Socket ID

Ilcharlieli · Jun 3, 2021

Hey everyone. I was sorting thru some sockets I received and came across two with out any makers marks. They have size and “Made in USA” stamped in them. Anyone recognize them?

d42jeep · Jun 3, 2021

The USA socket may be made by GM (not the car company), a maker of inexpensive tools. I have a few.
-Don

Vanished Tool Makers: G.M. Co. Manufacturing Inc., Long Island City, New York

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Tom "Python" Aycock · Nov 29, 2023

d42jeep said:
The USA socket may be made by GM (not the car company), a maker of inexpensive tools. I have a few.
-Don

Vanished Tool Makers: G.M. Co. Manufacturing Inc., Long Island City, New York

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Aaagh...the smaller sockets look surprisingly similar to the Oxwall USA sockets...now I gotta go relook at what I thought were Oxwall's...

four.cycle · Nov 29, 2023

Meteor Manufacturing, Buffalo, NY 1/4" drive SAE socket set
Note knurling pattern on socket. Sockets are all stamped "METEOR". Sockets are all stamped with SIZE. Sockets are NOT stamped "USA".

Oxwall Tool Co., Ltd., Flushing, NY
Note: NO knurling pattern on socket. Sockets are all stamped "USA". Sockets are all stamped with SIZE. Sockets are NOT stamped with manufacturer's name.
Size stampings on Oxwall are expressed with a "/" slash, e.g., 11/32

Oldtuleguy · Nov 29, 2023

Some of the oxwalls look similar to the gm

four.cycle · Nov 29, 2023

G.M. Mfg. Co. 10 pc 1.4 dr SAE socket set 112923 09.jpg

G.M. Mfg. Co., Long Island City, NY 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set

G.M. Mfg. Co. 10 pc 1.4 dr SAE socket set 112923 10.jpg

G.M. Mfg. Co., Long Island City, NY 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set

G.M. Mfg. Co. 10 pc 1.4 dr SAE socket set 112923 11.jpg

G.M. Mfg. Co., Long Island City, NY 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set

Note: NO knurling on these G.M. Mfg. Co. sockets (see below.) Sockets are NOT stamped with manufacturer's name. Sockets are stamped "USA" Size stampings on sockets are expressed with a "-" dash, e.g., 7-16

The only other "set of G.M. I have here was a mix of Craftsman, Williams, and Wizard sockets in it, so I had to dig into ebay photos to confirm this:

G.M. Mfg. Co. 1160 12-pc 1.4 drive SAE socket set (Ebay 332505558902 03).jpg

Note: NO knurling on these G.M. Mfg. Co. sockets (see below.) Sockets are NOT stamped with manufacturer's name. Sockets are stamped "USA" Size stampings on sockets are expressed with a "-" dash, e.g., 7-16

Now, before you start thinking "Okay, we got this figured out.":

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7 pc 1.4 dr Driv-O-Socket set (ebay 385930637730 02).JPG

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7-piece 1/4" drive "Driv-O-Socket" set (photo: ebay)

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7-piece 1/4" drive "Driv-O-Socket" set (photo: ebay)

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7-piece 1/4" drive "Driv-O-Socket" set (photo: ebay)

Note knurling pattern on these G.M. sockets. Sockets are not stamped with manufacturer's name. All sockets are stamped "USA"
Size stampings on sockets are expressed with a "-" dash, e.g., 7-16

four.cycle · Nov 29, 2023

The OP's first two photographs show OXWALL sockets. I have NO clue what that third one is.

d42jeep · Nov 29, 2023

Dang. I didn’t want to keep any Oxwall tools and I seem to have a box of sockets. Thanks for the correct ID. Those sockets have to go.

-Don

four.cycle · Nov 29, 2023

^ don't scrap them I may well have holes to fill. I discovered I have more GM, Oxwall, and Meteor than I remembered.

d42jeep · Nov 29, 2023

They will be included in the next care package. Do you want the box too?

four.cycle · Nov 29, 2023

If you're seing me Oxwall, then for sure yeah. It looks like I've got a zip-lock bag full of "orphan" Oxwall sockets.

How do I return the favor?

hey quick question... was Sherman-Klove the ONLY company that made a 1/4" breaker with a 5/16" diameter hole for a cross bar?

d42jeep · Nov 30, 2023

Don’t worry about it. I hate throwing tools away. I’m glad that you can use them.
-Don

four.cycle · Nov 30, 2023

I've already got all four of those boxes in your box. I think that breaker at far left is an S-K, and I don't have any early S-K here. Any idea who made the breaker second from left? (I need a better photo.) No clue why I have HWI branded stuff... probably came in a Thorsen set.
I keep finding oddball stuff jammed into 1/4" set boxes.

d42jeep · Nov 30, 2023

The unmarked breaker next to the one on the left looks like maybe an unmarked Plomb 4766? Just guessin’

The breaker on the left is certainly a wartime S-K.

