Splice plates for 2x12

[Shootinok]

Building my shop (pole barn) the truss carriers just looked like they should have something at the splices. I decided to make my own.
I had several old table saw and miter saw blades; that gave me the idea.
I bought one Simpson plate and used it for the hole pattern. Spray painted it to mark the holes and doubling it, meaning I layed it on each side of center.
I clamped 6 blades together to drill 6 at a time.

After drilling, I cleaned, primed and painted them.

Building inspector loved them.

 

[apollo11]

I would have spread out the holes and staggered them.

 

[theoldwizard1]

I am surprised the inspector accepted them. Probably only because the hole pattern came off of a Simpson plate.

 

[Shootinok]

Plates are not required at all, inspector thought it was an upgrade.

 

[ilovevocs]

That's cool.

 

[MoonRise]

Interesting.

(but that isn't the "top plate". The "top plate" is the 'flat' 2x sitting on top of a stud wall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_plate

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/2001/03/15/anatomy-of-a-stud-framed-wall

http://www.dictionaryofconstruction.com/definition/top-plate.html

What you reinforced are the actual "beams". FYI, and all that. )

 

[gte718p]

I like that a lot.

One question though, shouldn't the beam be on the post instead of nailed to the side of it? That way the load is transferred by compression instead of shear on the nails. Obviously is fine, but is seams odd.

 

[bad_idea]

I briefly researched pole barns, was thinking about putting one in. They do the beams both ways.

 

[2oolhound]

You could put a short cleat under the 2X12's on the post the width of the post and 24" - 30" down. Drive a few nails straight in to locate it right under the 2x12's then drive some of the nails downward. That way the nails at the joints don't carry all the weight.

The saw blades look great!

 

[Shootinok]

I like that a lot.



One question though, shouldn't the beam be on the post instead of nailed to the side of it? That way the load is transferred by compression instead of shear on the nails. Obviously is fine, but is seams odd.

Yes - sort of...
it’s hard to see from the pic I attached, but the columns are notched on the outside to allow the outward beam to sit on a ledge or notch. I decided to only notch the outside to allow more meat of the column to extent to the top.
If I was building again today, I would still only notch one side, but if I had done the inside instead I wouldn’t have to add another 2x at the top for siding as it would then be in the same plane as the horizontal girt rails.

Here’s a pic of the other wall where it’s easier to see what I mean



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[chrism0107]

For some reason all I can think of when I see that is the movie final destination

 

[Fcvapor05]

With the inside of that double rim joist the way it is, it isn't carrying any load. You could've left it out.

Buildings aren't built that way for a reason.

 

[Nor'Easter]

What is the PN on your Simpson plate? I do not believe they would produce a product with screw patterns in line with grain pattern. Such a pattern drastically increases propagation of splintering along the grain.

 

[Shootinok]

What is the PN on your Simpson plate? I do not believe they would produce a product with screw patterns in line with grain pattern. Such a pattern drastically increases propagation of splintering along the grain.

Hmm.. you may be right about the lines. Maybe I should have oriented them turned 90deg.

I'll need to keep an eye on them and watch for splitting. They've been there for almost a year and it's not an issue yet. Hope that won't develope - ever.
I don't know the plate number but they are offset in one direction. They looked similar to this >

 

[Shootinok]

....
Buildings aren't built that way for a reason.

Disagree - if the posts were 4x4's both truss carriers would be face nailed on.
Pole barns built that way all over the country.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Great re-purpose of the saw blades.

 

[BD1]

Different. You could have thu bolted too and sandwich both sides.