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Sonic Tools....no love?

BigBoreFan

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Anyone on here use or own any Sonic Tools. I know when I first ran across them I was pretty impressed. So I ordered the free sample kit.

The pliers are NWS rebranded as Sonic. The Phillips #2 wasn't bad, but screwdriver handles are a personal thing IMO, we all like what we like. The ratchet wasn't anything special, same with the wrenches. I do like their sockets adn extensions. I'd probably even buy some but they just seem overpriced IMO.

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a mere 1,000.00dollars and 250.00 for shipping to get a $100.00 homeowners tool kit

I would have been down for the free sample kit as long as there was no stipulation that I had to post links to their overpriced stuff

j/k
 

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Nope. I bought more than a few things from Sonic when they used to have better sales. Wrench sets, 1/4 & 3/8 drive portable socket sets, specialty tools, etc. My overall opinion is that, unless you really like their foam trays, you're over paying for Taiwan made versions of German tool designs but, that's just me.
Their 45 tooth ratchets are bulky and head heavy. Their range of socket sizes isn't great. I do like Sonic's satin finish. I also like: the knurling on their chrome sockets (although their sockets closely resemble OEM tools versions), the hex shaped square drive ends on some of their extensions, a 28 piece 1/4 drive socket & bit set with a tiny 1/4 drive ratchet part#102801 (now discontinued), and that's about it off of the top of my head early in the morning.
I would much rather have access to Toptul or Tone than Sonic but, again that's just me. Tekton offers much better value and Koken offers much better quality.

I'm not in to the foam inlay sets as they always leave out something I want and eat up a lot of space but, Sonic does offer some nice sets that are insanely priced. They have a nice looking shop cabinet storage system too.
 

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I'm usually one to say that anyone should buy the tool brands and setups that make them happy and work for them. But that price is insane.
 

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Wow....if you want a portable toolbox with foam inserts go on Ebay and pick up a GMTK (military General Mechanics Tool Kit) for half and have better quality box and tools.

This seems like another similar bozo (Boxo) brand foam tool trays which go to trade shows and push their brands via social media, which try to push the form over function of the tools.
 

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They're not "no-name" in Europe.

They are not "no-name" in Europe but they are also not the high end Euro brand they pretend to be in the US via their marketing and pricing.

Their pricing in Europe is much more competitive, and in-line with the fact that they are private label largely Taiwan made tools with designs "inspired" by high end Euro brands like Stahlwille and Hazet.

I think the business to business selling of tool storage and selling to aviation mechanic school grads is where they make money at the USA office. The website pricing simply there to give the impression of higher end products that could be cross-shopped to Snap-on or Matco.

The heavy discounts offered (50%+) via 'Flash Sales' on their site and the lack of any country of origin info show these tools are no where near as expensive as they would like you to think.

That said, I have purchase some and like the tools, nothing particularly innovative but they are good quality and I suspect the boxes and cabinets are the same.
 

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Wow....if you want a portable toolbox with foam inserts go on Ebay and pick up a GMTK (military General Mechanics Tool Kit) for half and have better quality box and tools.

This seems like another similar bozo (Boxo) brand foam tool trays which go to trade shows and push their brands via social media, which try to push the form over function of the tools.


Wow, that's cool kit. Good variety of tools IMO and a nice mobile box.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Snap-o...833959&hash=item3b38fd9154:g:cxsAAOSwT4RdfLIa
 

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Where is the free sample kit? Looks like 60 bucks?
Anyone on here use or own any Sonic Tools. I know when I first ran across them I was pretty impressed. So I ordered the free sample kit.

The pliers are NWS rebranded as Sonic. The Phillips #2 wasn't bad, but screwdriver handles are a personal thing IMO, we all like what we like. The ratchet wasn't anything special, same with the wrenches. I do like their sockets adn extensions. I'd probably even buy some but they just seem overpriced IMO.

https://sonictoolsusa.com/topbox-wi...t=engager_carousel2&utm_term=Content+Engagers

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They are not "no-name" in Europe but they are also not the high end Euro brand they pretend to be in the US via their marketing and pricing.

