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madbim

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I'm in the process redoing the railing for my deck and stairs off of the deck. I'm doing the railing out of cedar and planning to do horizontal stainless cable.

I was originally planning on using Feeney Standard Assemblies, but I feel they are kind of pricey for what they are. Still wanting to do cable railing I'm looking at the possibility of some more affordable options. Wondering if anyone else has any experience with cable railing?
 
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Our deck renovation starts this coming Monday. We planned on Feeney as well, but it is twice the price of an acceptable alternative. We are going with Westbury (a Wolf company). We are using vertical cable since we have small kids and horizontal cable tends to encourage climbing. Feeney is really nice but I can find a better use for the extra $7k it was going to cost.
 

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I installed a deck last year and did cable railing. I went with Feeney from DecksDirect and am very happy with their product. If you do 34" tall railings you are looking at 10 runs of cable spaced 3" apart. The cable is about $1 a foot, so $10 per foot on your railing. I did 90 feet of cable with 4x4 cedar posts. I drilled all the posts first (I bought decksdirect drill bit) and it worked perfect. Looks great. I am still in the process of putting a finish on the cedar posts and railing.
Any railing is going to run a fair amount, unless you do ugly wood slates. I also looked at vertical aluminum rods from Home Depot and I thought they looked good too.
I will say the cable just vanishes when looked at. If you have any kind of view, do the cable. Vertical cable will be much more costly. Worried about your kid on the horizontal? The railing will be around for 20+ years. You kid will only try to climb it for 2 years and grow out of it. Tell them not to climb it (or hook an electric fence supply to the cable).

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I installed a deck last year and did cable railing. I went with Feeney from DecksDirect and am very happy with their product. If you do 34" tall railings you are looking at 10 runs of cable spaced 3" apart. The cable is about $1 a foot, so $10 per foot on your railing. I did 90 feet of cable with 4x4 cedar posts. I drilled all the posts first (I bought decksdirect drill bit) and it worked perfect. Looks great. I am still in the process of putting a finish on the cedar posts and railing.
Any railing is going to run a fair amount, unless you do ugly wood slates. I also looked at vertical aluminum rods from Home Depot and I thought they looked good too.
I will say the cable just vanishes when looked at. If you have any kind of view, do the cable. Vertical cable will be much more costly. Worried about your kid on the horizontal? The railing will be around for 20+ years. You kid will only try to climb it for 2 years and grow out of it. Tell them not to climb it (or hook an electric fence supply to the cable).

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Very similar build to what I'm doing. I like the color of the deck surface, what stain is that?
 

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I have to echo agreement with horz vs vert when it comes to kids. Horz is easier and looks great.....as long as there are not kids to worry about. I know, if I was a kid, I'd be climbing that **** in a rats *** second.
 

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I've been using Feeney for the last twelve years but probably for a different reason. I can sell a cable job for less because labor will be quite a bit less. We can install Feeney so much faster than the systems that use bulk cable and fittings. Those systems pull you in with low cost material and never mention the amount of time involved. To be fair, if you are installing it yourself time is not a factor and that kind of system may make financial sense.

We just finished up retrofitting a 55' long pedestrian bridge across a creek with ten cables on each side and it took two guys fifty minutes to install the cable.
 

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The horizontal cable is definitely a magnet for kids to climb on.

First thing my grandson did after we first installed ours was to start jungle Jim maneuvers.

He outgrew that phase, but it’s definitely something to consider.

It’s not only my grandson, either. Whenever small kids are here for the first time, they are magically drawn to the cables.
 

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I used some Feeney products MANY years ago...like 15?..before they had their kits and speciifc deck products. When you could drive by, and pick up parts yourself over at their warehouse...

Seems WAY too expensive now- they sell to the middleman, who sells to you.

Since then I've just bought materials. On a few occasions, I've had ends machine swaged, but I also have a mechanical crimper. (Machine swaged fittings look better.). Depending on the design, you can often place the field crimp at a less visible location. Or use the automatic ends with the internal jaw/clamp.

