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Some thoughts on tool drawer liner

Chris Adams

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While waiting for it to warm up in my shop (36 degrees this fine New Years day) I felt like posting on some drawer liner experiences.

I have a lot of tool boxes, which, oddly, have a lot of tools in them.
Thus drawer liners as I hate scratching up tools or boxes.
I think I have tried all the popular recommendations you see posted in this forum, with the exception of 'yoga mats'. Why no yoga mats? They don't seem to sell those at any kind of price locally. The only ones I ever found were too thick, too expensive, and would also have been short lived as they had foam inside them. Cut the vinyl skin off foam, it dies. Could never find any sold as mats without the foam.
Just thought I would rate/review some that I have used.
Best to worst, each has its points.
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Best overall; stock Mac tool liner, from about 5 years ago.
Fairly thick, very soft. So sticky on the back that you really need four hands in a long drawer to get it straight. Or you can spend twenty minutes positioning one liner.
Top is tacky to the point that you can feel it grip, but no residue comes off on the tools. Or in the drawer when you peal it out. Very cool material. Keeps the tools in place, eventually they leave imprints in the finish.
This liner does exactly what it should. Cushion the tool impacts as you lay them down. Protects the paint in the box. Protects the finish on the tool. Deadens sound. DOES NOT MOVE in drawer. Holds the tool in place when you open and close the drawer. I would use nothing but this, in a perfect world.
Notice the some tools have left an imprint in the liner. Those fade after awhile, but it shows how deep and solid the grip is.

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Good, but not as good as hyped; Late KRL liner. From 5-10 years ago till present. Thick, passable grip on both the tools and the drawer. However, will slip around if you load it, will not hold tools that well if the drawer is moved quickly, either open or close.
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Good, but can't find source. Very thick rubber liner used in import tool boxes. Found it in some HF boxes, some US made by small suppliers. No brand name, no identifying marks. Just about twice as thick as KRL liner, but almost no texture. Thick enough that tools sink into it a little. Tools will still migrate if you open/close drawer too fast. I have it in three boxes, but again, no source. Soft, but chemical resistant.

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Acceptable; Matco stock liner. From 4-6 years ago. Meets minimum padding, and if cut perfectly, i.e. original stuff, stays put pretty well. It will migrate around the drawer if loaded at the front, will not hold tools in place worth a darn.

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Acceptable; KRA liner from present back to about eight years. Exactly the same as older Blue Point. Works, very much like the Matco liner. Moves a little too much, no tool holding ability.

NO PICTURE, may get one if it warms up soon.
Acceptable within limits; Harbor Freight single pads; These are the ones they sell 'each' not the rolls.
Feel like a thinner version of the KRL liner. Slightly sticky on the bottom, some texture on the top. They will slide around the drawer and tools don't stay put, but they will protect tools/drawers and look decent. Main limitation is size. They are sold in one size, intended for something about like a Craftsman Homeowners box. If they came in bigger sizes, rolls, or a mat, I would buy a lot of this stuff as it looks good and works, plus is cheap.

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Acceptable, but not that nice to look at; Thick weave drawer liner. Sold by everybody. Comes in thick or thin. Many colors.
This can be your best deal on price vs. usability.
Best prices are at places like 99 cent store at 1 foot wide by 4 for a buck.
Also 18 inches wide by 3 feet for a buck.
Costco sells a decent version, sometimes in stock.
HF sells it, of course.
Lowes sells it in multiple departments. In the tool section it is 22" wide by 5 feet, and locally, about 14.50 for 5 feet.
Or you can buy the identical stuff in the shelving area in 24" wide by 5 feet for about a buck cheaper. Different label, but the same stuff. 24" is handy as that is the depth of a Lista drawer, no trimming.
Dollar tree and 99 cent also sell a much thinner version of this stuff cheaply. I have not used it as the price difference vs. the thicker stuff makes it unneeded. You can often buy the thicker stuff at the dollar stores, usually shorter rolls for a buck.

