Above 1200 Sq/FT South Georgia 36x50x14

[wannabelikemike]

Just put a deposit down on a 36x50x14 pole barn. Took down some trees and was ready to pull the trigger and then COVID hit. Finally was able to pull the trigger today and put a deposit down for a 2022 build. I was the last one they took for the year as they have a full schedule of 41 pole barns to build for 2022. Site visit will occur after the first of the year and realistically looking like mid year 2022 for the build to start. I have scoured this forum for over 2 years looking and getting ideas and am ready to get going on this. Main purpose of the building will be to house a travel trailer and multiple vehicles as well as storage for kayaks, lawn mower, bikes, etc.

Specs thus far:

36Wx50Lx14H
5 inch concrete with deeper sections for future 2 post lift
2 - 12Wx14H roll-up doors in the front
1 - 8x8 roll-up door in the back
1 - man door on the left side
2 - windows on left side

Next step is bringing in dirt to level and grade everything to prep for the site visit. Below are pictures of the yard before and where we stand now.

Trees before taking them all down


In Process of removal





What it looks like today

 

[Chrisb62]

Shame there is such a long wait before actually getting a building started........I will be checking back.

 

[wannabelikemike]

Definitely *****, but I am sure it will be worth the wait.

 

[nickstar]

Congrats on the building, I am also in Georgia (Pike County). I did a 45x50x14 in 2019 Red Iron building. The time will go by fast. Keep us posted and good luck. Here is a shot when it was first done.

 

[wannabelikemike]

@nickstar looks great! I think you're right, by the time I get everything graded and permits out of the way, it will be here before I know it.

 

[aqr81]

Waiting is the hard part. The bld site is very nice and I look forward to following once it gets going. Good luck.

Larry

 

[Jawn]

It's a slow process for sure. I signed paperwork for mine I think right at a year ago... It got built in March, but between concrete, door, electricity, etc... I'm still working on it.

Looking forward to seeing yours come together. Curious, what builder is it?

 

[wannabelikemike]

@Jawn Armour Barns out of Statesboro, GA.

 

[wannabelikemike]

Builder coming out Monday to do a site walk, things are in motion at least!

 

[jbrentd]

Glad to hear he's coming out. We also cleared a bunch of trees to make room. What we thought was only going to be about a 3 week wait, turned in to 4 months. Looking forward to seeing it come together.

 

[wannabelikemike]

COVID delayed the site walk unfortunately. Shooting for some time next week.

 

[wannabelikemike]

After further review with the contractor, we reduced the size of the building down to 36x50x14. I edited the first post. The building will sit fairly close to the house and I wanted to make sure I had enough room to drive a vehicle in between the house and the building should I ever need to get into the back yard. I will have a pass through door on the backside, but it will only be an 8x8 and not large enough for big equipment if I ever need to remove trees or bring in some other large piece of equipment to the rear of the house or garage.

The good news is we are ready to start. Concrete guy came out and quoted the job for replacing a 22'x37' section of the current driveway that will tie in to the 1887 sq ft of concrete for the building itself. I did also up the thickness to 5 inches just to future proof it for heavier fifth wheels. Concrete is expensive!!

We will need to bring in about 10 loads of fill dirt to level out the area and prep for the foundation. Plan is for that to start beginning of next week.

I am beyond excited that the wait is finally over. I will be posting updates as they occur.

Thanks for following along!

 

[wannabelikemike]

Dirt work started this morning.

 

[wannabelikemike]

After 8 loads of dirt, they wrapped for the day and will return on Monday. Hurricane Ian is visiting us for the next few days. Plastic laid down to prevent dirt from washing away. Much more work to do before they start the concrete forms and to prepare for the footing inspection.

 

[wannabelikemike]

Things are taking shape. Dirt was compacted and leveled yesterday. Plastic and forms were also laid in preparation for concrete. Footing inspection is set for Monday afternoon.

 

[Spud McGee]

Nice. I've got my building going up right now. Its from armour metals here in Augusta, GA. I wish I could have gone as big as yours, but the zoning guys capped me at 20x30 with 14' walls. I signed up back in April 2022. Originally scheduled to go up in August, but it got pushed back to mid-September.

Did you use one of their builders or somebody else? I ask because the trusses all arrived with a twist/warp to them. The guys unloading mine put every single one of them across part of their lift and jumped up and down on the ends like a teeter-totter. It was clear that this wasn't their first time. They got them all looking very straight. They said its from the welding. When the trusses are welded, they all warp a bit from the heat.

