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Spa repair kicked my **** this weekend

HoosierBuddy

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Back in 2005, I put together a detailed drawing of my garage addition plan so I could sell the idea to my wife. Basically once I pointed out the deck that we would add to the house at the same time, and the hot tub we would have on the deck, she was "all in" on the whole addition.

So the spa I ended up buying (a 2-pump Jacuzzi rebrand sold though Sam's Club) ended up rolled into the project....and up until last week I've been able to keep it going with very little work. Last week I went out to turn it up a little so we could use it and found the temperature had dropped and Pump 1 (which pumps through the heater) was no longer working. So, instead of enjoying the spa, I ended up getting some tools, getting into it enough to determine the problem was the #1 pump motor, and draining the tub to keep it from freezing.

By Saturday, I had a brand pump assembly bought and started tearing into the project. Of course I had to disassemble most everything to get to the bad pump, get it out, get the new one in, and get the plumbing reconnected. Then I had to reassemble everything that was in the way and refill the spa to try it out.

Filled it with water and checked for leaks. One leak on a loose fitting at the heater. Easy job to tighten that up. Once it all looked good I kicked on the power. Pump 1 fired up. The heater came on. All looked great until I reached up and turned on pump #2. Once pump 2 came on it started leaking badly at the seal between the pump halves. Recall this was NOT the pump I just replaced. This is the other one that I thought was fine.

So, I drained 300 gallons and started taking it all apart again. Luckily pump 2 is in front, so I didn't have to take quite as much apart the second time. I got it out and noticed a lot of rust on 2 of the pump housing bolts. Looks like it had been leaking a little for a long time, and likely got much worse because I had to wrestle it out and back into place to have room to R&R pump 1. I checked the old wet end from the pump assembly I had just removed and it is visually identical, so I swapped the old wet end from pump 1 that had the bad motor to the old pump 2 assembly, that had the leaking pump, and then reinstalled that in the spa.

By this point, the temperature on the deck was in the high 20's and it was snowing on me and the sun was starting to go down. I'd been working on it all day. So, I packed it in. We're supposed to get back into the mid 40's later this week. I'll refill the tub and try it again.

I talked to a buddy that used to work at a Spa company Sunday at church and told him my problems. He laughed and said, "with a 16 year old Spa, I would have told you to just go buy a new one." He might be right. So far I've got about $700 in this repair and the spa isn't running yet. I could buy a similar unit for maybe 6K. I mean, I think I'll get it going again....but at some point I'm just throwing money at a 16 year old "appliance" that may end up having a lot more problems.
 
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CoogarXR

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Water in my town is ****, and it ruins everything it passes through (even the people- I get wicked headaches if I drink it). When I moved here, I installed a hot tub. In the two seasons I had it, I went through 3 heaters, two pumps, and two control panels. I said I would never own one again.
 

firebirdparts

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Mine is over 30 years old but just keeps plugging along. I procrastinate. The rear pump bearing went bad [I mean noisy] and I ignored it for years. Just took a few minutes to fix, but it’s pretty hard to get everything sealed up afterward. The original heater went out just this year. I just bought an element, but the old one sure didn’t want to let go.
 
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no704

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If this is plastic plumbing? Hook up your shop vac to the system and pull a vacuum on it, apply glue to the outside of the pipes and it will get sucked in.
 

Shiftless

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Paid someone to haul the one here to the dump. It worked just fine.
Because of tight access, the company I asked to haul out my 20 y.o. spa wanted $400 and still would have trampled a lot of plants.
I disconnected the wiring, attacked it with my sawzall and in less than half an hour it was in small enough pieces to wheelbarrow out to the small moving truck I rented to haul it to the dump. About $100 for everything including dump fees, gas, and mileage. Took about 3 hours and no landscape damage.
 

fourjeepin

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My house came with an indoor one. I spent about $700 getting it working then we used it maybe 4 times the first year. A couple of times the next year. Last year I never turned it on and this year it went to the dump. The controls and pumps were all sold.
 
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couch67

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I bought a used one from a reburb/reseller just over a year ago. Its 10 years old but the acrylic looks brand new. I had a leak when first filling it up, the repair guy said that most leaks occur after a move.

I had another leak in the summer that I fixed, it was pretty involved as it was on one of the main 2" lines and I had to go replace 4 or 5 takeoffs before I could get to an area where I could plumb in new fittings. I was lucky they were relatively accessible.
 

ronr80

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we had one for about 10 yrs , only used in the winter, and every fall when it was time to get it going , there was always an issue , leaks , heater, jets , so finally got rid of the POS .
 