This stuff will stay put in the drawer, and will grip tools better than anything except the Mac liner.
The look is my biggest complaint. Cutting it to fit requires more time than it should, especially if you have to cut it on two sides. Expect it to be crooked if you have to both shorten and narrow it.

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Barely acceptable; Snap-On KR liner. Love the KR boxes, but the liner is thin, and mobile. Older time and liners at all were a big thing. If you don't load them heavily, they move to the back of the box over a short time. Tools roll around or slide.
 
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Chris, you left out Cork. Sold in thin rolls, cost isn't prohibitive (I can't recall what I actually paid...) good for vintage box you want to have the "period look" on. (I recently did a '54 Craftsman 5 drawer roller with this)

Takes a little time to flatten out, but once it does, it's fine.

ps: Lowes has it.
 

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Chris, you left out Cork. Sold in thin rolls, cost isn't prohibitive (I can't recall what I actually paid...) good for vintage box you want to have the "period look" on. (I recently did a '54 Craftsman 5 drawer roller with this)

Takes a little time to flatten out, but once it does, it's fine.

ps: Lowes has it.

Doesn't it smell with age though?
 

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Chris, you left out Cork. Sold in thin rolls, cost isn't prohibitive (I can't recall what I actually paid...) good for vintage box you want to have the "period look" on. (I recently did a '54 Craftsman 5 drawer roller with this)

Takes a little time to flatten out, but once it does, it's fine.

ps: Lowes has it.

office max also sells the cork in rolls, I just checked the website and I didnt find it but i've seen it there in person when I was trying to figure out what to use.
 

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I just lined my toolbox drawers yesterday with black conveyor belt material left over from a job where I work. It's about 1/8" thick rubberized vinyl interwoven with threads like the sidewall of a tire. Smooth and shiny on top, rougher on bottom. Could be flipped as needed. Works and looks great. I even cleaned it off with lacquer thinner after cutting to size and the thinner didn't affect the shine.
 
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Chris, you left out Cork. Sold in thin rolls, cost isn't prohibitive (I can't recall what I actually paid...) good for vintage box you want to have the "period look" on. (I recently did a '54 Craftsman 5 drawer roller with this)

Takes a little time to flatten out, but once it does, it's fine.

ps: Lowes has it.

Tried it a few years ago. Don't have any drawers that still use it.
Didn't fit well, unless you glued it.
Aged badly. Very badly.
I used it in instrument drawers and it got terminally dirty, died from the heat (I live in a desert) and in general looked bad.
Expensive, as well.
Other brands, other climates, it may work well, just didn't have luck here.
 
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This guy on ebay sells the best liner I have ever used. Thick, sticky, and comes in a variety of colors.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/mtryan33/m....602&pt=Tool_Boxes_Storage&_trksid=p4340.l2562

I almost bought the blue liner from him. It's the same as the black I used, but cheaper. Decided I didn't want to wait on shipping, so I picked it up locally.
Of course, the stuff I bought is thicker, by quite a bit than his blue stuff.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOOL-BOX-DR...349?pt=Tool_Boxes_Storage&hash=item35a6e35a5d
stuff looks nice, but it would have set me back 100 bucks plus, just for one box.



I have gone through a ton of liner material.
When I buy a box, most the time the liners are gone or ragged.
When I sell a box, it always has liners. So in the last three or four years I've probably bought enough to cover my shop floor a couple times.
Price is pretty important, as is tool holding.

Anything will cover the drawer, heck, you could use cardboard, paper towel, or an old towel.

I want something that helps keep the tools in place, doesn't migrate if you open or close fast, doesn't crumble or decay, doesn't attract moisture, doesn't corrode the tools, etc.
And does not cost an arm and a leg.
 
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I just lined my toolbox drawers yesterday with black conveyor belt material left over from a job where I work. It's about 1/8" thick rubberized vinyl interwoven with threads like the sidewall of a tire. Smooth and shiny on top, rougher on bottom. Could be flipped as needed. Works and looks great. I even cleaned it off with lacquer thinner after cutting to size and the thinner didn't affect the shine.

