stains vs dyes

[jsmith6752]

Has anyone been sorry for going this route? Is the up keep a pain vs epoxy?
I want a light color if I go that route so I can find small thins dropped on the floor. I pretty much drop things all the time. What a Bxxxxx getting old.

 

[Kanticoy]

I'll be watching. Heard of using Ferrous Sulfate....curious.

 

[les_garten]

I'll be watching. Heard of using Ferrous Sulfate....curious.

Now that's interesting. Can you give a link? Sounds like a well water stain.

EDIT: I just found some info on this,THANX a ton!

 

[Kanticoy]

Yup, here's an article about it.

http://www.cathy-moore.com/house/stain.html

This one is another. It's super cheap, that's why I like it. Also just a beautiful color.

http://members.socket.net/~llile/ConcreteStain/Concrete_Stain.html

 

[les_garten]

Yeah, I'm gonna be all over this.

I'm looking for something to do my driveway with. I have a car that pisses oil pretty good. Any idea of a good sealer?

This stain is totally brilliant!

Thanx!

Is there an explanation about how to do that driveway you pictured?

 

[Kanticoy]

Absolutely. I have a friend that did his entire home with this as it is a reconditioned barn turned house. I'll ask what he used as a sealer. And yes, there is a tutorial on the sites posted.

 

[AlphaGarage]

One thing to keep in mind is that the resulting color can look quite different from one project to another even using the same stain. That's partially because the stains aren't just a tint, but often chemicals that react with various components in the concrete, and those components can vary quite a bit from region to region and even within a region.

 

[Kanticoy]

Yeah Alpha, I guess that's why I like the look of it so much. The variations are organic and natural looking. very nice look to me.

 

[thegarageguy]

This is a confusing thread...the title is "stain vs dye", then poster leads with "vs epoxy"...

So, just to be clear, I want you to understand that stains and dyes are a coloring method and that's all. Concrete stains come in many forms, such as acid stains, water based stains and acetone dyes. Acids and water based are usually UV resistant but dyes are generally not.

These coloring methods must be sealed with either an acrylic or epoxy. Without them the color will not show and or last. In some cases people think the stain is faded but it's generally in need of resealing.

In a garage setting, 2 things regarding a stain and seal job, IMO...

Acid stain will not work because during the concrete grinding process, the cream is that causes the great reaction will removed.

Second, a garage needs a good stain resistant sealer that can manage salts as well as hot tires.

In garages, we typically use UV resistant acetone dyes with an epoxy - polyaspartic finish. Similar to this:

 

[les_garten]

@TheGarageGuy

If I used the Iron Sulfate stain mentioned here on my driveway, what would be a good durable sealant that could resist motor oil well?

I would think that with this coloring that yellowing wouldn't really matter or would it?

The Iron Sulfate Stain seems like it would be permanent as well, correct?

 

[thegarageguy]

Yes, but be careful of green and blue colors, they eventually turn black. It would still need to be sealed...in a driveway, you need a breathable non yellowing sealer, such as a water or solvent based acrylic sealer.

 

[les_garten]

Yes, but be careful of green and blue colors, they eventually turn black. It would still need to be sealed...in a driveway, you need a breathable non yellowing sealer, such as a water or solvent based acrylic sealer.

Can you recomend something for this part of my post?

what would be a good durable sealant that could resist motor oil well?

I'm weighing all my options. Is there something out
there that will do this well on a driveway? I'm asking you because you are in the biz and have probably seem a lot of failures and successes.

 

[thegarageguy]

Again, solvent based acrylic, choose your poison......Not here to endorse any particular product.

Your question would be best asked to the local distributors and manufacturers that frequent this site.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Again, solvent based acrylic, choose your poison......Not here to endorse any particular product.

Your question would be best asked to the local distributors and manufacturers that frequent this site.

Hey Les, we have an excellent sealer, HD 6414. Two thin coats and you are solid for traffic and oil spills.

When staining, you can get highlights by adding a darker color randomly over the base color. Our easy stain does this very nicely.