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Squirrel cage blower enclosure sizing

jwvess00

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Hello,

Dad has been wanting to come up with a semi-portable blower fan for his 32x40 shop. Lucky for him, a neighbor just had the HVAC system in her house replaced, and the contractor gave him the old blower assembly (squirrel cage blower and motor). He wants to put it in a wooden box of some kind with a furnace filter on the inlet and use it to draw air out of the shop. He has quite a few windows he can open to draw fresh air in. I don't know exactly how he intends to use it, but at one point he was thinking of setting it in the floor and lowering a garage door on it, with some baffling to seal off the rest of the door opening. Why he's wanting to use this to exhaust air from the shop rather than blow air in is his call but that's his plan.

I don't have measurements handy but given what's in his house, and the sizes of the other houses in the neighborhood, I'd guess this came out of a 2.5-3 ton heat pump HVAC system, with no exterior dimension larger than about 20" on the blower housing.

I was under the impression that these blowers had specific needs about the inlet and outlet plenum they were in, either to give some sort of inlet restriction (overspeed prevention?) or something. I'm obviously not an HVAC guy! I couldn't find any design criteria here or in any of my Google searches.

I've also seen these re-used for DIY airborne dust collection. I have a Powermatic PM1200 hanging from my woodshop ceiling and it's not much more than a squirrel cage and a filter (with a fancy RF remote that is really nice). Most of those homebrew ones don't appear to have much for inlet or outlet ducting or plenum besides just enough to hold the blower housing and a filter (or stack of filters).

Any thoughts on the design of the box I should build for Dad to put this blower housing in? Is it as simple as building a box big enough to hold it and the filter(s) he wants to use? Do I need to make sure the box has a certain shape or volume on either the inlet or outlet side?

He's got a stack of 16x20 filters from his old HVAC unit before that system was replaced, so I think he wants to use that size. We could use more than one in parallel if needed (i.e. two side-by-side).

Any thoughts on this are appreciated.
 
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zmaxmotorsports

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They pull air in throught the sides and blow it out though the top,You need to figure that into your design if youre going to build a box.
No need for a filter,Most people just set them in the middle of the room with screen over the sides to keep things out of blower and let em rip.;)
 

gregtwojeeps

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Agree ^^^^ :thumbup::thumbup:

Since he is using it as an exhaust blower, not really any use in filtering exhaust air. Unless.... he doesn't want the blower fins to gets dirt caked on them. ....

And for sure as Zmax said above, get screens on those intakes. A kids fingers or anything accidently poked or falling in to the blower...not good. Good Luck with Dad's project ! JMO

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fred d

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I had a similar fan in my garage for years. Moved air fine.
Had a HVAC guy come by and saw my fan. He asked if he could make a modification to it to improve the longevity and increase the air flow volume. I said absolutely

He added the rectangle sheet metal to the inlet side as shown in pic below.
The RPMs of the fan increased drastically. It was like adding a turbo to it the air flow increased to probably double
Don't understand (though he explained it at the time) just know it worked
He also said because it wasn't dragging so much, it wasn't working as hard and the fan would last much longer.
That was about 20 years ago
 

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Bunk

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Fred, it looks like he just blocked off half of the air inlet, is that what we're seeing?
Did he do that on both sides of the blower?
 
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Brian_WK

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Motors run most efficiently at a a designed speed. When there is no restriction on the inlet or outlet. Like what would be supplied from static pressure from the duct work, A-coil, Heat exchanger etc. and the filter return air. The fan blade is allowed to grab more air then designed which overpowers the motor. Putting a restriction on it allows the motor to spin at its designed RPM and amp draw.
I prefer to close off the outlet and cut holes and put elbows in to direct the air and use a filter on the inlets. The motors are usually pull through open motors and the cooling of them comes from the air getting pulled through them. They get pretty dirty on the inside.

Brian
 
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