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This however buys them time to survive past July, which was in question with suppliers backing out and them hemorrhaging cash. They needed to make it until the end of July before bankruptcy to keep the SEC from launching an investigation regarding the loans/collateral offered by Lampert.

Kenmore is next...
SOMEBODY needs to investigate Sears management. I'd have figured that would fall to the stockholders. Thus the problem of major investors running the company--no-one can stop the trainwreck. The investor/manager makes money from the destruction and plundering of the company.

A few possibilities:

1) Apex Tools makes many foreign Craftsman tools. Stanley drops Apex, and starts making those same items in the USA.

2) Western Forge makes many USA Craftsman tools. Stanley drops WF, and starts making those same items on their own in the USA.

3) WF continues manufacturing USA Craftsman tools for Sears, but Stanley makes new versions of those same items to supply other retailers.
Stanley delivers a blow to their competitors (Apex and Ideal and maybe some others) by depriving those competitors of the Craftsman manufacturing business (at least once the contracts in place expire). How they position the brand is anyone's guess. The optimists on this board could envision a hole in the Stanley product spectrum, at least for hand tools, that would be a competitor to S&K (though as S&K's pricing goes up, Proto starts to look better).
I am more concerned for the myriad of smaller suppliers (Wilde Tool, Lang, Imperial/Stride, Vaughan & Bushnell) for whom the Craftsman brand was their major, sometimes sole, vessel into the broader consumer space and Stanley Black & Decker will quickly identify overlap with. This is going to be a massive loss for Western Forge and parent company Ideal Industries.
I think this is very bad news for the current group of Craftsman suppliers. I hope Ideal and the rest of them have long-term contracts. I'd hate to see Ideal sell to Stanley.

What they do with snow blowers, lawn mowers, drill presses, planers, ect. is anyone's guess.
Sears sold only the lawn power tool name in Craftsman, Sears still has the Craftsman hand tool name to sell
The way the news article was written in my hometown paper, it seems that Stanley mostly wants the lawn/garden side of Crapsman. The hand tools was merely a bonus I don't know how Stanley will handle the lawn/garden side of the business, but I'm sure it will involve cheapening the line some more as soon as the existing contracts are over. They'd better be creative. When I went shopping for a snow blower, all Sears had was unmitigated junk. And that was ten years ago. (I bought an Ariens.)

Now is the time to buy up all the chinese craftsman for pennies and swap it out for USA made after the takeover is complete.
Hopefully, this will mean that when I break the Chinese made replacements Sears gave me when my original USA pieces broke, will be USA again.
Yeah...right. Stanley has a reputation of offshoring and cheapening all of it's brands. Even Mac and Proto aren't what they used to be. You think they're going to push Crapsman upmarket?

Interesting to note that my local Sears store for the last 6 months has been undergoing a large scale expansion / upgrade, including adding on floor space and switching over to all LED lighting and solar panels on the roof and all new touch screen computer check out terminals and customer price check displays, and a big 'we're hiring' push. They have signs at every entrance detailing all the upgrades and say that they've hired over 100 people so far and are still looking for more.

You'd never know the troubles Sears is having at that store.
We can hope that the store is just plain successful. My suspicion is that they've hired 100 part-timers who know nothing to replace thirty full-timers with viable experience.

Of course, I could be wrong. Sears probably doesn't have thirty full-timers.

I don't see Stanley suddenly give the consumers higher quality at equal or lower price. Too high end, Craftsman will jeopardize Proto and Mac. Too low end, Craftsman will end up replacing the garbage at Walmart. Either way, there will be some changes, so we better ****** all the good stuff currently offered by Craftsman (like the pry bars).
Not a bad examination. Thanks for that. "All the good stuff" would be what? About six items? Maybe?

If I wanted "USA made with foreign parts" drill, I would just get a DeWalt drill. I have no interest in Craftsman power tools especially if I can't have the same accessibility as the network of Home Depot and Lowe's.
I remember when Black and Decker was a respected name. They drove it into the ground, then had to position Dewalt as the "premium" line...which they then drove into the ground. Crapsman will be no different.

Stanley will screw this up like they have previous brands. Stanley should stick to Tape Measures. Dewalt is no longer "trade" trusted. Just bought Irwin and Lennox from Newell and have already screwed that up. Does anyone remember what they did to the Goldblatt and American Brush brands? As a Manufacture's Rep I like this because they'll put Craftsman in the grave that Sears has already dug.
Yes. Stanley/Black and Decker cannot be trusted. Well, they can be trusted to ****-up a formerly good brand name by driving it downmarket.

