Someone is going to be MAD!!!

[wrenchr]

This is craftsman tools in a snap on case!! Close to $200.00 with 2 hours to go!! The seller listed everything correct to!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SNAP...Z150328510481QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

 

[kwhitelaw]

wow, that is deceitful. although they listed it correctly and its up to the buyer to read carefully.., still deceitful.

 

[Skyline]

I just can't believe some idiot has bid $182.50 for that. That's about $100 more than it should sell for.

 

[wrenchr]

A $15.00 case and $50.00 in tools new!! Well the prices are ballpark but damnit man!!

 

[global72]

Not enough people read eBay ads. I cannot tell you how many people bought tool boxes from me where the auction says in no less than 4 places in huge red letters LOCAL PICK UP ONLY!!!.

They buy, then email me a ship to address 1000 miles away and are mad at me for not shipping the box.

A big thing that used to happen is laptop computer boxes. So you buy a Sony laptop take the laptop out of the box. List the correct discription of what was in in the and sell the empty box. The auctions would clearly say empty box but people would bid big on them thinking they got a killer deal on a lap top or X Box - whatever. I read an article a few years ago where ebay was trying to ban this activity. It is hard to save some people from themselves.

 

[Adam McLaughlin]

That is pretty shady. My other favorite is when someone lists:

Metric Tools Deep Sockets On Snap in Rail

Which has nothing to do with Snap On, but you'll see that this type of item is listed rather quickly when you do a search for a Snap On tool...

Adam

 

[philw]

I think it would have been more upfront if he had the box separate but.....if you can't read his description then that's on you. I think he made it understandable in his description of what it was. Maybe he upgraded his Craftsman stuff to Snap-on but didn't want the Snap-on box?

The biggest thing I have an issue with is his price. The high price is the most misleading part. People see the high $$ and think it most all be snap-on

 

[Brett K]

With the stating bid of $159.00, it is clear the seller is banking on someone not reading the ad.

 

[dxdexter]

The ad is quite clear and in large letters, but rest assured the seller is banking he will get some ***** who can't or just doesn't read the description.

It sure fooled me when I quickly looked at the photo.

 

[wrenchr]

Did you bid????? lol

 

[dxdexter]

Did you bid????? lol

I may be stupid, but I'm not dumb.

Of course I bid.

 

[ImportTuner]

Some people just don't read; boy are they going to be upset when the item arrives ...

 

[Snappy]

That snap-on red really mesmerizes some people. A shady seller indeed !
I didn't check that sellers feedback but I'd be surprised if it is very high. I sell on ebay myself but I wouldn't list something that way. My 100 % feedback is important to me.
Scott

 

[paramudduck]

To add insult to injury he is charging $12.99 shipping! Starting that at 159 he should have at least done free shipping. And included a case of ky.

 

[Fedwrench]

I don't see anything dishonest going on here. The seller has 98.8 positive feedback and was scored 4.9 out of 5.0 for item description. Now, if some idiot imagines that those are Snap on tools sitting in that case when that ratchet stands out like a sore thumb and it's plain as day those aren't Snap on sockets, then they deserve to be hosed. I would agree that to be above and beyond suspicion, I would have left Snap on out of the auction title and listed the case in the description to lessen than chance of someone being blinded by the red case. Ebay just isn't as much fun as it used to be.

 

[PowderKeg]

Don't kid yourself, this jerk knows exactly what he's doing. He's got a new cased 44 pc SK set listed with a BIN of $126, yet he started this Craftsman auction at $160. Despite his "honest" description (in large hard-to-read caps), by starting at such an outrageously high amount he banked (and won) on some doofus newbee seeing Snappy red and not being able to discern Snappy from Crappy tools in the pic. He's covered his @ss with the description when the almost certain complaint comes thru.

I'd rate the seller a sleazeball for this stunt.

 

[kythri]

He's a sleaze, to be sure, but it's the buyer's responsibility to read clearly.

That's what you get for drinking Snap-On Kool-Aide, though.

 

[Tool Pants]

I also say a deceitful seller, looking to take advantage of someone not as clever.

You guys got it. Craftsman tools in a plastic Snap-On case. Are you buying the tools or the case with a starting bid of $159.99.

I don't care about his "please read before you bid" disclaimer. A clever dishonest seller.

 

[Junkman]

If I sell all my Snap-On tools in Craftsman packaging, are you going to call me a sleaze ball also? Get real. He was up front and honest in his description. If the buyers are too stupid to read the description, then they get what they deserve. The seller hasn't misrepresented anything. Not even small print that is hard to read!!!!!!!!

 

[Tool Pants]

Why would you advertise/sell Snap-On tools in Craftsman packaging. Why would you advertise/sell Craftsman tools in Snap-On packaging.

It is to deceive people. Ok, to deceive stupid people.

