LostBoy(IRL)
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Very sweet! Wrenchr
Spreading the Bonney affliction!
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BlueBomber
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jl4c
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Nice 12pc set of Bonney MEB metric combo wrenches posted on fleabay BIN for $57 including shipping. 7mm thru 19mm; missing the 10mm. Someone hurry and buy it before I'm forced to buy another metric set I don't need. ;-)
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four.cycle
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^ I saw those earlier and would have posted them in the "Ebay hot deal" thread but they appear to have been engraved. Look at the photos closely.
Otherwise it's a screamin' deal on that set.
Otherwise it's a screamin' deal on that set.
jl4c
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^ I saw those earlier and would have posted them in the "Ebay hot deal" thread but they appear to have been engraved. Look at the photos closely.
Otherwise it's a screamin' deal on that set.
Yeah, they say "Bob" on them. That's my Dad's name so that would have been no big deal for me. I see that someone bought them--hopefully a GJ member.
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I got them I didn't need them figured I would use them to upgrade the set of craftsman I keep in the truck. Now I will be on the lookout for that missing 10MM. I don't care if they say BOB. I will just say they used to belong to my uncle 
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Robert's your father's brother?I don't care if they say BOB. I will just say they used to belong to my uncle
twertsy
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four.cycle
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Ebay seller just listed a mess of different Bonney items.
Too many of them to post them all in the "Ebay hot deal" thread, and I'm kind of clueless when it comes to what "market value" on this stuff is.
Take a look if you like:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk....TRC0.A0.H0.Xbonney.TRS5&_nkw=bonney&_sacat=0
Too many of them to post them all in the "Ebay hot deal" thread, and I'm kind of clueless when it comes to what "market value" on this stuff is.
Take a look if you like:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk....TRC0.A0.H0.Xbonney.TRS5&_nkw=bonney&_sacat=0
Nice bunch of older Bonney. Not collectable quality, not Loc-Rite, but good users. If you can get a good deal on them pull the trigger.
LostBoy(IRL)
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Found a few more of the 23 series combination wrenches.
So now I have, 23712, 23714, 23720, 23726, & 23732.
The last two have rust. Sprayed then with wd40 and wrapped in cling film until I can get a chance to remove it.
Could any one point me to a list of what ones that make the set? Only seen the 67 catalogue, and don't see then in that. On phone so searching is a bit painful at the moment.
Not something people might be interested in, but the same place is selling the radiator ratchet (in Ireland) the ,rf25 they have 6-8 of them. Wouldn't be sure on postage costs, but if anyone is interested I can find out.
So now I have, 23712, 23714, 23720, 23726, & 23732.
The last two have rust. Sprayed then with wd40 and wrapped in cling film until I can get a chance to remove it.
Could any one point me to a list of what ones that make the set? Only seen the 67 catalogue, and don't see then in that. On phone so searching is a bit painful at the moment.
Not something people might be interested in, but the same place is selling the radiator ratchet (in Ireland) the ,rf25 they have 6-8 of them. Wouldn't be sure on postage costs, but if anyone is interested I can find out.
StillTooManyHobbies
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@Lostboy Go to toolarchives.com and download the 1977 Bonney catalog. You don't have to be a member to download. The 237xx set is in it. I know the set starts at 3/8" but I don't remember where it stops, but it's at least 1-1/4 (23740) because they are on ebay now.
LostBoy(IRL)
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Oh, interesting site, well have to examine that when I get more time. Thanks for the link.
But for the record, there are 14 in total.
23712 up to 23740 in increments of two. Covers 3/8 up to 1-1/4
But for the record, there are 14 in total.
23712 up to 23740 in increments of two. Covers 3/8 up to 1-1/4
New purchases. Zenel 2824 single offset dbe, 1926 CV 1033C doe, Streamline E2426 doe, 1925 #3 soe, textile machine works doe.
BTW, the single-offset DBEs that have gotten so popular on this thread were "sold under license of Blackmar Patent No.1424069" according to the 1933 catalog (download from Twertsy 's site). Datamp (http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?id=15692) mentions Snap-on's Blue-Point Boxocket wrenches as also conforming to the patent.
BTW, the single-offset DBEs that have gotten so popular on this thread were "sold under license of Blackmar Patent No.1424069" according to the 1933 catalog (download from Twertsy 's site). Datamp (http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?id=15692) mentions Snap-on's Blue-Point Boxocket wrenches as also conforming to the patent.