When I was a kid back in the 60s, dad used to drive us to Simpson Sears... ....Back then, if you wanted tools, you went straight to Simpson Sears and bought Craftsman stuff (made in the US of course).
I spent some time in Winterpeg, MB about fifteen years ago. Went to the Simpson Sears, and was surprised--and strangely pleased--to see Craftsman tools made in Canada. Tool boxes, too, if I'm remembering right. I thought it was so nice (and appropriate!) that Canadian customers bought Canadian products, while American customers got American (and the beginnings of offshored junk) products.






My take on this: Sears sold Craftsman on "fire sale" terms to avoid problems with US Government investigations into management methods. Apparently, Sears has to survive past July. You can expect the other two names--Die Hard and Kenmore--to suffer the same fate if the cash gets tight before then. This has been planned-for for years, which is why the only three brand names Sears had with any value were pushed into a separate subsidiary corporation. How much would anyone pay for the Evolv brand name? Thirty cents?

Stanley Black and Decker will not care for the hand-tool business any better than Sears did. They wanted the Lawn/Garden segment, and took the rest as a package deal. Stanley has a piss-poor reputation; that reputation will exactly predict what happens to Crapsman: Unless the US Government tightens the screws on ****** imports, Crapsman will continue to be ****** imports with a "MADE IN USAusing crappy ChiCom subassemblies" decal stuck on them. Stanley will make loud noises about USA production, but in terms of sales volume it will still be nearly-nothing. A 40% increase from near-zero is still near-zero.

Crapsman is still screwed. But it'll be available in more locations. Yay.
 
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Sears as we know it doesn't have to last 15 years. The holding company will exist long after all of the stores have closed, and will be receiving royalties from Stanley for years.

The purpose of the holding company is to break up the parts of Sears that have any value (the brands and the real estate) and sell them off at a rate that doesn't alarm the market too much.

Sears is like a broken-down car. As a whole, it has very little value. To a scrapper, the parts are worth much more than the car itself.

Stanley doesn't give a damn about the tools. Stanley has the ability to source any tool it wants at any level of quality. This isn't about the tools. This is about the Craftsman brand. Stanley figures that it can put the Craftsman brand on a lot of stuff, and sell it at a lot more places than Sears did, and that will generate revenue that justifies the purchase price.

The name "Craftsman" has brand equity. It has a value. That means a tool with the Craftsman name can sell for more than one with "Wong Mfg. Co." stamped on the handle. That's Stanley's primary concern here. The tool quality won't improve because this isn't about making better tools. Stanley already makes better tools and sells them under other brand names with their own brand equity.

Stanley is a tool company buying a poorly-managed tool brand. Stanley will take a product line that, over the last few decades, has become a hodge-podge of random ****, sourced from a thousand different manufacturers, and will consolidate that sourcing to save money because as a tool company, Stanley knows better than Sears how to manufacture, market and sell tools.

Stanley may honor the warranty now, but how easy will it be to get yourself a new ratchet when there are no Sears stores left? And when your ratchet came in a set from Bed Bath and Beyond, they won't take the plastic off of another set and give you a new ratchet. The only way to get it fixed is to ship it off somewhere and wait for it to come back, will anybody do that? No.

It's easy to put a warranty on a tool when you know that at that price point, most people will just chuck the broken ones and buy new. And the more tool brands you own, the more likely it is that their next tool will be purchased from you.
 

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This is a sad, but smart move for Sears.

Sears gets the cash and will still carry Craftsman tools. Craftsman quality can only go up, especially after being run by Stanley. Stanley plays for the home team, so that's a plus. 'Merica!

Craftsman goes to a good home.
 
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Sears as we know it doesn't have to last 15 years. The holding company will exist long after all of the stores have closed, and will be receiving royalties from Stanley for years.

Everyone here seems to be reading this as a licensing play where after 15 years, Stanley B&D will owe royalties to Sears. Are we sure it isn't the other way around? I've read a few things that make it look like for the next 15 years, Sears can sell all the "Craftsman" sweatshirts, toys, whatever else they put the name on, without paying royalties to Stanley for the name. After 15 years, if Sears is still around, they will owe a royalty to Stanley.
 
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Stanley made hand tools for craftsman for a long time. Sears makes none of their own stuff. It's all subbed out. I got a several tools over the years that had a sears part number but had Stanley on the handle. I returned it to the store for one that had craftsman so not to mess with the warranty later.