Then you get to work on Wall Street, banks, and AIG.

 

[Nealcrenshaw]

You got to be kidding me!!!

This is very deceitful!!!

You're right someone is going to be mad

 

[paramudduck]

The really sad part is, the person who buys this will probably think he got a great deal and be proud of it.

 

[charlie_nj]

The ad is definitely misleading to say the least.

It seems like you can paint a turd red, put the Snap-On logo on it and someone on Ebay will overpay for it.

 

[Junkman]

Do we need another law to protect ourselves from our stupidity. If people don't read the description prior to bidding, then maybe we should give them a pass on all auctions that they finally read the description after the bidding ends. What ever happened to the days when you were responsible for your own actions. I would agree with you all, if it were not so clearly spelled out in the auction as to what he was buying. No small print, or anything deceptive to lead the bidder down the path to think that he was buying anything other than what the description said. I am certain that 90% of the people here don't want the government passing more laws to protect ourselves from ourselves, but when someone else does something stupid like bidding on Craftsman tools in a Snap-On box, you all get upset.
What if it was a Snap-On rolling box full of shinny new Craftsman tools, and was described the same way......... would it still be wrong? ... Give me a break!!!!!!!!

 

[kythri]

The ad is definitely misleading to say the least.

It seems like you can paint a turd red, put the Snap-On logo on it and someone on Ebay will overpay for it.

Snap-On Inc. has been doing that for 80 years!

 

[Junkman]

The ad is definitely misleading to say the least.

It seems like you can paint a turd red, put the Snap-On logo on it and someone on Ebay will overpay for it.

Here is the ad............ please tell me what is misleading??? The seller in big letters says........PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU BID!! He mentions that "1 NEW CRAFTSMAN POLISHED RATCHET!!RATCHET DOES NOT FIT IN CASE WHEN CASE IS CLOSED!!!" Where is the deception? If you can speak, read, and understand the English language, then it is all there in easy to understand words. No double meaning, nothing deceptive the way that I see it. I bought this same set at a pawn brokers last month. I checked each socket prior to buying it to make sure that they were all Snap-On. There was one Craftsman in the box, and the pawn shop replaced it with a Snap-On from there tray of loose sockets. Were they being deceitful? No, it is my job as a buyer to know what I am buying.

PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU BID!!

UP FOR AUCTION IS A NEW SNAP-ON 1/4" DRIVE CASE WITH NEW CRAFTSMAN 1/4" TOOLS &1 STANLEY 2" EXTENION(USED)1 USED 6" CRAFTSMAN EXTENION

10 NEW SAE STANDARD

10 NEW DEEPWELL

9/16,1/2,7/16,3/8,11/32,5/16,9/32,1/4,7/32,

&3/16

10 NEW METRIC STANDARD 10 NEW DEEPWELL

14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6&5!! 1 NEW CRAFTSMAN POLISHED RATCHET!!RATCHET DOES NOT FIT IN CASE WHEN CASE IS CLOSED!!!

1 CRAFTSMAN SWIVEL!!STARTING BID $159.99

 

[kythri]

Do we need another law to protect ourselves from our stupidity. If people don't read the description prior to bidding, then maybe we should give them a pass on all auctions that they finally read the description after the bidding ends. What ever happened to the days when you were responsible for your own actions. I would agree with you all, if it were not so clearly spelled out in the auction as to what he was buying. No small print, or anything deceptive to lead the bidder down the path to think that he was buying anything other than what the description said. I am certain that 90% of the people here don't want the government passing more laws to protect ourselves from ourselves, but when someone else does something stupid like bidding on Craftsman tools in a Snap-On box, you all get upset.
What if it was a Snap-On rolling box full of shinny new Craftsman tools, and was described the same way......... would it still be wrong? ... Give me a break!!!!!!!!

Way to go to the extreme, dude. I don't think anyone here would advocate government intervention.

We've done exactly what needs to be done - outted a sleazeball who's banking on someone's confusion or excitement to make a quick buck.

Yet another seller identified that I'll add to my filter and exclude from all future searches.

And, for what it's worth, putting Craftsman tools in a Snap-On rolling box is a LOT different than putting Craftsman sockets in a Snap-On blow-molded case. Nobody is denying that the guy was honest in his description, but you can't for a second think that the guy didn't intend for the confusion the picture, title and packaging generates.

With that said, as I mentioned earlier, the buyers who are apparently failing to read the description deserve what they get in this particular case.

 

[wrenchr]

If I sell all my Snap-On tools in Craftsman packaging, are you going to call me a sleaze ball also? Get real. He was up front and honest in his description. If the buyers are too stupid to read the description, then they get what they deserve. The seller hasn't misrepresented anything. Not even small print that is hard to read!!!!!!!!

Very good point!!!!!!

