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Zrxrunner

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Patent 30572...you guessed it...a saw set!! Lol. Seems like everyone back in the day had some little difference to make their saw set better than the other!! Lol
 
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four.cycle

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30572 is not the patent number on that thing.
That wrong number stamped on there had me going for the better part of a day. That's the trademark registration number.

The actual patent number on that model is 532175

Morrill / Chas. Morrill, 273 Broadway, New York, NY / saw set, bench stop / patent 224789 Feb 24 1880 & 235374 Dec 14 1880 & 457363 Aug 11 1891 & 532175 Jan 8 1895 Charles Morrill & TM 30572 reg Sep 21 1897 first use Feb 24 1880 / https://www.datamp.org/patents/search/xrefPerson.php?id=7038 / http://members.acmenet.net/~con12a/saw set website/plier2.htm / * some units erroneously stamped with trademark registration number 30572 * /
 
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Mike'smeatshop

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30572 is not the patent number on that thing.
That wrong number stamped on there had me going for the better part of a day. That's the trademark registration number.

The actual patent number on that model is 532175

Morrill / Chas. Morrill, 273 Broadway, New York, NY / saw set, bench stop / patent 224789 Feb 24 1880 & 235374 Dec 14 1880 & 457363 Aug 11 1891 & 532175 Jan 8 1895 Charles Morrill & TM 30572 reg Sep 21 1897 first use Feb 24 1880 / https://www.datamp.org/patents/search/xrefPerson.php?id=7038 / http://members.acmenet.net/~con12a/saw set website/plier2.htm / * some units erroneously stamped with trademark registration number 30572 * /
So that was a mess up with the die maker? Because it says Patent no. 30572? I really could not read mine until I posted here. Thanks 4-cy.
 

four.cycle

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^ It is, as stated by the site administrator of datamp.org, "an amateur mistake", and is all too common on hand tools.
Recently three of us burned two days of our time trying to figure out who made what turned out to be an Australian-made hacksaw.
The unit had a half dozen "patent" numbers boldly molded into the handle, only one of which was a real patent number.

SRSLY?
Yeah... for real... like they just made up a bunch of numbers and slapped 'em on that handle.

In the case of the Morrill saw set, it's just a dumb error. That's the Trademark Registration Number (attached below.)

If you download my list, open it in Windows Notepad, click "Edit" at top left, click "Find" and search for "erroneous" you will see that is an all-too common (and quite maddening) occurrence.
 

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Ricky Joe

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^ It is, as stated by the site administrator of datamp.org, "an amateur mistake", and is all too common on hand tools.
Recently three of us burned two days of our time trying to figure out who made what turned out to be an Australian-made hacksaw.
The unit had a half dozen "patent" numbers boldly molded into the handle, only one of which was a real patent number.

SRSLY?
Yeah... for real... like they just made up a bunch of numbers and slapped 'em on that handle.

In the case of the Morrill saw set, it's just a dumb error. That's the Trademark Registration Number (attached below.)

If you download my list, open it in Windows Notepad, click "Edit" at top left, click "Find" and search for "erroneous" you will see that is an all-too common (and quite maddening) occurrence.
I was told once years ago that when Snap-on started out they would claim patents that didn’t exist in order to stave off competition. I don’t know how true that is, but the source was fairly knowledgeable.
 
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