I just did an architectural wood item- a large 9 ft curved oak 'arm' that was suspended out over a second floor railing- used two 1/8" cables to hold. Found all the fittings online, outfit in SoCal. Turnbuckles, clevis fitting, etc. There are quite a few vendors- some for just parts, some with a 'deck railing focus', some who will fab ends for you. Way less than Feeney

Finally, on the horizontal thing and kids... Ever see those nanny cam videos of the babies supposed to be sleeping? But instead they are up over the vertical railed sides of their cribs like Olympic pommel horse champions? tell them not to climb it. Monitor them. And hey, it's a way to weed out the dumb ones. (;))

Finally, vertical cables increases the cost exponentially, I'd think. I can cover 80 ft of railing with 10 cables. That's 20 ends. Vertically you would need two fittings every 4 inches, 6 per foot, 480 for 80 feet. If my math is accurate...
 
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I actually found the best pricing on Amazon. We are a commercial contractor who has worked with Feeney in the past, but their pricing was just too high. I searched for a while and saved some significant money through Amazon.
 

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I made this set of railings for a Hino dealership. Keep in mind I think code for separation is 3" with wire.

Here's where I purchased the wire and turnbuckles.
http://fortunerope.com/
 

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I actually found the best pricing on Amazon. We are a commercial contractor who has worked with Feeney in the past, but their pricing was just too high. I searched for a while and saved some significant money through Amazon.

What did you end up getting from amazon?
 

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Very similar build to what I'm doing. I like the color of the deck surface, what stain is that?

The deck surface is composite Trex. Since it is flat and water/snow will sit on it I did not want wood. I did a wood railing out of cedar (I did not want cedar for the deck surface as it dents easily).

I also put window wrap on the top of the joists so it will keep moisture off them.
 

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What did you end up getting from amazon?

Amazon, Cumberland Sales Company Inc.

I would guess that with today's tariffs so nicely installed by our government that prices have changed. I just shopped and shopped to find the best pricing available.
 

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I made this set of railings for a Hino dealership. Keep in mind I think code for separation is 3" with wire.

Here's where I purchased the wire and turnbuckles.
http://fortunerope.com/



I am following the post because i am installing a trex deck right now. I want to do the cable railing & was thinking about some steel posts that i would have powder coated. Has anyone done something like this on a deck?
 

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I bought my SS crimp fittings off of Amazon. The HF hydraulic crimper works great. My SS post were made by a local fab shop for 1/2 the price of Feeney and others online.
 
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I have used ArkHardware and Panorama Cable stainless steel fittings. They appear identical in most respects. Both are 316 stainless. I first bought lag bolt swage fittings, both plain and turnbuckle from Panorama. After I discovered my brick pillars weren't strong enough to tension the cables, I returned the unused portion of those and bought 1/4" threaded swage fittings from ArkHardware as Panorama was out at the moment. I had to double my post order to add a post at each end of each section instead of lagging into the brick pillars. I'm using IPE for the top rail. I am using the Harbor Freight hydraulic crimper to crimp the fittings on the cable. It works great, makes a nice clean crimp. I'm doing two crimps per fitting.
 
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Would love to see more pictures of cable railings that you guys have installed. I'm looking to use cable but have either pipe or square tubing for my posts & cross member.
Thanks
 

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Instead of cable I used a 1x2" wire mesh. So far, 8 years, it has held up just fine and proven the nay-sayers in this thread, https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61680 wrong. Not one child in the dozens that have been on this deck has successfully climbed on it. The mesh is to small to get a toe hold and the wire small enough to hurt if you try it by hand. At this point in time it still looks good and I'm happy with it.

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Just completed the first couple of sections of my cable railing. I like how its going and how its looking.
 

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katmat

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Just completed the first couple of sections of my cable railing. I like how its going and how its looking.

Look Good. Where did you get your posts? I am looking for something like them but in white, I also want a upper rail that would be white in either vinyl or aluminum.
Thanks
 

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I didn't want a metal top rail because in our summer sun it will blister the skin off of you if you lay your arm on it. I planned to use IPE, but put in the PT for now. The post were built by my cousin's fab shop. He was 50% cheaper than anything I could order. Cheapest on-line price I could find was $145 plus shipping from Oregon per post. He built them for $95. 2x2x.25 stainless steel, .25 top and bottom plates, drilled every 3 inches. TIG welded.
 
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