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Everyone here seems to be reading this as a licensing play where after 15 years, Stanley B&D will owe royalties to Sears. Are we sure it isn't the other way around? I've read a few things that make it look like for the next 15 years, Sears can sell all the "Craftsman" sweatshirts, toys, whatever else they put the name on, without paying royalties to Stanley for the name. After 15 years, if Sears is still around, they will owe a royalty to Stanley.
I read it that way as well, I should also say the price seems low but Sears really did devalue the brand in hopes of short term profits. As an 80s kid who grew up working on stuff with raised panel wrenches this sure is a sad day

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I am more concerned for the myriad of smaller suppliers (Wilde Tool, Lang, Imperial/Stride, Vaughan & Bushnell) for whom the Craftsman brand was their major, sometimes sole, vessel into the broader consumer space and Stanley Black & Decker will quickly identify overlap with. This is going to be a massive loss for Western Forge and parent company Ideal Industries.

SK Eric has spoken on this a few times. When Ideal purchased WF, they knew that they could not rely on Sears being in business. They ran WF accordingly and are more than prepared to continue without Sears. They've gained other contracts and expanded the companies they manufacture for to compensate when Sears goes under or when they loose the contract to manufacture certain Craftsman products.

Despite what many on this forum think, the people running Ideal aren't stupid, and they knew this scenario was approaching before they bought Western Forge.

Lang/Kastar and Imperial/Stride will probably be fine. They manufacturer for almost every US tool company and make numerous tools that there just is no competition for. Snap On, Mac, Matco, SK, Wright, Proto, etc all have items from them.

Not too sure on Wilde, I believe they only produce the pry bars for Sears. It's probably a steady source of revenue, but I doubt it's critical. May have to downsize a bit, but I believe Wilde is mostly industrial/military purchases, which is a fairly steady business.

I'd be more worried for Apex. Apex will survive, but they have a few factories dedicated to just Craftsman (at least 2 in China I know). Probably will have significant cutbacks, although mostly in overseas personnel and factories.

Plus, all of these companies still have the remainders of their contracts with Sears to fulfill. That's a few years (most likely) of that steady income for them to prepare for no longer manufacturing for Sears- if they have not already been preparing for that like Ideal/WF.
 

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Yeah...right. Stanley has a reputation of offshoring and cheapening all of it's brands. Even Mac and Proto aren't what they used to be.

What's wrong with Proto? It's essentially the same stuff it has always been, with a few updates. It's still USA made and excellent quality. Mac is mostly just rebranded Proto, so the same thing applies there. Mac and Proto are great tools.

Stanley Black and Decker will not care for the hand-tool business any better than Sears did. They wanted the Lawn/Garden segment, and took the rest as a package deal. Stanley has a piss-poor reputation; that reputation will exactly predict what happens to Crapsman: Unless the US Government tightens the screws on ****** imports, Crapsman will continue to be ****** imports with a "MADE IN USAusing crappy ChiCom subassemblies" decal stuck on them. Stanley will make loud noises about USA production, but in terms of sales volume it will still be nearly-nothing. A 40% increase from near-zero is still near-zero.

SBD makes a hell of a lot in the USA still. Almost all Proto (with some France, italy, and a few other things from FACOM), Mac still also has a lot of USA (as most of it is just proto). They moved a lot of DeWalt production back to the USA (no, they aren't just assembling the tools here, there have been plenty of facility tours showing things like the motors being made here, not just imported and thrown in a plastic shell). Blackhawk is also a USA brand that SBD has kept around. SBD also has Irwin and Lenox, both of which produce a large amount in the USA (not all, but a fair amount). Your statements that by sales volume, nearly nothing is USA production is far from true.

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Everyone here seems to be reading this as a licensing play where after 15 years, Stanley B&D will owe royalties to Sears. Are we sure it isn't the other way around? I've read a few things that make it look like for the next 15 years, Sears can sell all the "Craftsman" sweatshirts, toys, whatever else they put the name on, without paying royalties to Stanley for the name. After 15 years, if Sears is still around, they will owe a royalty to Stanley.

Correct- As far as I understand it, Stanley owns the Craftsman name outright. Sears gets 15 years of using the Craftsman name for free and after 15 years, if Sears is still selling craftsman branded products, they have to pay Stanley royalties, since Stanley owns the name outright. Most of the articles are written so poorly that it makes it seem like Stanley is going to pay Sears royalties for a brand name they own!
 

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Reading 9 pages of this speculative nonsense and I have to ask, who cares? Let it go.