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I'm seeking a catalog page link for my 9/32 drive Bonney refrigeration socket set to check for completeness and age please.
The sockets are all female drive 4 pt squares, the 5 shorts are
Rf26 3/16
Rf27. 7/32
Rf28. 1/4
Rf30. 5/16
Rf32 3/8
Longer sockets are female drive with male tangs
Rf15
Rf35
Rf19
Rf33
Rf34
Sliding T handle is M5
Extension 4 1/2" is M4
There are no date codes visible.
All in a non named tin case.
The sockets are all female drive 4 pt squares, the 5 shorts are
Rf26 3/16
Rf27. 7/32
Rf28. 1/4
Rf30. 5/16
Rf32 3/8
Longer sockets are female drive with male tangs
Rf15
Rf35
Rf19
Rf33
Rf34
Sliding T handle is M5
Extension 4 1/2" is M4
There are no date codes visible.
All in a non named tin case.
twertsy
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Look at the '30s and early 40s era catalogs at toolarchives..com.
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Thanks Todd, For some reason I wasn't able to open any pages when I logged in earlier.
paulm12
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alinc100
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cross posted in the 2017 garage sale thread,thought I'd try and contribute here as well:
Just before lunch as I was setting some solid surface material on a reception counter a buddy texted about a toolbox he found and after a bit of pics and discussion I'll take delivery of this box and tools tomorrow:
I don't know any branding on the tools yet but I'm pretty sure the box is a Bonney. Based on a quick look at the catalogs it is an MB76
Just before lunch as I was setting some solid surface material on a reception counter a buddy texted about a toolbox he found and after a bit of pics and discussion I'll take delivery of this box and tools tomorrow:
I don't know any branding on the tools yet but I'm pretty sure the box is a Bonney. Based on a quick look at the catalogs it is an MB76
rickhigginshtbr
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As awesome as that box is, what in the hell is that logo below the box in the 3rd pic? Lifetime in a CMan crowntop logo?!?!? Never seen that before! What is it?
I know I'll catch hell for not taking a picture, but I spotted an unusual combination wrench yesterday. If it's still there next week, I may buy it. It was marked Bonney and 5/8 on one side, and Not Guaranteed on the other. It was about 18" long (in my memory), with a half twist in the center of the flat grip, so the two ends were rotated in planes 90°. The open end was standard; the box end looked like 15°, but tapered like a wedge from the handle down to maybe 1/4". This wasn't a user mod, because it had the same plated finish (maybe nickel) as the rest of the tool. The saddest thing to me (and what put me off from buying it) was it had no date code, so I don't know where to begin to research what it was for.
Any ideas (besides "get a picture")?
Any ideas (besides "get a picture")?
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Sounds like an interesting wrench. I hope it's still there for you next week.
I picked up a Bonney 3/4" drive ratchet last week. It was pretty rusty/crusty, but came out looking OK after a bath in the electrolysis tank. Works well.
Family shot
Fun shot with the 1/4" drive V25 and the 3/4" drive 4285
I picked up a Bonney 3/4" drive ratchet last week. It was pretty rusty/crusty, but came out looking OK after a bath in the electrolysis tank. Works well.
Family shot
Fun shot with the 1/4" drive V25 and the 3/4" drive 4285
3baygarage
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Nice lineup!
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Sam'sAutoParts
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Very nice!!
Private Lugnutz
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Man, I haven't been here so long I feel like I should have my Bonney Affliction card confiscated. Hopefully this will make up for it...
I found this vintage ignition set over the weekend.
The leatherette roll-up is in tatters, obviously, and the wrenches are very rough, but they’re all wartime. The three (3) wrenches with the 41-W-500 markings are from a wartime General Mechanics Tool-Set, bearing the Federal Stock Number that specified the electrical set. The three (3) Hinsdale wrenches are from a different electrical set.
The seventh wrench was a bit of fun tracking down.
There is no mfgr’s name on it, but any Bonney collector worth his weight in chromium vanadium would recognize the CV line branding.
The flip side has a 1943 date code (“FU”) forged-in and a number that looked unmistakably to me like a US Army Ordnance Dept stock number: A183908. (Tangentially, for anyone interested in history, drafting, with a wry sense of humor about the old days, the Ordnance Dept assigned stock numbers in classes based on the size of the part or tool and the size of the paper used to draw it.)
I have an original 1945 US Army Ordnance Catalog, where I found this entry on page 46.
