Standing Seam Installer around Annapolis MD

[ducatithunder]

I've gotten a couple bids for having standing seam installed on my detached garage. Does anyone have a recommendation or leads on metal roof installer in the surrounding area?

The roof dimensions are roughly 33x50 with a 1/12 pitch. Its a shed/mono pitch style roof design. I have material quoted from ABC Metal at around $4K delivered to the site. Its a snap lock design with all the trim and fasteners. The cheapest quote I could find locally as around $22K installed. Its a pretty straight forward install with the roof design but I don't really want to have to haul 33ft x 16" panels up onto the roof to be perfectly honest. Im looking for a quote somewhere in between my cost and the $22K bid.

Any leads or advice is appreciated.

 

[12husky]

Andy Ruff at Ruff Roofers from Kent Island. Does great work.


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[Showkey]

Part of the problem .........roofers like to supply the material. They make profit on the material.........but..........also they are not caught in the middle 5-10 years down the road when there’s a problem or claim. Kinda like car repair shop when the customer brings in rock auto discount parts for install.

This especially true with roofers with certified installers and material warranties.

 

[sberry]

Show some pics.

 

[ducatithunder]

Understood on the warranty and liability. The $4K would be my cost and my labor installing vs $22K having a contractor do it all, ie material and labor ... and somewhat of a warranty. I know the standing seam is more then the typical shingle roof but in my area it appears to be more inflated.

Here are some pics of the garage. 28x46. Single 18ft door with side entry. 12ft rear wall with 14ft front. Area not sheathed with have 16mm polycarb 5 wall sheet installed for light.

 

[ducatithunder]

Andy Ruff at Ruff Roofers from Kent Island. Does great work.


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Thanks. I spoke with them today. Should be out in a couple days to take a look.

 

[Showkey]

Understood on . I know the standing seam is more then the typical shingle roof but in my area it appears to be more inflated.
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Just went through this and in my area with roof replacement .........standing seam was coming in at 3 times the cost of a premium shingle roof. Shingle was $20k and standing seam was $60k.

 

[ducatithunder]

Just went through this and in my area with roof replacement .........standing seam was coming in at 3 times the cost of a premium shingle roof. Shingle was $20k and standing seam was $60k.

Did you have a complex roof or steep pitch?

 

[yeldogt]

1/12 is almost flat ...... did you check the specification ?

Most of the snap systems need more slope ... I was told 4/12. Also -- higher seam height if snow.

With the low slope -- will it be visible?

 

[yeldogt]

Just went through this and in my area with roof replacement .........standing seam was coming in at 3 times the cost of a premium shingle roof. Shingle was $20k and standing seam was $60k.

True standing is extremely expensive today because of the labor -- and fewer doing it. In my area it was always near the cost of cedar ... now much more.

 

[ducatithunder]

1/12 is almost flat ...... did you check the specification ?

Most of the snap systems need more slope ... I was told 4/12. Also -- higher seam height if snow.

With the low slope -- will it be visible?

The hidden fastener system I was looking at was rated for 1/12 and another snap lock was for .25/12 pitch. It will be visible from the road above the garage. My house which is about 200 feet way is only 13ft tall at the peak. That is what set my initial height. It was a compromise between having plenty of room for a lift, a modern roof, and the clear story that was appealing to the eye with plenty of nature light .... all without looking like a large commercial building.


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[Spook001]

You really must have got a great deal on matieral. I just priced the panels out at Menards website, that roof, just the panels would be 13500. Not including any trim, screws, underlayment, Advil. I’ve done a couple of metal roofs, I’d not want to handle 33 ft panels by myself. That snap lock system is pretty time consuming. Standing a 33 ft panel on end probably won’t work, and with any wind, difficult. The price still seems cheap. Menards is the cheapest place for metal roofs around here.

 

[Spook001]

Metal roofs require a bit more in labor, basically more skill. You screw up a shingle, no big deal. Cut a panel wrong, it might be $100, plus time to get a replacement. Metal roofs here go for about 2 to 3x a shingle roof.

I screwed up my numbers, your price is about right.

 

[ducatithunder]

You really must have got a great deal on matieral. I just priced the panels out at Menards website, that roof, just the panels would be 13500. Not including any trim, screws, underlayment, Advil. I’ve done a couple of metal roofs, I’d not want to handle 33 ft panels by myself. That snap lock system is pretty time consuming. Standing a 33 ft panel on end probably won’t work, and with any wind, difficult. The price still seems cheap. Menards is the cheapest place for metal roofs around here.

Maybe ... I attached a copy of the quote from Best Buy Metals. 26ga 16" standing seam hidden fastener panel. I saw they quote 30'3" instead of 33'. Original quote worked out to about $1.62/sqft. I do have the lifting tools at my disposal and a 46' man lift. Those would make it alot more manageable and less stressful.

If it comes down to hiring a couple guys Im sure the $16K discount will be worth the effort.