 

[tatra]

seems the guy is on the up and up as junk said..............it's not like you have to make a snap decision buying on the spot........personally blo molded cases bug the **** outta me, rather have metal trays.....last longer and take up less room ........what about buying a used car under bright lights?........or the lighting they use in grocery stores............just gotta be realistic........

 

[PowderKeg]

If I sell all my Snap-On tools in Craftsman packaging, are you going to call me a sleaze ball also?

Nope, I'd call you a fool, especially if you advertised it in the same way ("Craftsman/Snap-On..."). Get real. You'd call it Snap-On Tools/Socket Set in the header, and specify the Craftsman case they were stored in only in the description. No two ways about it, this guy intentionally wrote this auction up to snare a nitwit bidder or few that couldn't/wouldn't read the description carefully. He's got the opening bid in the neighborhood of TWICE the value of those tools new from Sears (if bought in a set - there's a 48 pc 1/4" set, no case, with a thin-pro ratchet listed for $79.99). There's no defense for the buyer - he's an idiot for not carefully reading the grossly-oversized all-caps hard-to-read description, researching the value, and/or emailing for confirmation of what's actually there. But that doesn't excuse the seller for being misleading and deceptive by directing attention to the Snap-On case, which only holds the 1/4 drive tools. One of the two pics is of the top of the closed case clearly showing the Snap-On logo. Wonder where the ratchet went, since the case looks properly closed in the second pic, when the seller states it won't close with the ratchet inside....

This is a sleazeball seller and auction, not outright fraudulent since he covered his **** in the description, but certainly deceptive.

 

[Junkman]

I guess that wrenchr is also a sleaze bag for not telling the seller that this ratchet is worth more than he was selling it for? After all, the seller had no idea as to what he was selling.......... Isn't it the responsibility of the buyer to make sure that the seller isn't selling himself short?

 

[nissan_crawler]

wow, that is deceitful.

That is pretty shady.

A shady seller indeed !

I also say a deceitful seller,

It is to deceive people. Ok, to deceive stupid people.

The ad is definitely misleading to say the least.

You got to be kidding me!!!

This is very deceitful!!!

You're right someone is going to be mad

I would like to personally thank all of you for helping to further this sad nanny state that we live in.

For crying out loud, it is very very clearly spelled out in the description EXACTLY what it is.

Anybody that bids on an auction without reading a description is a retard.
Anybody that bids on a tool auction that says Snap-On/Craftsman in the title without reading to see WHAT is Snap-On, and WHAT is Craftsman, is a retard.

If somebody is that incredibly stupid, tough @#$%! He told them what they were getting.

I sold two junked out holley carbs with corroded metering blocks for $180 on ebay. They were maybe worth $40 total. It's not my fault two retards kept bidding on them.

When in the hell are we going to start holding people personally responsible for their own actions This **** makes me sick.

 

[paramudduck]

I fail to see how the Craftsman tools are "new" They are in no form of packaging.
Once removed from the distribution packaging they are used.

They may be in "like new" or "as new" condition.

I consider this auction to be a perfect example of why people need to read.

 

[wrenchr]

I guess that wrenchr is also a sleaze bag for not telling the seller that this ratchet is worth more than he was selling it for? After all, the seller had no idea as to what he was selling.......... Isn't it the responsibility of the buyer to make sure that the seller isn't selling himself short?

Junkman is making very valid points and I agree with him 100%!!!!

 

[fourfeathers]

With the new ebay/paypal rules, it is a VERY GOOD bet that the buyer could get a refund. The ebay rules penalize a seller by lowering their powerseller discount for negative feedback or low scores, so it is not worth screwing with people like that. I try to not even have tools in a pic if they don't ship, NO MATTER HOW OBVIOUS it is.

 

[Nova72]

i dont think it is decietful or misleading.

i think the seller was very upfront and honest. and i think the snap on case is MUCH MORE USEFUL than most organizing systems.

stupid buyer, smart seller.

 

[Stephenw]

Here's how that clear and honest description appears on my screen...

The large text sort of blends together and is hard to read. This is, without a doubt, clearly an ad that was intended to mislead the unwary.

 

[Diesel-Mech]

I'm going to agree with the guys saying it is not deceitful. He has the right to put whatever tools in to whatever case he wants and to set the opening bid at whatever he wants so long as he has an easy to read and accurate product description. If someone does not have the time and or the reading comprehension to fully understand that listing they have no business on eBay in the first place. If you are about to drop money on something especially that much you have to turn your brain on before clicking the bid button.

 

[Stephenw]

Here it is on my iTouch...

Also, note how he used spaces between the socket listings, but not between the description of the case and ratchet on upper portion of the description. This also points to an attempt to mislead.

 

[Bo Heck]

I see nothing wrong with this. People apparently buy tools on ebay just like they buy houses without reading their mortgage agreement. Then they will get mad, and say it was someone elses fault and they should fix it for them.