The problem is, that nomenclature does not match the wrench. It does seem suited for electrical service, and it is about 3-3/4” long, but it’s obvious that the angled end is not angled at 90* (like a right angle or obstruction wrench would be). A protractor revealed that it’s 80*. A steel rule revealed that the milled openings are not 5/16”. They’re 3/8”. Which I double-checked with a micrometer.
Something was wrong. Either the wrench or the catalog. So I looked for the wrench in Bonney catalogs, which revealed that Bonney didn’t make an ignition service wrench with this configuration. So I started going page by page, thinking brake service or something special. Nothing. So I went older and older and finally found the wrench (1124) among the WRIGHT aircraft tools in the 1933 catalog.
Still can’t figure out why it was manufactured in 1943 with an Ordnance Dept stock number on it. My best guess is the Army purposed it for electrical service but got the specs wrong.
Either way, cool little wrench.
I found this vintage ignition set over the weekend.
The leatherette roll-up is in tatters, obviously, and the wrenches are very rough, but they’re all wartime. The three (3) wrenches with the 41-W-500 markings are from a wartime General Mechanics Tool-Set, bearing the Federal Stock Number that specified the electrical set. The three (3) Hinsdale wrenches are from a different electrical set.
The seventh wrench was a bit of fun tracking down.
There is no mfgr’s name on it, but any Bonney collector worth his weight in chromium vanadium would recognize the CV line branding.
The flip side has a 1943 date code (“FU”) forged-in and a number that looked unmistakably to me like a US Army Ordnance Dept stock number: A183908. (Tangentially, for anyone interested in history, drafting, with a wry sense of humor about the old days, the Ordnance Dept assigned stock numbers in classes based on the size of the part or tool and the size of the paper used to draw it.)
I have an original 1945 US Army Ordnance Catalog, where I found this entry on page 46.
The problem is, that nomenclature does not match the wrench. It does seem suited for electrical service, and it is about 3-3/4” long, but it’s obvious that the angled end is not angled at 90* (like a right angle or obstruction wrench would be). A protractor revealed that it’s 80*. A steel rule revealed that the milled openings are not 5/16”. They’re 3/8”. Which I double-checked with a micrometer.
Something was wrong. Either the wrench or the catalog. So I looked for the wrench in Bonney catalogs, which revealed that Bonney didn’t make an ignition service wrench with this configuration. So I started going page by page, thinking brake service or something special. Nothing. So I went older and older and finally found the wrench (1124) among the WRIGHT aircraft tools in the 1933 catalog.
Still can’t figure out why it was manufactured in 1943 with an Ordnance Dept stock number on it. My best guess is the Army purposed it for electrical service but got the specs wrong.
Either way, cool little wrench.
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four.cycle
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^ that is definitely an oddity. no idea what a "rocker box clamp nut" is, but I don't work on aircraft.
there were a couple gems listed on ebay during the last few days. just an FYI:
18-pc 3/8" dr metric set:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bon...980966?hash=item4d55dc45e6:g:WCsAAOSw4CFYxfry
15-pc 1/4" dr SAE set:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonney-1-4-034-SAE-Socket-Set-USA-/381998942272?
there were a couple gems listed on ebay during the last few days. just an FYI:
18-pc 3/8" dr metric set:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bon...980966?hash=item4d55dc45e6:g:WCsAAOSw4CFYxfry
15-pc 1/4" dr SAE set:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonney-1-4-034-SAE-Socket-Set-USA-/381998942272?
Private Lugnutz
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Me neither, but stand by, because the story continues...
Private Lugnutz
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A friend of mine on another forum found the Ordnance drawing number referenced to the M5 Director's toolkit. (The Director was an early fire direction control system for Bofors and other anti-aircraft guns.) Link here: http://archive.is/QNmQK
I happen have a nice empty M5 Director’s tool chest...
...and the tool list pasted under the lids of these chests confirms that a wrench with that Ordnance number was apparently used to turn a 3/8" fastener on the M5 Director.
Following the lead further, I searched on the stock number (F-209-01-52802), which turned up this public auction notice on Wrenching News:
http://wrenchingnews.com/2017-york-auction/catalog.html
See items 4 and 5 in this lot excerpted from the auction listing:
"0873. Lot of Five: Lot of Five: Misc. Wrenches, Etc. Will be sold choice item
(1.) Unmarked - - 9" cast combination tool with hammer, nail or tack claws, etc. Pitted.
(2.) Unmarked - - 4.75" cast wing nut wrench. Excellent.