Their pricing in Europe is much more competitive, and in-line with the fact that they are private label largely Taiwan made tools with designs "inspired" by high end Euro brands like Stahlwille and Hazet.

I think the business to business selling of tool storage and selling to aviation mechanic school grads is where they make money at the USA office. The website pricing simply there to give the impression of higher end products that could be cross-shopped to Snap-on or Matco.

The heavy discounts offered (50%+) via 'Flash Sales' on their site and the lack of any country of origin info show these tools are no where near as expensive as they would like you to think.

That said, I have purchase some and like the tools, nothing particularly innovative but they are good quality and I suspect the boxes and cabinets are the same.

The fact that they're European focused actually explains a lot to me in terms of their pricing and marketing. From what I understand it, professional mechanics in Europe are provided their tools by their employer rather than having to purchase them themselves. For a company the convenience of buying a fully loaded toolbox with organizers could be worthwhile it even if it does cost a little more. There is less administrative burden and for inventory tracking its very easy to see what needs replacing. They're also not concerned about the tools being 'nice' and 'life time' is however long the accountants say it is rather than the actual life time of the mechanic.
 
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Same kit directly from Sonic Netherlands.


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Do you know where in Europe Sonic tools are a known brand? Are they popular in the Netherlands? I've only heard of them through this forum. Cannot find much on Ebay or Amazon, are they sold direct to industry rather than through retail?
 

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I like them. Almost all of the things I’ve bought have been on sale or discounted though, making the prices a little more reasonable if not outright good deals. (I managed to only pay $100 ea for my metric and SAE wrench sets, 1/2 off my metric offsets, 30% off my 1/2” torque wrench, etc, etc...) Never had a warranty issue, but they claim it just takes an email and a photo and has a 24hr turn around time.

I see it like this: at WORST they have decent tools, so if you’re already interested in something and don’t mind the price or can get them discounted, then go for it. Can you get “equivalent” Taiwanese or US tools for equal or less money? Yup. Is Snap-On better? Definitely - and more expensive. Could you do the same work using cheap HF tools? Most likely. At the end of the day it’s your money and if you’re happy with what you got for it then who cares what the keyboard commandos say.


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What makes Snap on worth the price is the tool rep that shows up once a week or even biweekly for warranty and new products as well as demos, my guy will check any brand torque wrench and adjust (if he can), it's service you pay for.
 
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I'm into dirt bikes, Sonic was a team sponsor of a race team, Troy Lee Designs, they did a special box in conjunction with Troy Lee. It was originally $600.00, and overpriced then, now it's $1000 plus shipping.

The sample kit was free, so I ordered one.

I think Fedwrench summed it up pretty well. I do like the sockets, very similar to the OEM brand sockets. Their garage/storage system is nice, but pricey. But when you compare it to other systems, it's not that bad price wise, it has some nice features.

It's easy to get captivated by the foam trays.
 

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maybe the $1,000 covers not just the box and tools, but a lifetime of meals at the Sonic fast food place
 

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Do you know where in Europe Sonic tools are a known brand? Are they popular in the Netherlands? I've only heard of them through this forum. Cannot find much on Ebay or Amazon, are they sold direct to industry rather than through retail?



I wouldn’t say they are popular, people still prefer Gedore Hazet etc.
Sonic is still a lesser know brand although quite a few carpart stores sell them.
Pricing is good, especially when on sale.


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When I first retired and got into DIY automotive, I watched YouTube mechanic ChrisFix constantly. Chris was touting Sonic at the time (they may have been sponsoring his channel). I thought about buying a Sonic box with tools, but whoa expensive.

Around that same time I found GJ--glad I didn't pull the trigger on Sonic.
 

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Anyone on here use or own any Sonic Tools. I know when I first ran across them I was pretty impressed. So I ordered the free sample kit.