Sure seems to matter who you know or where you live. I know a guy that covered his back yard with conveyer material. It is awesome.
It looks like concrete!!! Has been there ten years, looks the same as new.
Must have come off some big mine conveyer.

However, after a year of trying to find someone who actually sold it, new or used, for less than the price of a mid size German automobile, I must conclude it isn't readily available.
 

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Had to cut some more liners for a box I picked up yesterday, thought I'd revive this thread...

Sold by the foot at a locally-owned discount center (Gibson's) - it's a rubber-backed 'high-traffic' carpet, available in green or grey:

(#1 Philips Craftsman screwdriver for size reference)

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It's 26" wide (perfect for the top of these roller chests,) and has parallel 'channels' in the carpet to aid in easy trimming. At $2.49/ft, I've lined damn near all my boxes with it...

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This stuff will stay put in the drawer, and will grip tools better than anything except the Mac liner.
The look is my biggest complaint. Cutting it to fit requires more time than it should, especially if you have to cut it on two sides. Expect it to be crooked if you have to both shorten and narrow it.

LOL.

I find it ironic that you post on a tool forum that you are less than satisfied with a drawer liner because of your inability to find, buy or use the correct tool or tools to cut waffle pattern drawer liner straight and square.

:lol:

I have most you list above and love the review. :thumbup:

All will allow the tools to move in most cases short of shadowing your tools or using physical trays or racks to keep sets in place or at least together. No new news there.

As for cutting the waffle pad, I suggest a big work table, a good metal square, a piece of chalk and a cork backed long metal rule or straight edge along with a good sharp x-acto knife.

Measure twice, cut once, constantly measure coner to corner to make sure things are square and cut slowly and hold straight edge firmly to prevent mat squirm.

It's not hard once you get the method down. Much like car headliners and seat upholstery material.

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My .02 cents worth have tried numerous drawer liners the best I have found so far is Yoga mats. Yes you heard right you can get them at Menards,off e bay,and google them that is what I have in all my boxes. They come in an array of colors I have red,blue,gray orange in use now none of my tools move they stay put. One more color is available too Pink just didnt mention that one sorry.
 

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I found found EPDM rubber which is commonly used in commercial roofing works great.

New is is like $119.00 for 200 square feet. I bought a almost full roll of of Craig's list for 40.00 bucks. My box with 14 drawers I just cut a wood template and then used a razor blade to cut it to size. The stuff works great.

http://www.menards.com/main/buildin...ing/10-x-20-epdm-rubber-roofing/p-1382672.htm

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I used the solid (not weave) liner from HF and it works pretty well.....but did spend a few hours with a square/straight edge/sharp razor knife cutting to fit.
 

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The only problem I've had with the yoga mats is that my ball pien hammers stick to it.

Yes hammers do stick to them but they dont move around or leave residue on the hammer at least mine dont. And I like the colors available to line the drawers not the everyday hum drum black. I have my Matco triple bay done in orange.
 
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good review
i have a matco box; the liners that came with it are for the birds; slide like crazy unless you put something heavy on them
i have used lots of stuff, and tend towards the solid liner sold at northern; holds to the box very well, and holds the tools well too
looking at using stair runner material or something similar next
 

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Also bought the stuff mentioned in post #2 by BHH from the guy whose company makes or fulfills orders for Snap-On. It's pretty good stuff. I like it much better than the open weave. Agree that the KRA (if you meant KRA instead of KR) stuff isn't so nice. But I got what I think is KRL grade stuff when I ordered liners for a 25-30 year old KR box. It was from Jonco. I think it was for the KR637 or 667 -- forget which (though I needed it for the 537 and almost all of it fit pretty well).
 

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Can't imagine that working at all, esp. for lighter tools or anyone who's opening and closing drawers with any frequency.

