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afwrench

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Hate to sound stupid but I am having a senior momment and cant remember the right name. I am looking for sets ,standard and metric, of the sockets that have 4 or mabye 6 tangs or lugs on them that engage the cut outs in the nut . They look like the top of a turret on a castle . Wanted to take a steering wheel off the other day and it was secured by one of these .Any help in my search is most appreciated. Regards Mike
 
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afwrench

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The fastener would be female and the socket male . Much like those very large sockets used to take the hubs off 4wheel drive trucks.
 

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Can you post a picture of the nut in question ?

I'm guessing its a Tripple square but that has 12 points, a Torx or most likely just a plain Allen/Hex nut.
 

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E-something. Its like the oposite of a trox bit? Anyway they sell them at autozone. E-10 kinda like T-10 only oposite. And if it is a castle nut, then you just use a regular wrench.
 

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Yes......the "E" stands for external torx.........more like infernal torx.......LOL.
 

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Thumper said:
Yes......the "E" stands for external torx.........more like infernal torx.......LOL.

your not kidding, They break SO easily... complate pain in the *** to work with. The only reason they use "torx" is because they figured out its one of the easiest things for a machine to use on something like an assembly line... dont know the exact specifications, but they def. dont handle torque very well
 

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Are you perhaps talking about a spanner socket? Nuts that fit on some older ball joint shims were called "castle nuts" used spanner sockets to remove.
 

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GearHead_1 said:
Are you perhaps talking about a spanner socket? Nuts that fit on some older ball joint shims were called "castle nuts" used spanner sockets to remove.


Isnt a castle nut just a nut for a cotter pin? :headscrat I dont know what the original poster is talkin about here
 

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Isnt a castle nut just a nut for a cotter pin? :headscrat I dont know what the original poster is talkin about here

The shims that I'm refering to fit below the surface of the steering knuckle and won't allow an external socket. Some strut nuts (top) used the same type of socket or spanner wrench. I was just using this as a for instance. They used a special socket that looks like a turret on a tower. Just trying think of something that matches his description. 4 wheel drive locknut (round nut with dimples) sockets are also sometimes referred to as spanner sockets.

Maybe a spline socket?
 
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afwrench said:
Yes , This is what the socket would look like . The nut/ fastener is on a vintage Ferrari . They use these nuts in a few spots. Some guys have ground old sockets to fit but I would like a set if possible.Thanks to all, Mike

You want a set of those??? Ain't gonna happen. (1), i am not aware that these may be sold in sets. (2), THese sockets are quite expensive. (3) Even snap-on may not have a socket to fit a VINTAGE Ferrari.

You may indeed have to grind one down. Or better yet, call up your Ferrari dealership to see if they may order you one.
 

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This is the socket I was describing several posts earlier (spanner socket). I suspect you are looking for one of these significatnly smaller that the one pictured (believe it's 4X4 lock nut size. I've never bought these in a set but have several that are either KD or Thexton manufacture. It's been a lllloooonnnngggg time and I can't remember for sure. If fact they may be OTC.

Here's a set that may have what you need but I think it is unlikely that the average guy would use all of these sockets.

http://www.otctools.com/frames-newcatalog.php3

It won't take you directly to the picture but if you look under Automotive Speciality Tools and then look at the deluxe radio/antenna service kit you'll see it. #4711
 
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afwrench

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Thank you gearhead. These are indeed the type I am looking for . These ones dont look as if they would hold up under a great amount of torque but I may contact them for more info . Thanks again .Mike
 

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Those are some interesting socket indeed. So, afwrench, how did you come to find yourself wrenching on vintage Ferraris, if you don't mind me asking? That's definitely something I'd like to do in my lifetime :bowdown:
 
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Eschoendorff,I have a number of old cars, one of which is a 1971Ferrari 365gtc4. It has a v12 with 6 side draft carbs and makes a fabulous sound. I used to pull wrenches for a living but that started before most of the guys on this board were born I suspect. [ afwrench ]= Air Force mechanic. Now it is a hobby for me .I also enjoy collecting tools . I especially like specialty tools. Even if I rarely use them it is a genuine pleasure for me to use that unique socket or wrench when called for . You know " right tool for the right job " . My experience is with older stuff. points ,carbs ,etc . If I can be of service to the members here let me know. I am a bit of a dinosoaur when it comes to computers but Ill see if I can get my kids to help me post pictures of my cars and garages some day. Regards to all Mike
 

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QUOTE=afwrench]My experience is with older stuff. points ,carbs ,etc [/QUOTE]

Well then when Elroy says: Points wide, plugs narrow you know what I'm talking about

afwrench said:
I used to pull wrenches for a living but that started before most of the guys on this board were born I suspect.

Elroy says don't bet on it. I also have an "Old car" as well. A genuine 69 1/2 Boss 302. Built April 21, Elroy has been in the registry from day 1:

http://www.boss302.com

The BOSS makes a fabulous sound as well with 1 7/8" primaries and a 300 degree Crower. I offer my services as well but it is going to be "tuned" towards real muscle cars. But to each is own because Elroy is sure that Ferrari is **** in its own right.
 

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afwrench said:
Eschoendorff,I have a number of old cars, one of which is a 1971Ferrari 365gtc4. It has a v12 with 6 side draft carbs and makes a fabulous sound. I used to pull wrenches for a living but that started before most of the guys on this board were born I suspect. [ afwrench ]= Air Force mechanic. Now it is a hobby for me .I also enjoy collecting tools . I especially like specialty tools. Even if I rarely use them it is a genuine pleasure for me to use that unique socket or wrench when called for . You know " right tool for the right job " . My experience is with older stuff. points ,carbs ,etc . If I can be of service to the members here let me know. I am a bit of a dinosoaur when it comes to computers but Ill see if I can get my kids to help me post pictures of my cars and garages some day. Regards to all Mike
Cool! Please don't take this the wrong way, but I think that I've just decided what I want to be when I grow up! :lol: I'm 30 and a school music teacher, but for my next career, I think I'd like to do what you are doing! :drool:
 
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The cars that I now own have some sentimental or historical value to me. I am working on a modified 66 Chevelle,first car I ever owned. I have a 76 Triumph tr6,first car I took my wife out on a date in,that sort of thing. I also have a 68 porsche 912,a 68 Buick Lesabre convertible,a 99 Corvette, aFerrari365gtc4 as I mentioned ,a 47 Packard , and a ridgid framed Harley Sovelhead. As you can see my interests are varied,I love all things mechanical.It is fun to work on these different rigs and learn the variations on the theme. Regards to all , Mike
 

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afwrench said:
The cars that I now own have some sentimental or historical value to me. I am working on a modified 66 Chevelle,first car I ever owned. I have a 76 Triumph tr6,first car I took my wife out on a date in,that sort of thing. I also have a 68 porsche 912,a 68 Buick Lesabre convertible,a 99 Corvette, aFerrari365gtc4 as I mentioned ,a 47 Packard , and a ridgid framed Harley Sovelhead. As you can see my interests are varied,I love all things mechanical.It is fun to work on these different rigs and learn the variations on the theme. Regards to all , Mike


Corvette man, eh? When I got my masters degree, my wife bought me a 93 (C4) coupe. I make the payments, but it's the thought that counts, right??? :lol:
 
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