Outlawmws
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And at times like that (like today), I'd rather be Lucky than good! 
I Emailed about a Craftsman DP (With terrible pics that were dark and even after "enhancement" didn't show much) I found on CL a week ago. No response for two days. and when I got it (I asked questions and for better pics) it was "I can't get more pics until we get back up there on Friday, and here, call my dad, he has all the answers... Sorry about the pics, it's in a barn and it's dark in there."
Took till the next day to connect with "dad" and he was minimally better help. I got that it was bought in '48, and not a lot else. We chased around for another few days until today, when his schedule and mine finally coincided. He had been able to tell me the table seemed to be free of any divots, and later that the DP did have three pulleys! (This info got me far more interested! I was about ready to let the thing go...)
So today I go up there (20 minute drive) Meet the guy. Older guy, shuffling around (turns out he's had a stroke and has a hard time walking) and the place (In town) is a nicer older larger house in a poor section of the city, and it actually DOES have a real, if small barn behind it. Wood floors for the most part. It was his parents house, and when they died his brother move in and was also a pack rat. A few months ago his brother died and now the old "homestead" is his. I ask and verify most of what is in the Barn is for sale, as they want to clear the place out and sell it..
The DP has the usual surface rust on the bare metal parts, but seems to be in good shape anyway. It is a Craftsman "100" "Heavy Duty Type Bench model so a 15", 0-1/2" chuck, and a 4" stroke. The table does have one divot that is a half circle cut into the edge of the center hole. No biggie.
The base is a large base, and is used interchangeably with the floor model. (table top models often have smaller bases)
And best of all it has that rare third pulley set!
I tell him I'll take the DP and ask if it's OK to dig around for other things that are for sale. He says sure, almost everything in the barn is for sale, except some lights that are for the house.
First up is a Craftsman 3-1/2" swivel vise from the 50's,but is also in the 1948 catalog with the DP. I find an RCBS loading press, (No.2 Jr) without a handle, but later find the handle
then I find an angle drill press vise (I find later its a Palmgren), A morticing hold down fence for the DP, and best of all for the smaller finds, a Rotory X - Y "Milling DP vise" (but it's missing the jaws...) something I've been looking for for YEARS!
I also find, (Drum roll please...) two more DP pulley sheaves, and one is the third eccentric slow/hi speed pulley for the smaller 2" OD post drill presses!
Some random misc tools:a Cman Body hammer, Crestalloy and Herbrand dykes, 7R Vise Grips, Klien long handled needle nose, and 8 and 10" mastrecraft wrench's.
I reluctantly stop digging and ask how much for all?
He asks what his daughter quoted for the DP and I say $75 "Ill let you take it all including the drill press for $95."
I'm good with that!
Then he mentions that one of two tool boxes next to us half buried on the floor has a bunch of SO sockets and wrenches "from the 40's".
I say "I should have looked there first!" and go back to picker mode.
There are 3/4" drive sockets and extensions and a few MAC wrenches and some Craftsman socket and other miscellaneous tools. I also got a few tools out of the other box, (both are crappy Stax-on top chests with 6 drawers,3 full width and 3 together = a full width) and ask how much more for all the wrenches and sockets in the one box, plus the others.
"I haven't really thought about what I want for those.. Hmmm. I'll have to get 150 for all you had plus the box full and those others.
$55 more? I'm OK with that too!
I back the van to the barn door, pay the man, and load up! While I'm doing so another guy arrives to look at an old 57 or so Chevy one ton truck that used to have a full motor home type camper on it (no bed). The front is axle deep in the dirt. but the other prospective buyer helps me with lifting the drill press into the back of the van, and I make my getaway!.
What a day!
The DP. Sorry for the bad angle lost one pic in the process...
Motor is original and date coded 1948
The Big Craftsman "Industrial" Machinist's vise! "
The Palmgren angle vise, pulley's, and Mortice hold down fence
Rotary X/Y table, also appears to be from the same '48 catalog. 7" table, and 6" travel
Misc tools
And a teaser for the mostly) Snap-on/Mac/Craftsman tools, and I didn't even try to get a pic of the Stax-on box. I'll get pics of these tools later (It's been a crazy day...)
