Jon Jacobs
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Hi all, I am planning to paint some crane rails with Rustoleum with my paint gun. Has anybody tried this ? If so which is the preference, Acetone, Laquor thinner, reducer or paint thinner. What is the best ratio ? Thanks
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Bondo
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Ayuh,.... Anytime I've shot Rustoeum, I thinned with acetone, just enough to shoot it outa the gun,...
I did a black utility trailer. just used cheap paint thinner/mineral spirits. came out fine, but I believe some people may add some hardener to it. I didn't...don't recall the ratio, something close to 50/50 I think...just so it sprayed and flowed out.
toplessHO
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yep just sprayed some industrial semi gloss black
used Xylene for thinner and added universal hardner 8:1
sets up great and holds up much better with the hardner.
must use a good mask and in well ventilated place(outside is good)
dont thin any more than 20%
used Xylene for thinner and added universal hardner 8:1
sets up great and holds up much better with the hardner.
must use a good mask and in well ventilated place(outside is good)
dont thin any more than 20%
pcmeiners
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Anytime I shoot oil based paint I use lacquer thinner, dries quicker, paint hardens better. If you shoot thinned with paint thinner, takes forever to dry hard.
Ign
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Read the can!!! IIRC Rustoleum is very specific about only using acetone. Doesn't mean you have to but if in doubt I go with the manufacturer's reco (call me crazy)
I'd try as thin as 1:1 for spraying, but it may run on you depending upon your technique & skill.
I'd try as thin as 1:1 for spraying, but it may run on you depending upon your technique & skill.
+1 for acetone. Sprayed the undercarriage of my MGB with black Rustoleum when I restored it. One thing to be careful of though is don't lay the paint on too thick too fast in hot weather or it can bubble from the acetone evaporating rapidly.
Furniture_Hustler
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Always Lacquer Thinner for me, sets up quick and dries rock hard. Thin it down to the consistency of 2% milk.
actually, the can I have specifically states to use mineral spirits for spraying, but I searched and they do say acetone will flow out better...I may try that next time to see if it works better. my black trailer still looks good 5 yrs. later, but I did a red one a long time ago and recall it fading within a year...
OccupantRJ
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I normally use VM&P naphtha for the alkyd and oil base paints, but may give the lacquer thinner a try next time.
laser3kw
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paint thinner = mineral spirits - I learned that the hard way - for-ev- ver
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I sprayed some this past fall. It sprayed ok. I used acetone, which is what rustoleum recommends. It still takes a while to fully dry, I painted some old metal kitchen cabinets, they turned out pretty good, car paint would have been better but at about 5x the cost for material it wasn't justifiable.
Also it is crazy sticky with overspray, cover everything you don't want painted. Including yourself !! That stuff was stuck to me for 2 days!!
I still have one more large cabinet to do but I am going to wait for a nice spring day so I can do this outside, my floor is red now.
I used the "Safety red" color which is a pretty decent approximation of tool box red.
Also it is crazy sticky with overspray, cover everything you don't want painted. Including yourself !! That stuff was stuck to me for 2 days!!
I still have one more large cabinet to do but I am going to wait for a nice spring day so I can do this outside, my floor is red now.
I used the "Safety red" color which is a pretty decent approximation of tool box red.
chadman
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I spray it thinned with Acetone. Lays out real nice.
Been a couple of years but I need to spray some Rustoleum. Anybody have any new thoughts ? I have used mineral spirits in the past but think lacquer thinner or acetone.
This is the post I saw the other day that I was looking for but didn't know where it was. I wanted to add it to this thread too.
OccupantRJ
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I am still using naphtha and am happy with it. My son has been using xylene on machine parts for about a year and likes it. Dries really fast.
As the answers are confirming........it’s appears to say on the can ( depending on the age of the can) either mineral sprites, acetone or xylene. Mineral sprites is going to take a long time to dry.......like weeks to fully cure.
Every can does do not use lacquer thinner.........that might be because it’s more volatile and would need more ventilation and be a real danger in a confined space.