Here's where i'm at. I did all the site prep all summer long.
On day 1, the guys came out and laid everything out and augered the holes. Then we had to stop while we waited for the inspector to check the holes.
Work day 2, they showed up with all the wood and trusses. They set the posts, assembled the trusses, and got the trusses up with a couple 2x6 running across the tops to help brace them.
Work day 3 was concrete. Its farmed out to a local concrete company. This company does a lot of work with armour, so they (supposedly) know exactly how much larger to form it up outside the posts for the metal siding to match up with the concrete.
If there's no surprises, they are expecting work day 4 to be all it takes to complete the install.

 

[wannabelikemike]

@Spud McGee, looks great, sorry to hear about the warped trusses. I did look up Armour Metals and they are a different company than the Armour Barns I am using for my build. I am not sure where they source their trusses from, but I will certainly ask them about it.

The County Inspector came out on Monday and we passed the Footing inspection so we are ready to pour. Concrete should start going down next week as long as the weather holds.

 

[wannabelikemike]

The crew showed up to pour concrete today. I am still at work, but will grab some pictures once I get home later today.

 

[wannabelikemike]

Concrete

 

[Bopbop]

Wannabelikemike and Spud, I am located between yall just outside of Savannah. I did a 30 x 60 x12 red iron building from Metal Con out of Sylvania, Ga. I priced the same basic building with 3 different pole barn builders, Carolina carports and Metal Con. The price difference was less than $3,000.00. Armour barns never got back with me on a price. mine was installed in 2017 and 2018.
Both of your projects are taking shape now and starting to look good.

 

[wannabelikemike]

@Bopbop I looked at Metal Con as well early on when I was researching everything back in 2019. Do you have your project detailed on the forum?

 

[Spud McGee]

Wannabelikemike and Spud, I am located between yall just outside of Savannah. I did a 30 x 60 x12 red iron building from Metal Con out of Sylvania, Ga. I priced the same basic building with 3 different pole barn builders, Carolina carports and Metal Con. The price difference was less than $3,000.00. Armour barns never got back with me on a price. mine was installed in 2017 and 2018.
Both of your projects are taking shape now and starting to look good.

I wasn't trying to hijack his thread, but mine's "done". I had the inspector out yesterday and he passed the slab, framing, and final inspections all at once. Took it to the county this morning and they gave me a letter of completion. I will get around to running power and insulation one of these days.

I do see there is some variation already in the building method. @wannabelikemike 's looks like the posts will be sitting on top of the slab in those metal brackets. On mine, the main posts are set 4' down in the ground with the slab poured around them.

I bet he shouldn't be too much longer till his is done. Not sure how long you have to give the concrete to cure before they build the building on top of it.

It would be interesting to compare the differences in how the guys around here build their buildings. So we'll know for next time.

 

[jcarapet]

I think the rule is 28 days though you can cut it down to 21 in some circumstances.

 

[Bopbop]

@Bopbop I looked at Metal Con as well early on when I was researching everything back in 2019. Do you have your project detailed on the forum?

I did not detail my project on the forum. I am bad about not taking pictures and posting them. I was really pleased with my install. After clearing the lot the cement man had the slab ready to pour and poured in 2 days. About 6 weeks later the building contractor showed up on schedule and had the building up in about 3.5 days. After that the electrician was the slow down but he was charging me for materials and his labor cost only. The lights in was almost half of the electrical cost. I went overboard on lights and electrical.
Now I am ready to add on to it because it and the second building is fulling up. It is nice to have 11 acres.
Your building will go up quick now. I know a couple of people who used the Statesboro contractor and was pleased.

 

[Bopbop]

I wasn't trying to hijack his thread, but mine's "done". I had the inspector out yesterday and he passed the slab, framing, and final inspections all at once. Took it to the county this morning and they gave me a letter of completion. I will get around to running power and insulation one of these days.

I do see there is some variation already in the building method. @wannabelikemike 's looks like the posts will be sitting on top of the slab in those metal brackets. On mine, the main posts are set 4' down in the ground with the slab poured around them.

I bet he shouldn't be too much longer till his is done. Not sure how long you have to give the concrete to cure before they build the building on top of it.

It would be interesting to compare the differences in how the guys around here build their buildings. So we'll know for next time.

I understand about high jacking the tread. Same here.
I have seen pole barns installed with the post in the ground and with the preset brackets. Different contractors and different methods. Both work well. If you are like me even after the electrical and insulation you will still be working on the garage.

 

[wannabelikemike]

@Spud McGee I too was curious about the posts and had seen it done both ways. When doing my research before hand I stumbled across the RR Buildings YouTube channel. Armour Barns uses a lot of the same methods as RR Buildings does. One thing I was seeing a lot of builders do was pouring the piers and setting the wet set brackets like I have, but they would just pour the piers and set the brackets, erect the building, and then come back to pour the concrete for the floor. In my case, they poured everything at the same time and then set the brackets. It is very interesting to watch the differences in how all of our buildings are erected. Builder said he should be back out in about 21 days or so to get everything thrown together.

