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340RedCoupe

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Daughter and son in law had a patio poured today. It was stamped with the pattern they wanted. Nice day maybe 65 degree high. The schedule is cut tomorrow and I assume remove forms . (The forms are still on) Then color the next day. I always thought strip forms and cut same day if poured early in the day, this was finished by noon. Color or dye during the stamping process. Does this sound like these guys know what they are doing? By the way they really splashed the house and it is still on there now. To me it I don’t think they know what they are doing.
And naturally the boss is not on site.
 
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The local concrete maestro here taped up plastic on the house I watched him do (coworkers).

He also doesn’t always strip forms but is careful to have no form stakes above the top of the form so they don’t interfere with screeding or stamps. I think it’s a matter if the side of the slab will be exposed or not.
 

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There are several ways to color concrete. It can be added at the plant so the color goes throughout, it can be applied in powder form to the wet concrete in place or the concrete can be stained after it has set. Typically the second method is used with stamped concrete along with a release agent but all three methods will work.

I wouldn't worry about the forms but it's risky to wait so long before cutting control joints. Tension from shrinkage starts developing in new concrete soon after it is placed. Since the concrete hasn't developed much tensile strength yet, shrinkage cracks are likely.

The purpose of control joints is to relieve the tension by encouraging the concrete to crack where you can't see it as opposed to forming random surface cracks. Ideally these joints are grooved during placement or cut immediately after placement with an early entry saw.

The longer you wait before cutting control joints, the more likely you'll get surface cracks. The likelihood of this occurring depends on a number of factors such as the size and shape of the slab, the concrete mix and slump, weather conditions, etc.

I'd carefully inspect the slab (the cracks might be hard to see early on) before I made final payment. I'd also make sure the concrete comes off the adjacent surfaces without damage. I think you might be right about the competency of the crew.
 
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I have done the form work for a few stamped concrete jobs. I pay a crew that only does stamped work for the pattern work, pouring, release color(s) and cutting. As Concretin said there are different ways to add the colors. The crew I have worked with always orders the concrete colored from the plant now. They add a liquid color (dye) right into it while it's going in the truck. Years ago, they used to use a powdered bag colorant that would be poured into the truck at the pour site. Powdered was messy and not consistent in color. The crew I work with adds the powdered release color on the concrete just before the stamping process. The next day the forms are still left on but the stamped work gets the control joints cut in and sealed. I usually take the forms off a week later. Here is my own walk I did the form work on about ten years ago. There is 12" of compacted stone under it and zero cracks in it. It's poured 4" thick on the walk and 6" thick in front of the main porch. I did not want any control joints cut in the main porch area, so we opted to pour it 6" thick which seems to have worked. Our winter temps go down to below zero F. and summers can hot 95F.

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Thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better about this job but I still have two concerns. I cannot believe a surface stain applied two days after a pour will have the same longevity as something done at the same time as the pour/stamping process. The other issue is all the splashes on the house. Do you guys think this will clean up?
 

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I would reach out to the contractor with both of your ( valid) concerns.
the concrete splatter will be a pain to clean , that should be on them, not you/
what colour are they doing, it looks like there may have been some grey added to the mix
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better about this job but I still have two concerns. I cannot believe a surface stain applied two days after a pour will have the same longevity as something done at the same time as the pour/stamping process. The other issue is all the splashes on the house. Do you guys think this will clean up?
The secondary color (release color) is a powder that gets randomly throw onto very green concrete before stamping. What is on your house looks to be the release color and will wash off. I think you will see your crew come back and hose off the house and concrete release color (powder) and seal it. I think you will end up fine with the whole job, house may need a little scrubbing after everything is sealed and dry. That is a nice slate pattern you have there.
 
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This is my daughter and son in law’s house. I have not seen it in person. Now I find out the color is on there a light slate I think. The contractor is there now power washing so I hope it cleans up. It’s just not the way I do things I guess. Time will tell. Thanks for the responses.
 
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Wow, 10 years and the forms are still in place.




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Ha ha, old photos. Concrete was $90 a yard back then. I'm getting ready to start a new shop building in a few months. Concrete is $190 a yard now and I need 60 yards 😭
 

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Daughter and son in law had a patio poured today. It was stamped with the pattern they wanted. Nice day maybe 65 degree high. The schedule is cut tomorrow and I assume remove forms . (The forms are still on) Then color the next day. I always thought strip forms and cut same day if poured early in the day, this was finished by noon. Color or dye during the stamping process. Does this sound like these guys know what they are doing? By the way they really splashed the house and it is still on there now. To me it I don’t think they know what they are doing.
And naturally the boss is not on site.
This sounds exactly how mine went 8-9 years ago. It all turned out great and still looks good.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better about this job but I still have two concerns. I cannot believe a surface stain applied two days after a pour will have the same longevity as something done at the same time as the pour/stamping process. The other issue is all the splashes on the house. Do you guys think this will clean up?


I have a couple of pads poured and stamped the same color, stamps and process as yours. They are over 20 years old now and one has some surface spalling, the other still looks fine. You should be good. Pressure washer cleans it all up.
 

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340Redcoupe how did the stamped walk project turn out. By now it should have been washed, cut and sealed. Hopefully it looks nice.
 
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They are happy with it. I will see it today. They are not as critical as I am, by doing most things myself I look at other peoples work with a questioning attitude.
 
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340RedCoupe

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Well I saw the finished job yesterday and it looked good. They are happy with it so that is all counts. Thanks for all all the input and comments this is a good place to come for knowledge.
 

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Glad to hear it worked out well. To maintain good color, it will need to be resealed every two years. Use a good solvent based clear sealer like Luster seal 350. The folks that did the stamp work usually offer re sealing also, if not they will know who does in the area. If you are in a area that gets snow, hand shovel the walk only with a plastic edge snow shovel. Any metal edged items will hurt the surface. Do not power wash the walk, it will take off the sealer and wash out the release color (secondary powdered color). Treat it good and it will last many years.

 
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I ran into the same issue laying stamp patterns in hotter temps—stuff was drying too fast. What helped was switching up the timing with the release agent and working in smaller pours. I also found that the concrete release agent price can vary a lot depending on color additives and whether it’s powdered or liquid, so shop around before buying in bulk.
 
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