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I did the survey, but would like to know more info please. Will you be improving on an existing design or engineering your own from scratch? Is this a one time thing or something that you will try and get into production? Some more info will better help to answer some of the questions.
 
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of course google docs is blocked here, in my engineering office....haha

ill do it a home
 

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Replied, but can't help wondering what ethnicity has to do with socket wrenches? And I assumed you were referring to "ratchet" when you said "socket wrench"?
 
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I did the survey, but would like to know more info please. Will you be improving on an existing design or engineering your own from scratch? Is this a one time thing or something that you will try and get into production? Some more info will better help to answer some of the questions.

We are attempting to improve the socket wrench, not create a new one. This is something we will try to get into production and patent so we are a little wary of being too specific. So all I can tell you for now it's that we have way to swap handles and ratchet heads while maintaining strength and tolerance. We have a prototype built (boy did it hurt to cut a snap-on in half).
 
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Replied, but can't help wondering what ethnicity has to do with socket wrenches? And I assumed you were referring to "ratchet" when you said "socket wrench"?

Yes they are Ratchets, but we had people thinking we were redesigning the ratcheting mechanism instead of the whole tool.
Ethnicity is part of the demographics portion that we are required to put in our survey for the class.
 

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Ah... I was sitting here for 2-3 minutes thinking of names to put in the "other" category, forgot S-K (amongst others I'm sure hehe)

From what I can remember, they missed Armstrong, Wright, Williams, SK, BluePoint, and was Proto or Blackhawk on there? Granted Armstrong is Matco.
 

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We are attempting to improve the socket wrench, not create a new one. This is something we will try to get into production and patent so we are a little wary of being too specific. So all I can tell you for now it's that we have way to swap handles and ratchet heads while maintaining strength and tolerance. We have a prototype built (boy did it hurt to cut a snap-on in half).

I'm looking forward to seeing the results of the survey as well as the finished product. I'd be more than happy to put the patented prototype to test for you once it's complete! Just send a few my way lol. Could I ask your location or the school name? I think this is pretty cool and wish I was able to partake in something like this when I was in school. Either way, be sure to keep us all here at GJ in the loop. Good luck!
 

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Replied, but can't help wondering what ethnicity has to do with socket wrenches? And I assumed you were referring to "ratchet" when you said "socket wrench"?

Standard procedure to ask those demographic questions. I assist in teaching statistics at a college and those questions end up in every survey. They aren't necessarily interested in comparing the ethnicities to how you answered (in this case, social scientists love to do that), but more so that the researchers have an idea of who is answering (is it a representative sample of who our customer base would be?). That's a simplified explanation, but with surveys and statistics, a lot of emphasis is put on trying to get a sample (the responses to your survey) that accurately reflects who will be using/buying you product, or joining your group, etc.
 

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Done. Looking forward to the results, and maybe a pic or two of you finished product(s).
 
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You missed bachelor's degree on your survey...that seems like a big one.

Otherwise, answered.
 

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You missed bachelor's degree on your survey...that seems like a big one.

Otherwise, answered.

Agreed...

I hope you also did your research from the early 1900's to the present as there are tons of handle designs and configurations. I would think it would be difficult to come up with a truly different design... and still be able to work under a hood. And bye the way the sidewinder has already been made. Not trying to rain on your parade, just some reality.
 

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Waiting to see how long it takes for someone to ask if they are planning to make it overseas..

I was going to, but didn't. IMO, the only way it will be taken semi seriously is if it is made in the USA. Otherwise, it will be considered another gimmicky homeowners tool from China/Taiwan that will fill the shelves of big box stores. Not sure what customer base they are targeting, but it sounds like a Harbor Freight type tool.
 

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The final Frontier for me is over 60 teeth, locking flex/ roto style head, composite/ or 1000v insulated, with an interchangeable handle style or length.. And quick release. With two detent balls.

And frickin...lasers man...
 