One other question for you two guys since we are all down here in South Georgia weather. Did you wet your concrete down every day after it was poured? I have seen people say to wet it 5-10 times a day and others say not to wet it if the temperature is not above 50 degrees. It has been dropping into the 40's every night since it was poured and I have been hesitant to wet it at all. The company who poured the concrete said it did not matter and that I could just leave it alone.

 

[Spud McGee]

One other question for you two guys since we are all down here in South Georgia weather. Did you wet your concrete down every day after it was poured? I have seen people say to wet it 5-10 times a day and others say not to wet it if the temperature is not above 50 degrees. It has been dropping into the 40's every night since it was poured and I have been hesitant to wet it at all. The company who poured the concrete said it did not matter and that I could just leave it alone.

Nope. I didn't.

Initially my building was scheduled to go up in August while we were still getting 100 degree days. I was worried about the concrete drying out too fast and having a brand new slab crack on me. Then delays happened and it pushed my building back to sept and then into october and I didn't complain one bit. All the dirt and concrete guys around here I've talked to said you get a better result if its poured in this cooler weather.

After they poured it and they were leaving, I asked the guy if I needed to do anything. He said nope, dont do anything. First it'll look good. Then it'll look bad. Then it'll look good. And then It'll look bad. And it goes back and forth like that the first week while its curing. Thats a part of the process, so dont be alarmed and just let it do its thing. He said it would be cured enough to walk on and even to put the rest of my building up after 2 days, dont put any heavy machinery or drive on it for 25 days.

 

[wannabelikemike]

Cool, I am perfectly fine leaving it alone. Thanks for the feedback!

 

[Bopbop]

Mike,
I did not wet mine either. Mine was done in the spring so the heat was not an issue. All in all my slab looks really good. I have a couple of hair line surface cracks but they are no issue. My old shop which I built in the early 80's did the same thing (hair line cracks) but with over 30 years of hard use there was never a problem.

 

[wannabelikemike]

Bopbop, thanks for the additional feedback!

 

[wannabelikemike]

Crew showed up at 7am this morning and got after it. I grabbed a still from my security camera. I will upload a few more shots once I get home if there is enough light outside. Crazy how fast these things take shape.

 

[IRQVET]

What was the ballpark cost of this build? Sorry if that has already been discussed. I’m near Tallahassee and I just got quotes and I’m beyond sticker shocked in 2022.

 

[wannabelikemike]

It was too dark by the time I got home last night, hoping to snag some more progress pictures today.

@IRQVET unfortunately not good news. I am kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on this in 2019 when I was quoted about $70,000 all in.

I will be around $95,000 for land prep, 1887 sq ft concrete slab, 22'x37' concrete driveway apron, building shell, (2) windows, (1) man door, (1) 8x8 roll up door, and (2) 14Hx12W roll up doors.

I will still have to run electrical as well.

 

[Cdubu52]

Looking great. Congrats on the progress. I think all of us that have recently built a shop are in the same boat. We probably all started getting quotes and doing our research pre-Covid and have all had to bite the bullet and pay 15-20% more than our original quotes.

 

[Bopbop]

It was too dark by the time I got home last night, hoping to snag some more progress pictures today.

@IRQVET unfortunately not good news. I am kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on this in 2019 when I was quoted about $70,000 all in.

I will be around $95,000 for land prep, 1887 sq ft concrete slab, 22'x37' concrete driveway apron, building shell, (20 windows, (1) man door, (1) 8x8 roll up door, and (2) 14Hx12W roll up doors.

I will still have to run electrical as well.

Prices have gone threw the roof in the last few years. My all steel 30 x 60 x 12 with site prep, concrete, insulation, 3 12 x 10 doors,1 man door, 2 windows interior meals panels to 12 foot, 200 amp electrical with a 400 amp upgrade to the house, 24 high bay lights, compressed air piping system, a 32 x 35 slab at the existing pole barn was less than 70,000 5 years ago.
Just to add the building is starting to take shape.

 

[wannabelikemike]

I really hate this time change as it is too dark when I get home to see any progress. I snapped these last night with what little light was left. I will get some good daylight pictures this weekend.

 

[wannabelikemike]

So between leaving town last week for Thanksgiving vacation and then traveling for work this week, I have been a little busy. The inspector signed off on the final building inspection yesterday day so we are good to go now.

Here are a few pictures of the completed exterior. I need to get some interior shots and will post those shortly. Next up is electrical and then slowly finishing out the inside as I go. I also need to rent a little tractor to help with the dirt around the side and back of the building as it is still a mess. At least the camper and all my vehicles have a roof over them now!