spin wrench poll

[sk farmer]

Take it easy guys. Its easy to bash someones design/ideas, its much harder to actually come up with them much less present them to the public.

Most you have never posted a single thing you have worked on.

Keep the insults to yourselves, I am sure they welcome constructive feedback.

really? guys show up on a tool site asking for money with a product that is unproven, poorly thought out and not ready for production?


your answer is that most of us have never posted something we have worked on. what the hell does that have to do with their poor product.

good product=good feedback

poor product =poor feedback

the stats of this poll pretty clearly suggest this is a product that the vast majority neither wants or thinks will work but i guess that is our fault, not theirs. most people are not insulting either, just questioning the claims of "stress free" wrench. a pretty big claim to make with nothing to back it up.

 

[mopar01]

I you tubed it to see what it was. Man, I couldnt see using that ever. Pretty much have to be a perfect qorld for that ever to work and be useful.

 

[TheSpinWrench]

Take it easy guys. Its easy to bash someones design/ideas, its much harder to actually come up with them much less present them to the public.

Most you have never posted a single thing you have worked on.

Keep the insults to yourselves, I am sure they welcome constructive feedback.

we have and thank you. most dont understand what a "prototype" is. We are machining it as we speak and we altered the design to make it break and tighten bolts as well. We took the "constructive criticism" and implemented a plan of action. With all the negative feedback like "this *****, it will never work" we swept under the rug. It gets very trying communicating with closed minded folk. Our website will be launched next week and our prototype will be back from the machinist in two weeks then we will re do the poll.

 

[sk farmer]

we have and thank you. most dont understand what a "prototype" is. We are machining it as we speak and we altered the design to make it break and tighten bolts as well. We took the "constructive criticism" and implemented a plan of action. With all the negative feedback like "this *****, it will never work" we swept under the rug. It gets very trying communicating with closed minded folk. Our website will be launched next week and our prototype will be back from the machinist in two weeks then we will re do the poll.

i call bs. say what you want but you had a kickstarter saying it is the "world's most efficient tool", "the holy grail" and "revolutionary". you also claim it will "be in every toolbox", the "demand is so large" and "production is ready to go". don't take my words for it. go watch your video. 2 days ago you had it all figured out and now you are back to the drawing board. sheesh

i guess we are nothing but a bunch of knucklehead idiots here. take a lesson from the hextension guys on how to design a functioning tool and not make such outlandish claims when you don't even have a working product. i predict this will never be more than a christmas or father's day gimmick and that in itself is a stretch.

good luck, you need it because if 97% of the biggest tool junkies in the world think it is a joke, you have a problem

 

[notlob]

It gets very trying communicating with closed minded folk.

This seems extremely unlikely, given that on Kickstarter you claim that you "ran many business's (sic) and can honestly sell milk to a cow"

I guess we must all be dumber than cows for not warmly embracing your "holy grail of hand tools."

 

[Shiftless]

we have and thank you. most dont understand what a "prototype" is. We are machining it as we speak and we altered the design to make it break and tighten bolts as well. We took the "constructive criticism" and implemented a plan of action. With all the negative feedback like "this *****, it will never work" we swept under the rug. It gets very trying communicating with closed minded folk. Our website will be launched next week and our prototype will be back from the machinist in two weeks then we will re do the poll.

We are waiting with bated breath for the new and improved version...

Do you have a target maximum applied torque figure? A serious tool for busting loose tight fasteners has to develop more than one or two foot pounds. A half inch socket with a one inch diameter spool on it has a radius of just 1/2 inch. So a guy pulling on a string with a force of a hundred pounds (no guy would pull that hard...string would dig into his fingers) would only exert a torque of 50 inch pounds. That ain't gonna cut it busting loose tight nuts or even running nuts out over dirty/corroded threads.

IMHO, unless you figure out some torque multiplying mechanism that doesn't take up any extra space and is easy/cheap to manufacture, your future with this devise is doubtful at best.

 

[sk farmer]

you know people are watching when the fun tags show up.