Every can does do not use lacquer thinner.........that might be because it’s more volatile and would need more ventilation and be a real danger in a confined space.
ard
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Isnt "Rustoleum" the name of a company, and NOT a product?
Ive use many, many different Rustoleum products- from DTM paints, concrete flooring epoxies, rattle cans, etc. All sorts of solvent systems
Id figure out which rustoleum product you are using, and download the product information sheet for that item
Ive use many, many different Rustoleum products- from DTM paints, concrete flooring epoxies, rattle cans, etc. All sorts of solvent systems
Id figure out which rustoleum product you are using, and download the product information sheet for that item
Iron-Iceberg
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Yea, mineral sprits drys really slow. Acetone will dry much faster and flow nice.
I use a Ford cup to get the same viscosity each time. Otherwise the paint can be thicker or thinner from one can to another, some are like peanut butter. So if going by percentages I end up adjusting the gun or adding more aceatone or material and chasing my tail to get it right. With the Ford cup it comes out the same each time.
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I use a Ford cup to get the same viscosity each time. Otherwise the paint can be thicker or thinner from one can to another, some are like peanut butter. So if going by percentages I end up adjusting the gun or adding more aceatone or material and chasing my tail to get it right. With the Ford cup it comes out the same each time.
My .02
When I went back to the garage let night, I checked the back of the can. It does say to use acetone and I took a picture. I need to check PB to see if it uploaded the picture.
Yes, Rustoleum is a brand but they are known for their spray paint and oil based paint. I believe most are referring to the oil based paint when they say "Rustoleum" Maybe I'm just getting old.
Yes, Rustoleum is a brand but they are known for their spray paint and oil based paint. I believe most are referring to the oil based paint when they say "Rustoleum" Maybe I'm just getting old.
OccupantRJ
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Well, just to get off the subject title, I also use Naptha with Sherwin Williams industrial enamel paints. I was turned on to this by the Sherwin rep when we had some painted metal doors that were painted and took forever to harden the paint.
ard
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Not to belabor the point, but I think it is irresponsible to suggest paint thinning based on beliefs and what we think OP might have been referring to.
Could may well be. Id still ID the actual paint, and read what Rustoleum recommends.
Not to belabor the point, but I think it is irresponsible to suggest paint thinning based on beliefs and what we think OP might have been referring to.
Could may well be. Id still ID the actual paint, and read what Rustoleum recommends.
True but maybe those that are suggesting should also state what product they are thinning. Six of one and a half dozen of another.
Since the thread is two years old, it might be a little bit late to ask the OP what he was referring to. However, I will post a picture that I have in the morning when I get home.
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I spray Rustoleum thinned with Acetone and get good results. Last summer I repainted a boat trailer that I had painted 15 years ago using Rustoleum and a engine hoist that I rescued from my brother's back yard. Both turned out very good. I refuse to use Rustoleum in the spray can due to the ridiculously high chance of a terminally clogged delivery system but from my own spray gun works great.
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dave_dj1
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aka Larry
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In the past I've tried a few combinations with Rustoleum. Lacquer Thinner, Mineral spirits, and Acetone. From my limited experience, Acetone indeed worked the best and dried faster.
The last I thing I painted was a trailer in which I used Rustoleum Hammertone Silver thinned with Acetone (approx. 15%), and I added some hardener to reduce the dry time. The hardener definitely sped up the process. Turned out pretty well IMO. About 35 PSI IIRC using the purple HF HVLP gun.
The last I thing I painted was a trailer in which I used Rustoleum Hammertone Silver thinned with Acetone (approx. 15%), and I added some hardener to reduce the dry time. The hardener definitely sped up the process. Turned out pretty well IMO. About 35 PSI IIRC using the purple HF HVLP gun.
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BigSteve63
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aka Larry - Nicely Done!
Stopped by the local Sherwin Williams today and picked up some enamel to paint a Poulan Pro mower deck. Asked about the mineral spirits vs. acetone and was told that the acetone would indeed help with dry time. Was also told to not cut as much with the acetone, but was not given any reason for that - would it dry too fast?
Steve
Possibly, it might spray dry and come out like sand.