I Emailed about a Craftsman DP (With terrible pics that were dark and even after "enhancement" didn't show much) I found on CL a week ago. No response for two days. and when I got it (I asked questions and for better pics) it was "I can't get more pics until we get back up there on Friday, and here, call my dad, he has all the answers... Sorry about the pics, it's in a barn and it's dark in there."
Took till the next day to connect with "dad" and he was minimally better help. I got that it was bought in '48, and not a lot else. We chased around for another few days until today, when his schedule and mine finally coincided. He had been able to tell me the table seemed to be free of any divots, and later that the DP did have three pulleys! (This info got me far more interested! I was about ready to let the thing go...)
So today I go up there (20 minute drive) Meet the guy. Older guy, shuffling around (turns out he's had a stroke and has a hard time walking) and the place (In town) is a nicer older larger house in a poor section of the city, and it actually DOES have a real, if small barn behind it. Wood floors for the most part. It was his parents house, and when they died his brother move in and was also a pack rat. A few months ago his brother died and now the old "homestead" is his. I ask and verify most of what is in the Barn is for sale, as they want to clear the place out and sell it..
The DP has the usual surface rust on the bare metal parts, but seems to be in good shape anyway. It is a Craftsman "100" "Heavy Duty Type Bench model so a 15", 0-1/2" chuck, and a 4" stroke. The table does have one divot that is a half circle cut into the edge of the center hole. No biggie.
The base is a large base, and is used interchangeably with the floor model. (table top models often have smaller bases)
And best of all it has that rare third pulley set!
I tell him I'll take the DP and ask if it's OK to dig around for other things that are for sale. He says sure, almost everything in the barn is for sale, except some lights that are for the house.
First up is a Craftsman 3-1/2" swivel vise from the 50's,but is also in the 1948 catalog with the DP. I find an RCBS loading press, (No.2 Jr) without a handle, but later find the handle
then I find an angle drill press vise (I find later its a Palmgren), A morticing hold down fence for the DP, and best of all for the smaller finds, a Rotory X - Y "Milling DP vise" (but it's missing the jaws...) something I've been looking for for YEARS!I also find, (Drum roll please...) two more DP pulley sheaves, and one is the third eccentric slow/hi speed pulley for the smaller 2" OD post drill presses!
Some random misc tools:a Cman Body hammer, Crestalloy and Herbrand dykes, 7R Vise Grips, Klien long handled needle nose, and 8 and 10" mastrecraft wrench's.
I reluctantly stop digging and ask how much for all?
He asks what his daughter quoted for the DP and I say $75 "Ill let you take it all including the drill press for $95."
I'm good with that!
Then he mentions that one of two tool boxes next to us half buried on the floor has a bunch of SO sockets and wrenches "from the 40's".
I say "I should have looked there first!" and go back to picker mode.
There are 3/4" drive sockets and extensions and a few MAC wrenches and some Craftsman socket and other miscellaneous tools. I also got a few tools out of the other box, (both are crappy Stax-on top chests with 6 drawers,3 full width and 3 together = a full width) and ask how much more for all the wrenches and sockets in the one box, plus the others.
"I haven't really thought about what I want for those.. Hmmm. I'll have to get 150 for all you had plus the box full and those others.
$55 more? I'm OK with that too!
I back the van to the barn door, pay the man, and load up! While I'm doing so another guy arrives to look at an old 57 or so Chevy one ton truck that used to have a full motor home type camper on it (no bed). The front is axle deep in the dirt. but the other prospective buyer helps me with lifting the drill press into the back of the van, and I make my getaway!.
What a day!
The DP. Sorry for the bad angle lost one pic in the process...
Motor is original and date coded 1948
The Big Craftsman "Industrial" Machinist's vise! "
The Palmgren angle vise, pulley's, and Mortice hold down fence
Rotary X/Y table, also appears to be from the same '48 catalog. 7" table, and 6" travel
Misc tools
And a teaser for the mostly) Snap-on/Mac/Craftsman tools, and I didn't even try to get a pic of the Stax-on box. I'll get pics of these tools later (It's been a crazy day...)
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, BTW you **** Outlaw 
Never hear of that company. Marked USA, but seems cheap.