 

[TheSpinWrench]

We are waiting with bated breath for the new and improved version...

Do you have a target maximum applied torque figure? A serious tool for busting loose tight fasteners has to develop more than one or two foot pounds. A half inch socket with a one inch diameter spool on it has a radius of just 1/2 inch. So a guy pulling on a string with a force of a hundred pounds (no guy would pull that hard...string would dig into his fingers) would only exert a torque of 50 inch pounds. That ain't gonna cut it busting loose tight nuts or even running nuts out over dirty/corroded threads.

IMHO, unless you figure out some torque multiplying mechanism that doesn't take up any extra space and is easy/cheap to manufacture, your future with this devise is doubtful at best.

our new verison is only a quarter inch wider and can break a nut and bolt as well as fasten it to what ever torque you would like. We got rid of the extension wand and what the public will receive will be a socket set to attach to ratchet or wrench. I dont quite understand the out pour of rants on the website vs constructive input. Our goal is to make a tool that will take the stress out of "SOME" situations. yes i agree we jumped the gun but the kickstarter to go from proto type to finished product. it was nothing more than an idea, now we are confident our new design will get a better response. this can be used in many situations but you don't have to use it when you can use a normal socket or wrench. it is designed for very limited access nothing more and nothing less. for example the scenario is assembling a play set. there is a tube where the swings are attached to the pole by a bolt and nut. a normal wrench can not access the nut but the spin wrench can. these are the scenarios that we designed it for

 

[TheSpinWrench]

This seems extremely unlikely, given that on Kickstarter you claim that you "ran many business's (sic) and can honestly sell milk to a cow"

I guess we must all be dumber than cows for not warmly embracing your "holy grail of hand tools."

i never said you were dumb

 

[sk farmer]

our new verison is only a quarter inch wider and can break a nut and bolt as well as fasten it to what ever torque you would like. We got rid of the extension wand and what the public will receive will be a socket set to attach to ratchet or wrench. I dont quite understand the out pour of rants on the website vs constructive input. Our goal is to make a tool that will take the stress out of "SOME" situations. yes i agree we jumped the gun but the kickstarter to go from proto type to finished product. it was nothing more than an idea, now we are confident our new design will get a better response. this can be used in many situations but you don't have to use it when you can use a normal socket or wrench. it is designed for very limited access nothing more and nothing less. for example the scenario is assembling a play set. there is a tube where the swings are attached to the pole by a bolt and nut. a normal wrench can not access the nut but the spin wrench can. these are the scenarios that we designed it for

wider= fail. it was already too wide

now it will remove or install at whatever torque you want, before it could only develop 8 lb-ft

wow the holy grail of tools is now just going to take the "stress" out of some situations.

all of this in just 24 hours

i am sure that demanding tool users who are installing swings on playsets are already lined up.

you really have no clue.

ps. if you changed it that much your patent was a waste of time. matter of fact you may be infringing on someone else's patent by now.

 

[Ruger_556]

i never said you were dumb

There are lots of assholes on the this forum that declare any tool they don't like to be ****, not going to point any fingers but it's pretty obvious who they are. You're not special, they raked SK over the coals for making a ratcheting wrench that doesn't suit their cosmetic tastes.

 

[TheSpinWrench]

i call bs. say what you want but you had a kickstarter saying it is the "world's most efficient tool", "the holy grail" and "revolutionary". you also claim it will "be in every toolbox", the "demand is so large" and "production is ready to go". don't take my words for it. go watch your video. 2 days ago you had it all figured out and now you are back to the drawing board. sheesh

i guess we are nothing but a bunch of knucklehead idiots here. take a lesson from the hextension guys on how to design a functioning tool and not make such outlandish claims when you don't even have a working product. i predict this will never be more than a christmas or father's day gimmick and that in itself is a stretch.

good luck, you need it because if 97% of the biggest tool junkies in the world think it is a joke, you have a problem