The pliers are NWS rebranded as Sonic. The Phillips #2 wasn't bad, but screwdriver handles are a personal thing IMO, we all like what we like. The ratchet wasn't anything special, same with the wrenches. I do like their sockets adn extensions. I'd probably even buy some but they just seem overpriced IMO.

https://sonictoolsusa.com/topbox-with-lid-tools-96-pcs/?fbshop=1&utm_source=facebook/instagram&utm_medium=paidsocial&utm_campaign=Facebook+DPA&utm_content=engager_carousel2&utm_term=Content+Engagers
I almost exclusively use Sonic Tools and let me tell you they're second to no one. Their tools are phenomenal and once you use them, you're hooked for life.

On that note, let me tell you why Sonic *****. Their logistics is a nightmare and their shipping is ridiculously expensive. Need a single tool? You might literally end up paying more for shipping than the actual tool costs. Half the items that are out of stock on their website aren't marked out of stock. They won't notify you either until you reach out, then they'll tell you it's a month out. Pros and cons to Sonic. They rubbed me the wrong way recently with their lack of communication. Granted, logistics is a nightmare everywhere right now, but their fault lands on them not notifying customers before purchase that an item is out of stock, or after purchase that it's going to take months to get your tools.

Regardless, once you have your tools you'll have no regrets.
 

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I haven’t ever tried Sonic tools. I only know about them from YouTube channels like ChrisFix and I think Junkyard Digs had some as well. I had actually forgotten about the brand all together. I think they should advertise more and be more readily available for people who want to see them in person like I would before buying.
 

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I know they sponsor/partner with lots of social media types.

I’ll pass. Many other COO Taiwan brands with excellent quality for exceptionally less money.
 

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Hi!

I don't remember how many times I started to compose a reply to this thread, and then just endet up deleting it again ... Let's see if I hit "Post reply" this time.

Sonic popped up on my radar quite a few years ago when they started to sponsor my favorite, automotive related, YT channel. But it still took some more years before I would get my first (and only) Sonic Equipment tool, a 1/4" ratchet. Actually a merchandising product from said YT show hosts. It's a decent tool, nothing more, nothing less. Just like others have pointed out, it's (for the most part?) rebranded tools. Positively sticking out, many of the pliers are NWS, Made in Germany.

They used to have a testing & evaluation kit for sale during those first years, included was a 3/8" ratchet, socket, NWS combination pliers and a screwdriver, IIRC. Never bothered to buy it, simply because it would have been another "kit" thrown into my toolbox, my curiosity wasn't strong enough and I already knew and have used NWS pliers anyway.

Speaking of price, and I'm only talking EUR/ German pricing, and to stick with NWS, you can actually buy the NWS Pliers for a little less from different vendors than what Sonic Equipment charges for them.

Other tools are priced quite competitively. Quality wise, judging solely from my 1/4" ratchet, it's just like all the other competitively priced tools sold under brands like "GedoreRED" (formerly known as Carolus), Würth Zebra, (...). The tools work & hold up to regular commercial/professional use.

Reaching out to Sonic Equipment they sent me a catalog which held actually no surprises. Compared to Snap-On, Stahlwille, Hazet and Gedore - it was missing quite a few speciality tools - but other than that they offer the typical full range of mechanic's hand tools. IIRC there were no machining tools for sale.

What caught my eye was their line of shop equipment, which today are actually two lines, MSS and MSS+. Both lines are, how could they not, highly competitively priced - the latter being a bit more "high-end" than the first. Speaking of prices, you can currently get a 2.6m module consisting of one large cabinet, 2 hanging cabinets, peg board, drawer unit and another cabinet unit - fitted with stainless steel worktop for 2.5k EUR. That is less than what some fairly simple Snap-On cart(s) would run for (list price).

There are quite a few options if you want to buy shop equipment here in Germany, which range from low-end (buying single cabinets with a COO somewhere in Asia), over middle ground (buying 2nd hand from industrial sales if you have the time and find something, for example) to high-end (having someone come out from one of the big European/German players in the field of shop/trade/industrial supply and do the whole planning and layout for you). And obviously quite a few options in between.

