred method would be tile. It looks great, its durable, easy to maintain and like others have mentioned it is the king of floors.

I have looked into Epoxy and the other Polyurea products which are great solution but a little more costly, Also what i have gathered is that when they start to deteriorate that you have to grind the floor and redo everything, there is no way to easily patch the deteriorated spots. If I am mistaken please let me know.

The MMA products are high-performance acrylics. They cannot tolerate fuels/solvents. SEC can tolerate these products.

6600 is 5% more solids than the 6525.

Can add HDgrip Soft-Skid to any of these for improved texture, if required.

I don't recommend any penetrating sealers be used with the Delta-Dye, they don't have any protecting abilities for our product. HD6525MMA is the least of the sealers we recommend.

Yes, matte is not as strong as gloss. However, we have matte Cherry Wax which works excellent!!

Legacy's sealer is far superior for dye applications than Ghostshield 8510. You need a clear to make it pop and to build a film over the dye. 8510 is outstanding for simple oil stain protection -- no dye.

There is no film so it does not wear off. Depending on use you may need to apply some additional material in 5-10 years.

 

[TinkerTom]

I don't recommend any penetrating sealers be used with the Delta-Dye, they don't have any protecting abilities for our product. HD6525MMA is the least of the sealers we recommend.

Thanks for the quick replies, you guys are awesome! So if I understand this correctly if I go down the route of using dye to color the concrete I should then finish it with an HD6525MMA or would you recommend the HD6600MMA? Also it seems like going with a high gloss is the better option (Stronger, looks better) and if I am worried about slipperiness then adding the HD Grip to it will make it better. What is the Cherry Wax?

Also when you say that the MMA products cannot handle fuels/solvents does that mean that any spill will cause immediate damage that needs to be repaired? Is it easy to spot repair the MMA products if this were to happen? I do not for see this being an issue as I don't use fuels/solvents that often. Would this include oil in cases where a car could drip onto the concrete?

8510 is outstanding for simple oil stain protection -- no dye.

There is no film so it does not wear off. Depending on use you may need to apply some additional material in 5-10 years.

Would I have to apply additional material across the entire concrete or only over the heavily traffic areas? Would I be able to just add material or would it require any grinding?

Again thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!

 

[Garage Flooring]

Thanks for the quick replies, you guys are awesome! So if I understand this correctly if I go down the route of using dye to color the concrete I should then finish it with an HD6525MMA or would you recommend the HD6600MMA? Also it seems like going with a high gloss is the better option (Stronger, looks better) and if I am worried about slipperiness then adding the HD Grip to it will make it better. What is the Cherry Wax?

Also when you say that the MMA products cannot handle fuels/solvents does that mean that any spill will cause immediate damage that needs to be repaired? Is it easy to spot repair the MMA products if this were to happen? I do not for see this being an issue as I don't use fuels/solvents that often. Would this include oil in cases where a car could drip onto the concrete?



Would I have to apply additional material across the entire concrete or only over the heavily traffic areas? Would I be able to just add material or would it require any grinding?

Again thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!

I would never grind for a penetrating sealer. Personally I would respray the whole floor. Once the product is ready for reapplication, the solvent based does very well in a recoat situation.

 

[Angelfire]

I'd hold out for porcelain. Just don't put anything on the floor that would cause you additional prep work if you are still thinking porcelain down the road.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Thanks for the quick replies, you guys are awesome! So if I understand this correctly if I go down the route of using dye to color the concrete I should then finish it with an HD6525MMA or would you recommend the HD6600MMA? Also it seems like going with a high gloss is the better option (Stronger, looks better) and if I am worried about slipperiness then adding the HD Grip to it will make it better. What is the Cherry Wax?



Also when you say that the MMA products cannot handle fuels/solvents does that mean that any spill will cause immediate damage that needs to be repaired? Is it easy to spot repair the MMA products if this were to happen? I do not for see this being an issue as I don't use fuels/solvents that often. Would this include oil in cases where a car could drip onto the concrete?







Would I have to apply additional material across the entire concrete or only over the heavily traffic areas? Would I be able to just add material or would it require any grinding?



Again thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!

Easy to spot repair.
HD6600 is a little better.
Oil will not ruin it, not a problem as long as you clean-up in a reasonable amount of time.

Cherry Wax helps protect the sealer, available in gloss or matte.




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[TinkerTom]

I'd hold out for porcelain. Just don't put anything on the floor that would cause you additional prep work if you are still thinking porcelain down the road.

I thought about this, but due to timing constraints I need the space in the garage and was going to start building my workbench and shelving. Once they are in it will be a while before I would be able to empty everything. I think I am going to go with sealer (Gloss) call it good for now and maybe in 5-8 years depending on how the floor has held up consider tile again.

 

[Armorpoxy]

We carry Ghostshield, but as an alternative put down a single coat if one part SPGX polyurea which cures super fast and you can put your stuff back in by dinnertime. You can degloss it a bit by using our Armorgrip non skid.

Any of these solutions in this string will work. You also can tile over SPGX in the future easily with no prep.