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daddycreswell
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You can right click the expanded photo and save it as a file then upload to a photo company ie Walmart, Walgreens etc and buy whatever size you want.
daddycreswell
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You can right click the expanded photo and save it as a file then upload to a photo company ie Walmart, Walgreens etc and buy whatever size you want.
Mr. 360
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If you look close, there appears to be a second bottle on the back bench between the two guys, and one on the bench to the right of the OA bottles. You could have a fairly good game of 'I Spy' with this pic (I can spot 5 vises and I believe 6 wreaths). I for one like the long bench on the right and the wooden floors. Oh, and maybe the Porsches mid-build. Wonder if these guys knew how cool their jobs were.
HICKS
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Awesome, thanks for sharing.
At that point in the German reconstruction, all jobs were cool!
A few years ago, I read about a restoration of a Spyder with a close eye on production methods, as I think they were trying to build a new aluminum Spyder from scratch at the same time. What did they find? They found... are you sitting down? In all sorts of hidden corners, where nobody was looking or you'd least expect it, they did the metal work the right way. Or the hard way. Or the complicated way. You know, German cars.
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A few years ago, I read about a restoration of a Spyder with a close eye on production methods, as I think they were trying to build a new aluminum Spyder from scratch at the same time. What did they find? They found... are you sitting down? In all sorts of hidden corners, where nobody was looking or you'd least expect it, they did the metal work the right way. Or the hard way. Or the complicated way. You know, German cars.
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thickhead
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I'm kinda thinking that those are 718 W-RS cars in that photo from what I could find online.
Not the earlier 550, RS60, RS61, RSK models.
Not sure though. Anyone? Because that would help date it.
Not the earlier 550, RS60, RS61, RSK models.
Not sure though. Anyone? Because that would help date it.
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thickhead
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You think those wreaths are from race victories?
That or somebody took a really nice cow to the fair!
I think they're from race victories, that's how they did it then. Maybe they still do, I've lost touch with modern racing.
Three kinds of nerds we need to date this pic:
Old Porsche nerds
Wine nerds
Race poster nerds
rustyjames
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I'll bet it's a beer bottle. I don't know if it's still allowed, but when I was on a tour of the Mercedes Benz assembly plant near Stuttgart there were cases of beer near various work stations. That was about 25 years ago.
Arbybe
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My first job was in a wood floor Harley Davidson shop on Poplar Ave. near
The projects where Elvis grew up,downtown Memphis. Late 50's early-mid 60's
No wine, but plenty of beer bottles out back!
Anytime I smell Gunk on a hot engine. Lucky guy.
Oh what memories!
The projects where Elvis grew up,downtown Memphis. Late 50's early-mid 60's
No wine, but plenty of beer bottles out back!
Anytime I smell Gunk on a hot engine. Lucky guy.
Oh what memories!
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nolimits76
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Could have been wine or beer bottles -- let's not forget the German culture embraces drinking in a different manner than Americans. They even have Kinderbier (children's beer), although known by different names in various parts of the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamalz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamalz
ridgebk995
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Thing that always strikes me in all the shops and factories of the period are the large windows for natural light. Was probably cold in winter, but that kind of light is nice to work in. Not having decent lighting solutions was likely another factor.
Falcon67
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Even if you pump that smallish photo up to 300 dpi it's going to really grainy at 24x36. Be nice if there was a larger copy somewhere.
A couple of you said those are wood floors. They look uneven to me. I'm guessing they are brick.
Lighting: there are a few florescent tubes along the one wall and a few task lamps. That's it. That place must be dark at night.
OTOH, there are LOTS of windows so there's plenty of natural light. It seems someone has removed the outside scenes from the windows. I wonder why they would do that?
The vises look like Leinen, or at least that style.
Beer not wine. It's Germany fercrissakes!
Engine work going on in the same shop with general assembly - no different than most of us!
Are those pinup posters (ie. pics of women) at the bottom of the pillar between the two banks of windows in the back? And on the cabinet in the corner of the room? I'm pretty sure I see *****.
They are all wearing coveralls - a factory uniform.
No one is wearing safety glasses.
There's a cord or hose laying on the floor in front of the cars. There weren't any hand held power tools back then. What about pneumatic? Or could that just be the oxy/fuel hose?
There are very few hand tools visible. There's a Harbor Freight hammer, a groove lock pliers, a couple side cutters (or similar) and some special tools on that bench in the foreground.
Those are some pretty tall oxygen tanks. Either that or Porsche employs some short workers!
toplessHO
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So why has not one said anything about the child labor?