So if I imagined I was starting some type of repair/workshop and I besides wanting a clean, tidy, professional appearance (for customers who drop off their cars, or who (pre-Covid and after Covid) need to partly pass through the shop to enter the office/ checkout counter), I wanted an efficient way to store and provide to my employees (speciality) tools, materials, consumables - I would definitely be giving Sonic Equipment a closer look.

It's not uncommon when starting a business to have either an investment loan, or a founding capital loan, maybe even a small grant - so you're on a rather tight budget - and Sonic's pricing & quality (10 year warranty on shop equipment) aka "bang for the buck" is not too shabby. I know, if I was starting a business requiring shop equipment, I'd be looking into this way before making a "crazy financing/loan stunt" just to be able to get my stuff from one of the high-end big-players - and after ten years of being successful - enough time has passed for evaluation of that equipment, and either to stick with the brand, or go another route - by then it's literally written off anyway.

To me, Sonic Equipment is tools and shop equipment for commercial needs out of one hand on a budget.

One of the hosts of said YT channel sat in one of the empty drawers of a (fixed) drawer unit after receiving the equipment installed by Sonic in his shop.

All that said, if one has time and patience, you can most certainly find hot deals for used equipment and in the end have the high-end brands equipment & same appearance on a similar budget - but when starting out commercially time pressing to be productive earning cash, you seldom will have the time & patience for that.

So my opinion is, they definitely have their place.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
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The handle on that Sonic swivel head ratchet is completely identical to my Tekton ones. Only differences I can see is that is a satin finish on the metal vs Tekton is polished, and Tekton has a quick release button on the back rather than the Allen head bolt.

I'd guess they are both from the exact same supplier, and just spec'ed out with different options and branding. Is that Sonic one 72T as well?

I like my Tekton swivel head ratchets, they aren't the first ones I reach for, but I think they are decent for what they cost ($21 USD for the 1/4 or $63 USD for the set of 3). The pricing and shipping cost for Sonic to North America results in it making virtually no sense for anyone on this side of the pond to buy something like that, especially when Tekton already offers the same thing in a Taiwan COO for much cheaper. But I can see how Sonic might be a Tekton-like distributor in Europe, which would make sense for people in that area of the world. Tekton here is regarded as being very good quality and CS for a lower budget tool importer, and that appeals to a lot of people.
 

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Nope. I bought more than a few things from Sonic when they used to have better sales. Wrench sets, 1/4 & 3/8 drive portable socket sets, specialty tools, etc. My overall opinion is that, unless you really like their foam trays, you're over paying for Taiwan made versions of German tool designs but, that's just me.
Their 45 tooth ratchets are bulky and head heavy. Their range of socket sizes isn't great. I do like Sonic's satin finish. I also like: the knurling on their chrome sockets (although their sockets closely resemble OEM tools versions), the hex shaped square drive ends on some of their extensions, a 28 piece 1/4 drive socket & bit set with a tiny 1/4 drive ratchet part#102801 (now discontinued), and that's about it off of the top of my head early in the morning.
I would much rather have access to Toptul or Tone than Sonic but, again that's just me. Tekton offers much better value and Koken offers much better quality.

I'm not in to the foam inlay sets as they always leave out something I want and eat up a lot of space but, Sonic does offer some nice sets that are insanely priced. They have a nice looking shop cabinet storage system too.
That is a pretty accurate take on Sonic! I use them and love them. This thread is how I found the garage journal! I agree with you that there are indeed some higher-quality tool companies; however, you cannot beat a lifetime warranty without questions. I have broken my ratchet multiple times over the years, and they always send me one within a day or so.

The foam inlays are why I have all Sonic tools in my workshop. And the price. They may seem extremely expensive, but they are about half the cost of their equivalent from Snap-On. I bet you can fit more tools without the foam. But good lord, it looks so satisfying with the inlays!! Also, I'm unfortunate to be an a&p by career, meaning the foam inlays are required.
 
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