 

[BillK]

Give these guys a call:

https://randdcross.com/

I priced standing seam from them a few years back and they were very reasonable. I did not price installation because I was going to do it myself at the time. I ended up with asphalt shingles to match the house.

 

[ducatithunder]

Metal roofs require a bit more in labor, basically more skill. You screw up a shingle, no big deal. Cut a panel wrong, it might be $100, plus time to get a replacement. Metal roofs here go for about 2 to 3x a shingle roof.

I screwed up my numbers, your price is about right.

I hear you. I had to hand cut the rafter ends on all those I joists. I messed up one which ended up being cut up as blocking @ $1.50 LF. Im not looking forward to having to hand hem all those panels.

 

[ducatithunder]

Give these guys a call:

https://randdcross.com/

I priced standing seam from them a few years back and they were very reasonable. I did not price installation because I was going to do it myself at the time. I ended up with asphalt shingles to match the house.

Will do. Thanks!

 

[yeldogt]

The hidden fastener system I was looking at was rated for 1/12 and another snap lock was for .25/12 pitch. It will be visible from the road above the garage. My house which is about 200 feet way is only 13ft tall at the peak. That is what set my initial height. It was a compromise between having plenty of room for a lift, a modern roof, and the clear story that was appealing to the eye with plenty of nature light .... all without looking like a large commercial building.


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Interesting -- when I was looking a few years ago .... nothing was that low w/ snow. Can you give me names? Thanks.

 

[ducatithunder]

Interesting -- when I was looking a few years ago .... nothing was that low w/ snow. Can you give me names? Thanks.

Best Buy Metals.

 

[yeldogt]

Best Buy Metals.

Got it -- That low slope roof requires a 3" seam height and the panels have "jogs" at each end ... it's really a commercial 24" roof. I find them very busy -- but in your application it's not going to present the same as would on a typical highly visible roof.

The other is 1 3/4 .. that's a better looking roof .. especially with the flat panel.


True DLSS needs heavy gauge panels to eliminate the oil canning -- it's also typically only 1" seam ... makes for a quiet looking roof.

 

[ducatithunder]

Got it -- That low slope roof requires a 3" seam height and the panels have "jogs" at each end ... it's really a commercial 24" roof. I find them very busy -- but in your application it's not going to present the same as would on a typical highly visible roof.

The other is 1 3/4 .. that's a better looking roof .. especially with the flat panel.


True DLSS needs heavy gauge panels to eliminate the oil canning -- it's also typically only 1" seam ... makes for a quiet looking roof.

The roof I had them quote was the 1 3/4" standing seam. With solid decking I can do 1/12 pitch. It is factory sealed in the groove. I spoke with them. The entire roof is sealed with HT Wip 300. I did not care for the 24" trapezoidal roof your referencing. It was very busy.

 

[yeldogt]

Not the best picture -- here is my current project. That's a true standing seam roof -- Zinc (not painted). 28' long -- most of the roof has 16' panels and those long ones are 22. The panels are fit with wise for the roof -- 1" seam. The other side has a bump out -- so that side of the building is a little more complex

It was a bit over 30k --- The vent hood and boiler/plumbing vents in Zinc plus the extra work for the bump out added at least 7k ... my guess is just covering the roof was in the 2k per square range. The zinc gutter were expensive.

There are fewer and fewer people around that can do it

 

[sberry]

I had a tractor to hem mine, its 6400 ft. If it was closer I would quote it.

 

[bradpac]

I can't speak to an installer in the area, but I have worked for a metal roofing manufacturer for 15 years now down here in Texas.

1-3/4" snap lock with sealant in the laps and high temp ice and water shield should be good on a 1:12 slope. Being a single slope with no valleys or hips or anything you should be fine. Make sure they put butyl tape at the Zee bar for the peak cap so nothing can blow under it, but otherwise there's no need for a taller panel on that simple of a roof with runs that short. Make sure they also intend to do the panels all in one continuous run and not have endlaps in the panels, there should be no reason they can't ship panels or run them on site in the length you need, endlaps are the biggest spots for leaks on a low slope like this.

That's a pretty sweet looking shop, I wish you luck with the install and getting it all finished up.

 

[ducatithunder]

I can't speak to an installer in the area, but I have worked for a metal roofing manufacturer for 15 years now down here in Texas.

1-3/4" snap lock with sealant in the laps and high temp ice and water shield should be good on a 1:12 slope. Being a single slope with no valleys or hips or anything you should be fine. Make sure they put butyl tape at the Zee bar for the peak cap so nothing can blow under it, but otherwise there's no need for a taller panel on that simple of a roof with runs that short. Make sure they also intend to do the panels all in one continuous run and not have endlaps in the panels, there should be no reason they can't ship panels or run them on site in the length you need, endlaps are the biggest spots for leaks on a low slope like this.

That's a pretty sweet looking shop, I wish you luck with the install and getting it all finished up.

Thanks for the advice. Thats is what I have been told, good to have confirmation.

Thank you for the kind words. Its been a long journey but coming to the home stretch.