Some of us are old enough to remember a better America, where 'Solid as Sears" meant something, and we regret seeing yet another piece of that old, better America slip under the waves.
 
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Everyone here seems to be reading this as a licensing play where after 15 years, Stanley B&D will owe royalties to Sears. Are we sure it isn't the other way around? I've read a few things that make it look like for the next 15 years, Sears can sell all the "Craftsman" sweatshirts, toys, whatever else they put the name on, without paying royalties to Stanley for the name. After 15 years, if Sears is still around, they will owe a royalty to Stanley.

You're correct, 100%
 

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The Craftsman brand will survive - Lawn and garden stuff is probably the most valuable asset that Stanley's getting. I'm not so sure about the future of Craftsman hand tools.

I suspect that a lot of the Craftsman hand-tool discussion on this forum is from nostalgic Baby Boomers who were shade-tree mechanics when cars and appliances were a lot more user-servicable, and you could do a lot of routine maintenance and repair with basic hand tools. Not so many Millennials get under the hood of their cars, and the market for DIY mechanics' tools is probably shrinking. It'll be practically gone in a few years - there are no spark plugs to change or radiator hoses to replace in an electric car.
 

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Who says the smaller companies will suffer? If those companies entered into exclusive contracts for Craftsman brand, they might now be able to widen their sales by re-branding under other names Stanley owns...

Like we said before, Sears/Craftsman doesn't really make any of it's tools, other companies do. Now rather than have to negotiate as separate entities and pay royalties and such when they are all under one conglomerate some of that red tape and overhead is removed.

I don't expect the basic Craftsman tools to switch back from China to USA. Then everyone would be taking their stuff back wanting to exchange and it would be chaos. If Stanley does want to increase USA production they will push more with the CMan Professional & Industrial lines that were always 'Made in USA' products...

Or they will come out with other lines like the "Evo" or whatever they call those tools that I walk by and don't even give a glance...

Seeing how Stanley, B&D, Mac, Proto, DeWalt, and others are all under one company and their lines have stayed separate, I don't see why adding Craftsman will make it suddenly disappear. It's a very established brand that has been known by homeowners many generations. But with all the competition if they really start to produce an inferior product people will jump ship to another brand that is either cheaper & still offers lifetime warranty, or more expensive but doesn't break...
 

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The Craftsman brand will survive - Lawn and garden stuff is probably the most valuable asset that Stanley's getting. I'm not so sure about the future of Craftsman hand tools.

All the power equipment Craftsman sells though is made by other companies like Poulan, Murray, Snapper, etc... Why couldn't Stanley just gone to those companies and had them make the same products and slap the B&D logo on them like they currently have?
 

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Unless the US Government tightens the screws on ****** imports, Crapsman will continue to be ****** imports with a "MADE IN USAusing crappy ChiCom subassemblies" decal stuck on them. Stanley will make loud noises about USA production, but in terms of sales volume it will still be nearly-nothing. A 40% increase from near-zero is still near-zero.

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Sears as we know it doesn't have to last 15 years. The holding company will exist long after all of the stores have closed, and will be receiving royalties from Stanley for years.

I also interpret this as Sears will be paying Stanley royalties to use the brand after 15 years, not the other way around.


The purpose of the holding company is to break up the parts of Sears that have any value (the brands and the real estate) and sell them off at a rate that doesn't alarm the market tooQUOTE]

As far as real-estate holdings, they were mostly dispersed of about a year or 2 ago and this topic was well discussed in threads here on GJ. Sears CEO Eddie Lambert secured some 750 million in bad debt with much of the real-estate on the line (as parrothead referenced above). At the time sears real-estate holdings were being rolled into Seritage, a holding company Lambert is chairman of the board of. A deal that could even trump Donald's business moves. His fingers are into too many pies to run for president though. Wiki has a brief summary of his rise here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lampert
 
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I thought HF would buy Crafsman and make it their premium brand. With Stanley, Craftsman will probably be slightly above Stanley brand. With Sears gone in a year or so, Craftsman brand will be sold in Walmart. Walmart will be pushing for low cost which mean low quality.
 

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Some of us are old enough to remember a better America, where 'Solid as Sears" meant something, and we regret seeing yet another piece of that old, better America slip under the waves.

Yeah, I'm one of those "some of us". I feel the same way, but it's never going to be like that again. I'm a realist.
 

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Stanley/B&D also has the Bostich brand.

I have a set of sockets that I am fairly happy with.