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Ranger
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"A couple of you said those are wood floors. They look uneven to me. I'm guessing they are brick."
I was in a US WW II aircraft factory and the floor was made up of wood blocks this size.
I was in a US WW II aircraft factory and the floor was made up of wood blocks this size.
toplessHO
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this^ alot of factorys had this type floor.
easy to move equipment out patch the hole and put new in a different configuration
Rolleiflex
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A couple of you said those are wood floors. They look uneven to me. I'm guessing they are brick.
Lighting: there are a few florescent tubes along the one wall and a few task lamps. That's it. That place must be dark at night.
OTOH, there are LOTS of windows so there's plenty of natural light. It seems someone has removed the outside scenes from the windows. I wonder why they would do that?
The vises look like Leinen, or at least that style.
Beer not wine. It's Germany fercrissakes!
Engine work going on in the same shop with general assembly - no different than most of us!
Are those pinup posters (ie. pics of women) at the bottom of the pillar between the two banks of windows in the back? And on the cabinet in the corner of the room? I'm pretty sure I see *****.
They are all wearing coveralls - a factory uniform.
No one is wearing safety glasses.
There's a cord or hose laying on the floor in front of the cars. There weren't any hand held power tools back then. What about pneumatic? Or could that just be the oxy/fuel hose?
There are very few hand tools visible. There's a Harbor Freight hammer, a groove lock pliers, a couple side cutters (or similar) and some special tools on that bench in the foreground.
Those are some pretty tall oxygen tanks. Either that or Porsche employs some short workers!
The reason that you can't see outside is that in order to get the correct camera exposure for the inside of the shop the outside becomes blown out or overexposed.
Oh and yes there were power tools back then. A German company, C&E Fein, first came out with a power drill in 1895. This picture was taken many years after that.
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Ozwelder
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Because the "children" you think you see are in fact young apprentices.In that era they would have started them in their trade around 14 or 15 years of age.
It was very different time as far as workshop conditions go, where WH&S personal protective equipment requirements were not a big consideration and workers relied upon their own common sense to keep them and their fellow workers safe.
There was greater emphasis on correct safe working procedure that on PPE itself.
The acetylene oxygen cylinders may appear oversize to some but they were like around that time and remember they photo is German so O/A cylinder construction dimension can vary from country to country. You can see the large motor cycle wheel on one side of the trolley, again indicating the height of the cylinders. The trolley construction is typical of the ones I worked with in my apprenticeship.
Overall the level of equipment for the shop was not too bad for the time.In fact ours was spartan to the one shown which my fellow workers would have regarded it a workers palace.
Ozwelder
gahrajmahal
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I just saw another mention of NEW vintage photos in Car Craft. The Detroit public library is listing more than 32,000 photos from the National Automotive History Collection. The Mag lists the link as;
DigitalCollections.DetroitPublicLibrary.org
Then click on "digital collections"
I haven't checked it out yet, but will soon.
DigitalCollections.DetroitPublicLibrary.org
Then click on "digital collections"
I haven't checked it out yet, but will soon.
Plus if you drop a tool on it it doesn't ruin the tool, and if you spill oil, the surface won't become slippery as the end grain of the wood absorbs oil in no time and the surface is rough. It's also nice to walk or stand on. My high school metal shop had a floor like this, well it was made of maybe 6" pieces of 2x4, but same principle. If my shop weren't vertically challenged (only 8' tall), I'd build a floor like that.
Scuderia-F1
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They are 718 RSK's from what I can see in the pic, the W-RS headlights are more of an 904 shape.
VERY cool pic.
Really cool pictures .... especially since I had a friend who used to race Spyders for the Porsche factory back in the `60`s and I raced the Speedsters in SCCA E/P in the late `60`s ..... yes , I`m that old .
Probably beer bottles on the workbench . I worked for several German companies and I remember going on the factory floor and seeing beer vending machines .... one mark 60 got you a bottle of Lohr Export beer . Everyone could drink at their work station , but if you got drunk .... immediate termination . One bottle would last all day . They would take a sip , close it up and take another later .
Can`t speak for now , but that`s what they did back then .
Probably beer bottles on the workbench . I worked for several German companies and I remember going on the factory floor and seeing beer vending machines .... one mark 60 got you a bottle of Lohr Export beer . Everyone could drink at their work station , but if you got drunk .... immediate termination . One bottle would last all day . They would take a sip , close it up and take another later .
Can`t speak for now , but that`s what they did back then .