(3.) Unmarked - - 4.5" combination double open ended wrench and saw blade holder. Excellent but saw blade is missing.
(4.) Unopened package with label that reads: "Quantity - 1, Nomenclature - WRENCH, DOUBLE END, Ord.DRG. No. - A183908, SNL Stock No. - F-209-01-52802, Used on - DIRECTOR M5 - M5A1 - M6, Mfg. By - THE SINGER MFG. CO., Date Packed - Aug. ::, 1944" - - 4.25" package length. Wrench made by The Singer Mfg. Co. For the US Military. M5, M5A1 and M6 were WW Two era US Army Tanks. Package is in Excellent condition and I assume the wrench inside is in Excellent. like new condition.
(5.) "THE SUPERRENCH" - 1122 (with Williams' "W" logo) / A183908 CHROME - ALLOY - - 3.75" doe ignition type wrench. WW Two era wrench Made by Williams for the US military with original wrapper and still coated with cosmoline. Note: Same part government part number as the Singer made wrench above. Excellent, like new."
I don't think Singer manufactured their own wrenches, any more than Willys or Ford did, but I could be wrong. I have one, along with a tape measure and a can of oil from a sewing machine repair kit. They may have bought them, from Bonney and Williams, apparently, despite their original purpose as an ignition service wrench.
The “1122” in the auction ad is a typo, by the way, by the auction house or the Ordnance Dept, if the auction house transcribed it correctly fro the packaging. Like Bonney, the Williams model number was "1124".
Whether the Bonney CV example I found was used on a Wright aircraft engine or an anti-aircraft FDC instrument, I have a feeling the old codger who put the make-shift ignition kit together with the 41-W-500 wrenches was using it as an ignition wrench, its original purpose, and I intend to keep it in the old ratty roll-up.
I happen have a nice empty M5 Director’s tool chest...
...and the tool list pasted under the lids of these chests confirms that a wrench with that Ordnance number was apparently used to turn a 3/8" fastener on the M5 Director.
Following the lead further, I searched on the stock number (F-209-01-52802), which turned up this public auction notice on Wrenching News:
http://wrenchingnews.com/2017-york-auction/catalog.html
See items 4 and 5 in this lot excerpted from the auction listing:
"0873. Lot of Five: Lot of Five: Misc. Wrenches, Etc. Will be sold choice item
(1.) Unmarked - - 9" cast combination tool with hammer, nail or tack claws, etc. Pitted.
(2.) Unmarked - - 4.75" cast wing nut wrench. Excellent.
(3.) Unmarked - - 4.5" combination double open ended wrench and saw blade holder. Excellent but saw blade is missing.
(4.) Unopened package with label that reads: "Quantity - 1, Nomenclature - WRENCH, DOUBLE END, Ord.DRG. No. - A183908, SNL Stock No. - F-209-01-52802, Used on - DIRECTOR M5 - M5A1 - M6, Mfg. By - THE SINGER MFG. CO., Date Packed - Aug. ::, 1944" - - 4.25" package length. Wrench made by The Singer Mfg. Co. For the US Military. M5, M5A1 and M6 were WW Two era US Army Tanks. Package is in Excellent condition and I assume the wrench inside is in Excellent. like new condition.
(5.) "THE SUPERRENCH" - 1122 (with Williams' "W" logo) / A183908 CHROME - ALLOY - - 3.75" doe ignition type wrench. WW Two era wrench Made by Williams for the US military with original wrapper and still coated with cosmoline. Note: Same part government part number as the Singer made wrench above. Excellent, like new."
I don't think Singer manufactured their own wrenches, any more than Willys or Ford did, but I could be wrong. I have one, along with a tape measure and a can of oil from a sewing machine repair kit. They may have bought them, from Bonney and Williams, apparently, despite their original purpose as an ignition service wrench.
The “1122” in the auction ad is a typo, by the way, by the auction house or the Ordnance Dept, if the auction house transcribed it correctly fro the packaging. Like Bonney, the Williams model number was "1124".
Whether the Bonney CV example I found was used on a Wright aircraft engine or an anti-aircraft FDC instrument, I have a feeling the old codger who put the make-shift ignition kit together with the 41-W-500 wrenches was using it as an ignition wrench, its original purpose, and I intend to keep it in the old ratty roll-up.
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davethorik
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Not a crown top logo, although i can see how you'd mix them up. That is a Lifetime brand plastic top folding table.
https://www.lifetime.com/folding-tables