Of course you call bs. not a surprise to me at all. I have been very patient with the posts and your obnoxious uncalled for rants you havent offered one suggestion only "its going to fail its going to fail its going to fail. I understand that our video did not show the public exactly how it works under the hood and i want to thank you for pointing out that hole. myself and my partner collaborated on this and many have used it and have liked the "idea" Key word "IDEA" this is not ready for THE STORE. Kickstarter helps inventors bring their prototype to production. We originally wanted to break it and tighten it as well but given that you need 380 pounds per inch to break a rusty nut free. it is not possible but with the help of few minds on here we have now ironed out all the flaws, and you know what the ones who had the idea will be compensated for their input while you on the other hand could have had something to add but instead like a child you create a poll to bash an UN FINISHED product cause i am guessing you are very arrogant in your personal life (just an assumption not a fact) I am responding to you to clearly explain why we created this and the problem of tight spaces. It is a work in progress and we are still very proud of it that we were able to patent it. A very big accomplishment if you ask me. I create i write (check out my cookbook on amazon kindle "body by bacon- 50 best comfort food recipes") And i am a very balanced and un biased man who encourages people to create and not to sit in front of a tv on their day off. Also please dont put words into my mouth about not valuing mechanics and think they are stupid, i never said and i never will. We will post another with finished product and video in less than a month for you to enjoy. i will personally send you a set for all the advertisement you have given us. I will not reply unless you have something constructive to say. offer a solution never feed the problem.

 

[TheSpinWrench]

wider= fail. it was already too wide

now it will remove or install at whatever torque you want, before it could only develop 8 lb-ft

wow the holy grail of tools is now just going to take the "stress" out of some situations.

all of this in just 24 hours

i am sure that demanding tool users who are installing swings on playsets are already lined up.

you really have no clue.

ps. if you changed it that much your patent was a waste of time. matter of fact you may be infringing on someone else's patent by now.

now we have a lawyer for all that. the depth not the width sorry your royal highness. Just wait youll like the new one

 

[TheSpinWrench]

There are lots of assholes on the this forum that declare any tool they don't like to be ****, not going to point any fingers but it's pretty obvious who they are. You're not special, they raked SK over the coals for making a ratcheting wrench that doesn't suit their cosmetic tastes.

Thank you i appreciate it man. i Really do

if you would like private message me your address and we will send you a set once finished (about a month) It would be cool if you could review it

 

[sk farmer]

well it seems you don't know me either. i have been pretty deeply involved with 2 mfg's prototype and development of products. both are currently on store shelves. i did not start this poll to bash your product. it is and was a legitimate question and i put no bias into it. it is also not the first legitimate poll i have done. i once did poll to test the waters on a product i was thinking of bringing to market. when i found out there was not a need or want for it i did not pursue it farther,

i stand by the fact that you have promoted this as the "holy grail" of tools that is ready for production when in fact that is not true and a lie. the people are not stupid and to act is if this was all part of your plan is ridiculous. i have no plans to improve your product, that is your job. you came here to promote and ask for money and the fact that my simple poll helped bring down your "250,000 kickstarter campaign" proves just how bad your original product is. it is not my fault that you dropped the ball by showing off a product that was not ready for production. you can pick on me if you want but i believe that a consistent 97% of tool users don't see value in your product.

as far as watching tv on my day off, cookbooks, compensation and the like. i don't really think your long paragraph rant has much to do with the conversation at hand. if your new improved ratchet attachment or whatever it is works then so be it. i have no issue with it but that is not what you came to promote and is far from being ready. if it was it would stand on it's own, not needing all of the whiz bang descriptions.

if it ends up as some sort of father's day or christmas gift product the guys that know tools will smell it a mile away, because most of us have a drawer full of them already gathering dust. as i said before, good luck because you will need it.

 

[emeraldcoupe]

We got rid of the extension wand and what the public will receive will be a socket set to attach to ratchet or wrench.

I thought this was for places where a wrench or ratchet wouldn't fit? now it'll attach to a wrench or a ratchet? so why wouldn't I just use my regular sockets or wrench?