Anything is possible. The one good thing is as bad as it gets with import Chinese tools, at least they are not as bad as they used to be.
 

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wal mart must have a really good crystal ball
because coincidentally every walmart knew to expand their tool section to include all the latest Stanley and black & decker tools
to resemble my local sears store.

maybe i can get my craftsmen tools warrantied at Montgomery wards or woolco ..sarcasm
 
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Sears sold only the lawn power tool name in Craftsman, Sears still has the Craftsman hand tool name to sell

Is that true? Where did you see that?

Hmm, I just scoured several articles, but I'm not seeing that anywhere (yet?).

I did see that Stanley just bought the Newell Tools division last month for 1.95 billion, more than twice as much as what they just got Craftsman for. I don't know how I missed that. Newell gives Stanley brands such as Irwin, Lenox, Hilmor, & Dymo.
 
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I doubt HF could afford Craftsman. Besides, the whole house brand thing isn't their bag. Everything's a different brand in there: Pittsburgh, US General, Daytona, Chicago Electric, Central Pneumatic, etc. Even with all of their (ironically mostly all named after USA places) everyone will always refer to their tools as Harbor Freight this, Harbor Freight that. And like I said before, I don't think Harbor Freight and Sears are really competitors. Sears competes with Lowe's and Home Depot but just so happens to still sell clothing and jewelry for some reason.


As far as Walmart, at least the ones close by don't seem to invest in much of a tool section. As someone else alluded to, I could see the Craftsman name replacing Blackhawk or something like that. Somewhere between Proto and Stanley branded stuff. Sold at Lowe's/HD, and online on Amazon.
 

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I don't see what advantage it would be for walmart to carry both Craftsman & Stanley... Walmart really limits space and wants to push product through as fast as possible...

FYI, I live just down the street from walmart headquarters. I go shopping literally at the walmart store that is across the street from corporate. All the vendors are here and they are constantly in the store. If Craftsman ever makes it on the shelves, it will probably be in that store first and I will be sure to let everyone know... lol.

Who know though, it's not like Stanley could push hand tools into Lowes & Home Depot... They would have no reason to want to compete with their own Husky & Cobalt brands. Though when I was looking at Husky products today, so many of them looked virtually identical to Craftsman & GearWrench stuff anyhow.
 

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a walmart super store has now devoted 3 to 4 isles to stanley and black and decker tools .
alot more tools than walmart has stocked in the past / ever.

if craftsmen was bought by stanley black & decker... it would be a plus.for walmart

most tools in walmart are now under lock and key glass case now and must be hand carried by an employee to the check out now
and cannot just be placed in your cart while you shop .until you are ready to wait in the world's longest , slowest check out line reminiscent of your local dmv.. in order to check out.

always 85 to 100 check out isles in walmart and only 5 of them open at any one time.
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henry ford would be proud...sarcasm
 
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most tools in walmart are now under lock and key glass case now and must be hand carried by an employee to the check out now and cannot just be placed in your cart while you shop .until you are ready to wait in the world's longest , slowest check out line reminiscent of your local dmv.. in order to check out.

always 85 to 100 check out isles in walmart and only 5 of them open at any one time.

Man, there are NO tools under lock & key at ours... I find that kind of stuff just varies by location based on how much theft they have. One walmart I went to in a ghetto area of Houston had so many things behind glass and those protective things that will sound an alarm if the cord is removed / cut it was just crazy. It wasn't too surprising though since I thought I was going to get carjacked in the parking lot before I even made it into the store! LOL...

Yeah this walmart across from corporate is a totally different animal than every other walmart I've been to... Products are actually IN STOCK, associates are around every corner and asking if they can help, plenty of cashiers in the checkout lanes, though I usually prefer to go to the self-checkout area which there are at least a dozen of those. Heck, they even have self-checkout in the garden area (along with a couple regular checkout lanes). It's the Cadillac of Walmart, that's for sure... But if you go late at night, you still get all the crazies coming out of the woodwork wandering the store... lol
 

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Yeah there's no tools under lock and key at any walmart near me. In fact, most of the full size wallyworlds around here (as opposed to the 'neighborhood markets' popping up everywhere) have given Stanley a larger footprint in their tool depts lately. They now have new displays selling individual sockets and wrenches instead of just the full sets like they used to have. And they are not locked behind a glass display.

Someone else here mentioned the same at walmarts near them and posted a picture in a thread recently. Search failed me though.
 