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I did your survey. I'd be interested in seeing the results. Good luck on the project and welcome to GJ

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Filled out Survey. I am a Mechanic/Technician not sure I am your target audience. From what you said it would be a waste of time for me to swap heads and or handles. Also I doubt you will be able to maintain the strength required for a professional. It is quicker to just grab another ratchet and socket.

It is a cool idea but fyi it has been done before with thread on handles and detent handles. Any time you add more machining you increase production costs. Also the better steel ie (proper trace minerals) you use the higher quality machining tools need to be used. I am not trying to be a downer just pointing some things out to you. Best way to overcome this is to own everything from the mine to the retail outlet for it. If you do that you can destroy the competition even in the US. When you do that though you have to be careful of monopoly laws.

As far as this is concerned would love to see the results.
 

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Ha, from reading the survey I would say I am not your target audience. "Do you find that owning multiple socket wrenches in different drive sizes is an inconvenience?"

I've got like 20+ of each drive size so I would say "VERY NO".
 

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Ha, from reading the survey I would say I am not your target audience. "Do you find that owning multiple socket wrenches in different drive sizes is an inconvenience?"

I've got like 20+ of each drive size so I would say "VERY NO".

So true. I love have a "collection" of ratchets in my box.
 
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Waiting to see how long it takes for someone to ask if they are planning to make it overseas..

We are planning on usa made, we need a solid brand name and quality behind us if we are ever going to get the product off the ground.
 

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I did the survey but I am unsure of the purpose for some of the questions that was asked. But nevertheless I answered all the questions.

It was mentioned in post number 12 something about interchangeable handles. Sounds like this is one of those ideas where "one size fits all" type of thing. I am not trying to be a pessimist but if that is the case I have my doubts this idea will work out for your class.
 

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I do not understand how the questions asked are going to improve the design of a socket wrench.

It was more a survey on what type of people use what brands of wrenches, and what perceived reason (not data driven facts) do they choose those wrenches?
 

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I hope this isn't just a ratchet with a set of different detachable handles.. Pretty sure that's been done.. I means, it's like 100 yr old tool by now.. Might be pretty tough to come up with something original..
 

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I hope this isn't just a ratchet with a set of different detachable handles.. Pretty sure that's been done.. I means, it's like 100 yr old tool by now.. Might be pretty tough to come up with something original..
That is the impression I got from reading post number 12. Obviously, we could be wrong, but it does sound like that is the general idea of what the "new ratchet" is.
 

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Yes they are Ratchets, but we had people thinking we were redesigning the ratcheting mechanism instead of the whole tool.
Ethnicity is part of the demographics portion that we are required to put in our survey for the class.
The brands,,,,,,,,,,other gave me typers cramp.

Well if "political correctness" is the call of the day when creating a survey what about me ? My name is Mack but maybe, just maybe, it used to be Michelle :eek:(not really but they also say you are what you eat )
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WTF ?

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So by my understanding you are trying to come up with a new one size fits all type of ratchet. This would not work for me because I use 1/4 drive to 3/4 ratchets. I don't know how that would ever work.

If this doesn't work out you should come up with an open end ratcheting wrench that doesn't have to be pulled back slightly to work, for the times when you only have enough room to swing to wrench a little bit then flip it over and over again.
 
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So by my understanding you are trying to come up with a new one size fits all type of ratchet. This would not work for me because I use 1/4 drive to 3/4 ratchets. I don't know how that would ever work.

If this doesn't work out you should come up with an open end ratcheting wrench that doesn't have to be pulled back slightly to work, for the times when you only have enough room to swing to wrench a little bit then flip it over and over again.

This isnt a "One-Size-Fits-All" solution, you are right that a 3/4 ratchet handle is much too large for a 1/4 ratchet handle so we would have a system for 1/4-3/8 or 3/8-1/2 and the 3/4-1 inch is in its own category.

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This is more of a modular system so you could have two 3/8 flex heads and 5 different handles for the hard to reach places, if one ratchet goes down you could swap the head out with the other one while it's being serviced. Or if you need that 1/4 drive you could quickly swap it with the 3/8 handle you we just using. This isn't a one size fits all, it's two sizes fit most.
 
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