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Square D HOM Tandem Breaker Ties

AffableCurmudgeon

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I am not finding any ties for tandem breakers (pictured). I see ties that work for breakers in 2 different breaker locations, but none that tie the two breakers in the same tandem breaker. I need to tie the two circuits. I am using a m4 nut and bolt. Any better way? Thanks.

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Why do they need to be tied together? Just curious...
 
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If it isn't in the square d catalog, then you'll be on your own. The bolt you are using should suffice, but keep it mind that it won't cause both to trip if there is an overload or short
 
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Yep, that is what I figured. I just want to make sure that when someone kills the circuit, on purpose, to work on the outlets, they kill both circuits. I have 5 of such boxes, the first one with GFCI and the rest like below.


If it isn't in the square d catalog, then you'll be on your own. The bolt you are using should suffice, but keep it mind that it won't cause both to trip if there is an overload or short
 

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It may be a bit of an overthink. If the person has any business being inside the box they will check if it is live before licking their fingers and poking around. If the panel is well labelled it should also take the mystery out of figuring it out (it is two circuits, one location).

If a proper item is not available for the purpose I would not "hack" it. If it was a must for you maybe consider something like the CHOMT2020220 and use the two tied inner breakers as your feed for these two circuits, but you can still wire each with a separate neutral instead of a full MWBC but the two are factory tied for common trip. It will likely require some moving things around on the panel (two spaces required instead of one). It also looks like they make a tie bar for two adjacent breakers like you have, which is a similar concept.

Other than that what you are trying (tying two together, but not MWBC) is likely an uncommon application so off the shelf may not be possible.

Not sure for US code (NEC) but it is not uncommon here for multiple circuits in one box, specially for switches. No need for common trip.
 
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HD has these. About $8 for a package of 3.


They look too big for a tandem, but Schneider shows a tandem in the picture.
Thanks. I looked at those at HD. They work well if you have two tandems side-by-side, one in each breaker slot, and you want to tie the two inner breakers together.
I am just going to stick with the bolt and nut I have in place now. Thanks.
 
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