I might be interested in the Firestone set.
-Don

four.cycle · Nov 30, 2023

unknown 1/4" drive flex handle (breaker) 5¾ inch O.A.L.

^ any ideas on this one?
that S-K breaker is in your box.

d42jeep · Nov 30, 2023

I ruled out a lot of brands but the Plomb 4766 is the closest one I see. I don’t know why they would be unmarked.
-Don

four.cycle · Nov 30, 2023

certainly looks quite similar, doesn't it? knurling same/same it appears.
yeah... unmarked makes no sense. :headscrat

Tom "Python" Aycock · Nov 30, 2023

Ilcharlieli said:
Hey everyone. I was sorting thru some sockets I received and came across two with out any makers marks. They have size and “Made in USA” stamped in them. Anyone recognize them?

I'm gonna say with conviction that the top two pictured are Oxwall sockets. I compared those pics to my known Oxwall's, the two lines (=) on both sides of the USA and the socket size are a dead giveaway for Oxwall.

Ilcharlieli · Nov 30, 2023

Thanks Python. Damn near forgot about this post, still trying to thin out.

Tom "Python" Aycock · Nov 30, 2023

four.cycle said:
G.M. Mfg. Co., Long Island City, NY 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set

G.M. Mfg. Co., Long Island City, NY 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set

G.M. Mfg. Co., Long Island City, NY 10-pc 1/4" drive SAE socket set

Note: NO knurling on these G.M. Mfg. Co. sockets (see below.) Sockets are NOT stamped with manufacturer's name. Sockets are stamped "USA" Size stampings on sockets are expressed with a "-" dash, e.g., 7-16

The only other "set of G.M. I have here was a mix of Craftsman, Williams, and Wizard sockets in it, so I had to dig into ebay photos to confirm this:

Note: NO knurling on these G.M. Mfg. Co. sockets (see below.) Sockets are NOT stamped with manufacturer's name. Sockets are stamped "USA" Size stampings on sockets are expressed with a "-" dash, e.g., 7-16

Now, before you start thinking "Okay, we got this figured out.":

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7-piece 1/4" drive "Driv-O-Socket" set (photo: ebay)

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7-piece 1/4" drive "Driv-O-Socket" set (photo: ebay)

G.M. Mfg. Co. 7-piece 1/4" drive "Driv-O-Socket" set (photo: ebay)

Note knurling pattern on these G.M. sockets. Sockets are not stamped with manufacturer's name. All sockets are stamped "USA"
Size stampings on sockets are expressed with a "-" dash, e.g., 7-16

OK, in the G.M. sockets that don't have the knurling, I think I've got one 1-4" socket that matches but, do yours have the U.S.A spelling with the two decimal points?

Tom "Python" Aycock · Nov 30, 2023

Tom Python Aycock said:
OK, in the G.M. sockets that don't have the knurling, I think I've got one 1-4" socket that matches but, do yours have the U.S.A spelling with the two decimal points?

Like this...

four.cycle · Dec 1, 2023

No. None of my G.M. sockets have a period between "U" and "S" and "A". it is stamped " U S A " (without the periods)
That may or may not be an indicator of anything, though, as G.M. obviously produced different sockets over the course of their operations. (Knurling/no knurling.)

You may have an Oxwall there...

Tom "Python" Aycock · Dec 1, 2023

four.cycle said:
No. None of my G.M. sockets have a period between "U" and "S" and "A". it is stamped " U S A " (without the periods)
That may or may not be an indicator of anything, though, as G.M. obviously produced different sockets over the course of their operations. (Knurling/no knurling.)

You may have an Oxwall there...

It doesn't have the =USA= markings that my other Oxwall sockets have and the size reads 1-4 as opposed to 1/4

four.cycle · Dec 1, 2023

could very well BE a different production run of G.M.
I only have ONE G.M set - shown above.
It's clear from looking at other sets (posted here) that they were not consistent with their markings: knurl/no knurl.
It's not too far a stretch to think they might have used both " U S A " and " U.S.A. " at different times.
A broader sampling would be the only way to definitively ascertain that.

If I can remember I'll look at my Oxwall, which I seem to have plenty.

Tom "Python" Aycock · Dec 1, 2023

So, while we're all in here trying to identify varying sockets...any ideas on these marked FM? Another post summarizes they may be from ForgeMaster but I find their stuff to be marked Taiwan, not USA...

four.cycle · Dec 1, 2023

^ As with many other brands, it appears that perhaps "Forge Master" was originally made in the US and then later was outsourced offshore.

Upland / Upland Forge, Upland, PA. / see Upland Indutries / http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.com/2014/02/vanished-tool-brands-upland-forge.html /

Upland / Upland Industries Inc., 115 Sixth St., Upland, PA 19015 / acquired by Emerson Electric 1976 / "ForgeMaster" tools / patent 4061013 Dec 6 1977 John Kuc & Anthony Kuc / http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.com/2014/02/vanished-tool-brands-upland-forge.html /

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