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SK Eric has spoken on this a few times. When Ideal purchased WF, they knew that they could not rely on Sears being in business. They ran WF accordingly and are more than prepared to continue without Sears. They've gained other contracts and expanded the companies they manufacture for to compensate when Sears goes under or when they loose the contract to manufacture certain Craftsman products.

Ideal was obviously prepared for this to happen but the number of customers for Western Forge is dwindling as more brands are acquired and merged. Just looking at pliers, I cannot think of any substantial company Western Forge supplies to outside of Craftsman and Ideal's own SK. Wilde secured contracts with Stanley-Proto and Armstrong while most of the tool truck brands have either invested in their own production or went overseas. Western Forge obviously produces more than just pliers and continues to supply adjustable wrenches and pipe wrenches to a number of clients but the further consolidation of tool brands is worrying.

I feel like Western Forge is destined to become just a manufacturing arm of SK.

Lang/Kastar and Imperial/Stride will probably be fine. They manufacturer for almost every US tool company and make numerous tools that there just is no competition for. Snap On, Mac, Matco, SK, Wright, Proto, etc all have items from them.

Not too sure on Wilde, I believe they only produce the pry bars for Sears. It's probably a steady source of revenue, but I doubt it's critical. May have to downsize a bit, but I believe Wilde is mostly industrial/military purchases, which is a fairly steady business.

Some of my concern is for general consumer access to those tools rather than the literal survival of the manufacturers. Lang, Imperial/Stride and Lisle all deal in specialty tools and probably find good margins through tool trucks and government contractors. Wilde is the odd one out since they began supplying to Tekton (MIT) which has been gaining traction in brick-and-mortar stores.
 

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Re: Sears sells Craftsman brand to Stanley for about $900 million

It will be interesting to see where this goes. Stanley runs the full gambit of quailty from the imported Stanley line to their flagship brands mac and proto.

Yep, also Stanley/B&D owns DeWalt, so they can leverage their power tool expertise/supply channels to spruce up their Craftsman power tool lineup.

I think it's a great acquisition for Stanley.
 

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Craftsman sold to Stanley/B&D- good or bad?

Just read some news that Sears has unloaded the Craftsman brand to Stanley / Black and Decker. They mentioned that Stanley will be increasing their American work force in order to ramp up production.
I'm wondering:
1. What's going to happen the lifetime guarantee on current craftsman tools?
2. What's quality going to be like with their USA built tools from here on?
3. Pricing of new tools under Stanley.

The article stated that Sears will continue to sell Craftsman but we all know Sears is hanging on by their finger tips.
Wanted to get some other peoples thoughts on this....
 

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I don't see what advantage it would be for walmart to carry both Craftsman & Stanley... Walmart really limits space and wants to push product through as fast as possible...

FYI, I live just down the street from walmart headquarters. I go shopping literally at the walmart store that is across the street from corporate. All the vendors are here and they are constantly in the store. If Craftsman ever makes it on the shelves, it will probably be in that store first and I will be sure to let everyone know... lol.

Who know though, it's not like Stanley could push hand tools into Lowes & Home Depot... They would have no reason to want to compete with their own Husky & Cobalt brands. Though when I was looking at Husky products today, so many of them looked virtually identical to Craftsman & GearWrench stuff anyhow.

Wow, you have access to the best Wally World in the world. Ha.

Lowe's and HD probably don't care what brands they sell, as long as the profit margins are sufficient. There is a certain percentage of people who see Husky and Cobalt as being **** and would never buy it, but they see Craftsman as "the quality brand I grew up with. Dad used CM tools to fix the family car and the lawnmower."
 

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Re: Craftsman sold to Stanley/B&D- good or bad?

It's too late, IMO.

Swapping out 35 year old wrenches, will still be a profit killer. The quality will be just like everyone else - passable. Pricing will be competitive.
 

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Re: Craftsman sold to Stanley/B&D- good or bad?

Craftsman has nowhere to go but up.

There's still a LOT worse quality out there (think Autozone tools or Napa Evercraft)... but paying good money for a brand name so you could stamp it on that would be a real waste.

I don't care for SBD myself, but I do doubt they'll make it any worse than it's been.
 

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Re: Craftsman sold to Stanley/B&D- good or bad?

Sad to see, but hopefully they treat them like DeWalt, not Stanley or B&D tools...keep the quality there. I'm guessing their cordless tools will quickly become 20v.
 

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This is all very interesting, but i didnt see any of the articles even mention hand tools, only yard and garden stuff. Maybe they will die with sears?
 

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