My tools aren't tossed in the drawer. I keep them separated in various organizers. Also I don't tear open the drawer or slam it with regularity. Oh, and I'm cheap :)
 

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If there are any stores like TJ Maxx, Marshalls, or Ross near you, try looking for yoga mats there. They're cheap (10 bucks or so) and are not the foam sandwich type mats the OP had bad experience with. The ones I got are more akin to kitchen drawer liner, but much much thicker. One mat is easily enough to do 2 long drawers or 4 short drawers.
 

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This one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOOL-BOX-DR...317?pt=Tool_Boxes_Storage&hash=item4cfd42ce3d


This is the one that is tacky/sticky which I think makes it much easier to cut and install. Make sure tool drawer bottom is clean. Lay it in, poke it into the corner so that there is a slight mark, pull up and cut, and then lay back down. You can even have it run up the side of the drawers too.

The colored ones are cool but a different material.
 

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I tried the Ebay mat that many here raved about (too sticky for me), the HF mat ( a little better, but ehhh, not great), I think one other, and the yoga mat from yogaaccessories.com (?), and he yoga mat was the best by 10X for me. I bought the giant roll and used it all! i've had it for probably a year now, and although hammers will stick a bit, occasionally (I don't hammer daily), I haven't had any material failures.

I bought the roll of mat and then had a template cut at HD from tempered hardboard to cut from. Well worth it.
 

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I bought a big roll of fine ribbed rubber matting with the idea of using it
to line my tool boxes with. Does anyone know if there maybe any future
side effects with using this material as drawer liners..? :headscrat

It just seems perfect for the job, It won't move and stays flat. Maybe
oil and the usual multitude of workshop fluids would have a degrading
effect on the rubber over time.
 

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I'm debating what to use for liner in my new to me classic 96, also want to do another snap on box. I normally get the perforated stuff at harbor freight, don't mind it but if there's better stuff I'd like to try it. And the harbor freight stuff is 18 deep, I need 22.

At this point I'm torn between the stuff on ebay and the roll of yoga mat. People complain the ebay stuff is to sticky, how bad are we talking here? And on the other hand is the yoga mat grippy enough? What is the single drawer HF liner most like?

Does the ebay stuff get dirty fast, I picture it having stuff stuck to it quick if its that sticky.
 

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Whenever I get a new toolbox, I just use spray adhesive to stick down the stock liners and they last for years, it's very rare that I've had to replace any
 

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I found found EPDM rubber which is commonly used in commercial roofing works great.

New is is like $119.00 for 200 square feet. I bought a almost full roll of of Craig's list for 40.00 bucks. My box with 14 drawers I just cut a wood template and then used a razor blade to cut it to size. The stuff works great.

http://www.menards.com/main/buildin...ing/10-x-20-epdm-rubber-roofing/p-1382672.htm

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I bought a piece of edpm roofing rubber on this recommendation and it worked great! Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
 

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Yoga mats (after trying tons of stuff, some of it very expensive) are my solution now. Lots of colors - Menards has boxes of them on sale with a rebate this week for $2.99 after $5 rebate. They are 68"x24"x1/8" so I get several drawers out of each. Picked up 4 more to complete the rest of my cabinet drawers - going to work out to $12 for almost 20' x 24" of liner.

I've had this stuff in my tool kits for over a year now and it works as well as anything else I've tried, but WAAAAY less expensive.

BTW the fact that there is another "Chris Adams" on here is kinda freaking me out cause every time I read his comments my first thought is: "I don't remember writing that".
 

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I'll Agree with the Op on the KR liners are the worst. when i picked up mine it had original liners and they are in terrible shape. I'm thinking of picking up some liner for sears, because it is very similar to snap on's KRA liners.
 

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I was just reading through this thread.

I have a matco box that needs new liners and by far the best ones I've ever had were the ones that came stock in my Mac box.

so, the question is, you say the Mac liners from 5 years ago are also your favorite, but what about the ones they sell now? Are they the same or different than those from 5 years ago?

because the look of the stuff on their website now looks like the same **** you can buy from sears or on ebay for a hell of a lot less.

they show two kinds, tech and macsimizer
 
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