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Something New to Me...Plumbing Crossover

Bruce 993 SEA

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A while back, the faucet in the kitchen sink failed to put out any hot water.

What was funny was that if you moved the handle to the mid point you would get a half second of pretty hot water and then cold or lukewarm when moving the handle back to hot.

Hmmm...I got the faucet mfg to send a new ceramic cartridge out. No dice. Then they sent a new faucet. Still no dice.

Additionally, the outdoor faucet was kind of lukewarm...hmmmm.

This really had me scratching my head. Then I did some Google searching and up comes a thread about "crossover". It usually happens when another faucet fails. So I suspected the main bath but nothing changed when I shut off the angle stops...other than one of them failed as they always do.

Then I was talking through this with my wife and she said "the faucet quit delivering hot water when you roughed in the master bath". Kudos to her!

Duhhh...the rough in cap on the Delta valve allows crossover...hot or cold moves to what ever side has lower pressure as when you open the kitchen full on hot. The cap just plugs off the end of the valve body until you insert the valve itself.

The master bath and kitchen are on one end of the house so the effect was isolated to that part of the house.

Trimmed out the bath and all is well. Kind of a PSA...I don't want anyone else to puzzle over this. It was new to me. I bet plumbers see this often in remodel work.

Cheers!
 
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mires

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Delta shower valves actually come with a small plastic piece to plug one side internally if you opt to not install the cartridge on the rough in phase. I usually just go ahead and install the cartridge so I don't have to turn the water off again when I trim it.
 
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HoosierMark

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Had the same thing on my new house. We put all the valves in the bath tubs but the basement one. I was in no hurry to finish it so no big deal. Called my plumber a week after we moved in and told him the hot water was just not hot enough. Sure enough the rough in was creating the issue. Put a regular valve in and all was good. Makes sense that it is a supposed to be a temporary item.
 
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Bruce 993 SEA

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Ahh, I am not the only one!

I did not see a plug for inserting into one side to stop the flow while it s in the rough in state. There is a filter stuffed into one side though that is supposed to be removed.

On another install, I used the rough in valve body with stops. That does not have the issue with crossover. I bet it exists for remodel work where the rest of the house will be used while waiting to finish the shower tile etc.

Cheers!
 

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Got the same issue at the firehouse. If both hot and cold are left on in the shop sink/utility closet, the cold will backflow through the hot through out the entire station.
 
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