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My house came with an indoor one. I spent about $700 getting it working then we used it maybe 4 times the first year. A couple of times the next year. Last year I never turned it on and this year it went to the dump. The controls and pumps were all sold.
A guy I worked with just had to have a spa. He talked to me about it and I wouldn't mind one, but I don't want one bad enough to pay for the electricity, and repairs. Anyway he spent a few $$ and bought a new one and got it all hooked up. Used it a lot the first year, he said every week maybe two three times and raved how great it was. He loved sitting out on his deck in the North Dakota winters with light snow in his toasty warm tub sipping on some adult beverage. Second year I could tell the "new" had worn off some. I want to say he had it 4 or 5 years and one day he asked me if I wanted to buy his spa. I didn't but while working we talked about it. He said in the last year they had used it a couple times so it was a big expensive tub of heated water that rarely got used.

He tried to sell it for a few months and got nothing but dreamers and tire kickers and finally loaded up up on a trailer and hauled it to the dump! He offered it to me for free before he tossed it, but I wasn't born yesterday! He was pretty quiet about it bit he told me once he figured it was about $50-$60 per use, once he figured the cost of the spa and the electrical consumption.
 
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HoosierBuddy

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Good news. I got the spa project buttoned up yesterday. It's full of hot water and we even got in it last night.

So....all in the new pump assembly and required motor bracket, hardware, was $600-$700.

Many of you make excellent points. A spa only make sense to own if you actually use it. For the 16 years we've owned this one, we use it regularly. If I wouldn't have been able to fix it, I'd have been looking at getting a new one.

They are expensive to own though. It's not just the purchase price. As others have pointed out the power use is the second largest electricity cost in my home, after the AC. The spa companies say 10 to 20 per month...but I think that's low by at least half. I'd guestimate more like $30 to $40 per month average with the winter being higher than that. Also, the chemicals cost some money...and if you can't repair it yourself, maintenance bills could be very high.

My issue in rural southern Indiana is I don't even know who I'd call to work on a spa. There might be someone within 50 miles that fixes spas, if I'm lucky....but figuring out who that guy is, getting in touch with him, and actually getting him to show up TWICE (once to diagnose, once to install replacement parts) would be a heavy lift. I guess I'm saying...where I live, if I couldn't handle maintenance myself, I'd probably have to rethink owning a spa.
 

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Good news. I got the spa project buttoned up yesterday. It's full of hot water and we even got in it last night.

So....all in the new pump assembly and required motor bracket, hardware, was $600-$700.

Many of you make excellent points. A spa only make sense to own if you actually use it. For the 16 years we've owned this one, we use it regularly. If I wouldn't have been able to fix it, I'd have been looking at getting a new one.

They are expensive to own though. It's not just the purchase price. As others have pointed out the power use is the second largest electricity cost in my home, after the AC. The spa companies say 10 to 20 per month...but I think that's low by at least half. I'd guestimate more like $30 to $40 per month average with the winter being higher than that. Also, the chemicals cost some money...and if you can't repair it yourself, maintenance bills could be very high.

My issue in rural southern Indiana is I don't even know who I'd call to work on a spa. There might be someone within 50 miles that fixes spas, if I'm lucky....but figuring out who that guy is, getting in touch with him, and actually getting him to show up TWICE (once to diagnose, once to install replacement parts) would be a heavy lift. I guess I'm saying...where I live, if I couldn't handle maintenance myself, I'd probably have to rethink owning a spa.
If your heater dies - I might have a replacement
I made an impulse purchase of a box full of spa heaters at an estate sale - they’ve been sitting in the same box for 5 years !
 

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fourjeepin

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A guy I worked with just had to have a spa. He talked to me about it and I wouldn't mind one, but I don't want one bad enough to pay for the electricity, and repairs. Anyway he spent a few $$ and bought a new one and got it all hooked up. Used it a lot the first year, he said every week maybe two three times and raved how great it was. He loved sitting out on his deck in the North Dakota winters with light snow in his toasty warm tub sipping on some adult beverage. Second year I could tell the "new" had worn off some. I want to say he had it 4 or 5 years and one day he asked me if I wanted to buy his spa. I didn't but while working we talked about it. He said in the last year they had used it a couple times so it was a big expensive tub of heated water that rarely got used.

He tried to sell it for a few months and got nothing but dreamers and tire kickers and finally loaded up up on a trailer and hauled it to the dump! He offered it to me for free before he tossed it, but I wasn't born yesterday! He was pretty quiet about it bit he told me once he figured it was about $50-$60 per use, once he figured the cost of the spa and the electrical consumption.
My experience has been that a used hot tub is nearly worthless. if you are lucky, you will find someone to haul it away for free. BUT the components are worth something. I sold the pump, blower, heater, filter, and gfci breaker from mine. About $750 total. It helped that I was selling during COVID shortages
 
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