 

[logical]

So shut the heII up and prove us all wrong. You jumped too soon and made some huge mistakes but still got the feedback you needed. When you find yourself standing in a deep hole, its time to stop digging. My advice is go away and come back when its actually an invention. You want unconditional praise, go show it to your mother.

 

[sk farmer]

any one who wants to quote this is free to

a socket cut in half with a rubber coating and some fishing line wrapped around it is not the "holy grail" of tools even if it does come with a magnetic pick up "wand" and a light clipped to it.

 

[sk farmer]

So shut the heII up and prove us all wrong. You jumped too soon and made some huge mistakes but still got the feedback you needed. When you find yourself standing in a deep hole, its time to stop digging. My advice is go away and come back when its actually an invention. You want unconditional praise, go show it to your mother.

thank you for expressing my same thoughts so well

 

[sgs236]

Is it a better tool then this?

Judging by the number I see for sale at yard sales, auctions, etc., someone made a boatload of money selling those gator grip ratchets.

 

[TheSpinWrench]

I thought this was for places where a wrench or ratchet wouldn't fit? now it'll attach to a wrench or a ratchet? so why wouldn't I just use my regular sockets or wrench?

limited access

 

[TheSpinWrench]

So shut the heII up and prove us all wrong. You jumped too soon and made some huge mistakes but still got the feedback you needed. When you find yourself standing in a deep hole, its time to stop digging. My advice is go away and come back when its actually an invention. You want unconditional praise, go show it to your mother.

valid

 

[TheSpinWrench]

well it seems you don't know me either. i have been pretty deeply involved with 2 mfg's prototype and development of products. both are currently on store shelves. i did not start this poll to bash your product. it is and was a legitimate question and i put no bias into it. it is also not the first legitimate poll i have done. i once did poll to test the waters on a product i was thinking of bringing to market. when i found out there was not a need or want for it i did not pursue it farther,

i stand by the fact that you have promoted this as the "holy grail" of tools that is ready for production when in fact that is not true and a lie. the people are not stupid and to act is if this was all part of your plan is ridiculous. i have no plans to improve your product, that is your job. you came here to promote and ask for money and the fact that my simple poll helped bring down your "250,000 kickstarter campaign" proves just how bad your original product is. it is not my fault that you dropped the ball by showing off a product that was not ready for production. you can pick on me if you want but i believe that a consistent 97% of tool users don't see value in your product.

as far as watching tv on my day off, cookbooks, compensation and the like. i don't really think your long paragraph rant has much to do with the conversation at hand. if your new improved ratchet attachment or whatever it is works then so be it. i have no issue with it but that is not what you came to promote and is far from being ready. if it was it would stand on it's own, not needing all of the whiz bang descriptions.

if it ends up as some sort of father's day or christmas gift product the guys that know tools will smell it a mile away, because most of us have a drawer full of them already gathering dust. as i said before, good luck because you will need it.

that was probably your best post on this so far. im glad we were able to handle this like adults it gives me faith in you sk

 

[emeraldcoupe]

limited access

I still don't see the point. if I can get a socket in there why wouldn't I just use it?

 

[TheSpinWrench]

I still don't see the point. if I can get a socket in there why wouldn't I just use it?

ours is half the size of normal sockets once you break it free you leave the soin wrench on the bolt and pull line it will spin out quicker than any lever can do. even if you used this on a bolt or nut with 100 percent access this will spin out quicker than a ratchet or tool. This is only to be used when the swing is very limited. havent you ever worked on a bolt or nut that took you a long time to get off cause of the limited swing?

 

[emeraldcoupe]

havent you ever worked on a bolt or nut that took you a long time to get off cause of the limited swing?

only a couple of times over the years. definitely not something I'd buy, but good luck with it.

 

[1950mercury]

Ha ha some of the tags....

 

[TheSpinWrench]

Ha ha some of the tags....

yeah they are even making me laugh haha

 

[TheSpinWrench]

only a couple of times over the years. definitely not something I'd buy, but good luck with it.

thank you i appreciate that

 

[Ryan]

I would not buy these things... Nope... seems silly to me...

But damn SK, you have a lot of time on your hands.