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muddyjoe15

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Sorry bout that responded before you changed it. I would go with the stanley set, you get a better ratchet and more sockets for less money! Those raised panel craftsman ratchets are gettin to be real P.O.S.

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Thanks. This site is full of resources (almost too much info to browse through).

People seem to say Craftsman is the best tool, with the warranty by Sears etc.
 

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I guess it all comes down to what you plan to do with them. My ideal general kit would be the 3/8 sk kit because it has both standard and metric regular and deep sockets. 99% of the time if we are wrenching on anything at my buddies house, this is the first thing we grab.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002NYCJU/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Problem is... it isn't made anymore and the price has jumped.

That said, I keep a craftsman 154 piece set in my truck toolbox and has served me well when I'm not around home.
 

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Thanks. This site is full of resources (almost too much info to browse through).

People seem to say Craftsman is the best tool, with the warranty by Sears etc.

Yes as far as warrenty goes they are pretty much the easiest usa made tool to warrenty. The problem with there raised panel ratchets is the slop in the gears. If they would tighten the tolerances back up it one be one great ratchet. If not for the ratchet that set would be nice, but it could use a few more sockets for automotive repair.

I guess it all comes down to what you plan to do with them. My ideal general kit would be the 3/8 sk kit because it has both standard and metric regular and deep sockets. 99% of the time if we are wrenching on anything at my buddies house, this is the first thing we grab.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002NYCJU/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Problem is... it isn't made anymore and the price has jumped.

That said, I keep a craftsman 154 piece set in my truck toolbox and has served me well when I'm not around home.

That is a very nice set! I hope ideal keeps the sk name in good shape. It would be a shame for sk to go wayside like other american tool companys.
 

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For 240 bucks I would go buy a 250-300 craftsman set. You will get so much more for your money and it will a great base to work off of.
 

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For 240 bucks I would go buy a 250-300 craftsman set. You will get so much more for your money and it will a great base to work off of.

The point of the post was not about price, it was about suggesting a general starter kit. Step 1, find what you like first. Step 2, find the best price. If I didn't load up with SO tools the past few weeks, I would have grabbed this set too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SK-9...441322QQ_trksidZp5197Q2em7QQitemZ250805151182
 

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Depending on the age and make of car I wouldn't bother getting one with SAE sockets
 
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Yes as far as warrenty goes they are pretty much the easiest usa made tool to warrenty. The problem with there raised panel ratchets is the slop in the gears. If they would tighten the tolerances back up it one be one great ratchet. If not for the ratchet that set would be nice, but it could use a few more sockets for automotive repair.

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I guess I could buy a different ratchet. Any recommendation? I'd prefer to buy with long handle to apply more torque.

I can always buy the sockets separately.

I have a 2002 Honda.
 

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I guess I could buy a different ratchet. Any recommendation? I'd prefer to buy with long handle to apply more torque.

I can always buy the sockets separately.

I have a 2002 Honda.

10,12,14,17,19,36 mm ... Phillips, Crank pulley tool.... Pretty much all you need to work on that.
 

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I still recommend a 250+ piece set as a starter set and fill in the gaps with loose stock as needed. If you are new new I would also recommend a repair guide for your car.

Also it is good to have both SAE and MM because you never know what might come up whether it is putting something together or helping a friend. You can never have too many tools!
 
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10,12,14,17,19,36 mm ... Phillips, Crank pulley tool.... Pretty much all you need to work on that.

- I plan to buy to get the sockets from Sears.
- Philips? screw driver?
- Crank pulley tool - for what? I have a CR-V.

I'll order a S-K ratchet online then.

thanks for all your input.
 

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Wel you should have sockets and wrenches. If you buy a set you can sell the ratchets on line or something along those lines!
 
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- I plan to buy to get the sockets from Sears.
- Philips? screw driver?
- Crank pulley tool - for what? I have a CR-V.

I'll order a S-K ratchet online then.

thanks for all your input.

36 mm... Front axle on the Accord... Crank pulley tool is you ever do a water pump or timing belt.
 

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I may be coming out of left field here.....but hear me out. When I think about the things I used the most as a "starter," none of them are in either of those kits. I assume you wanna do things like oil changes, spark plugs, tire rotations, fuel filters, fluid changes. The basic, routine maintenance/preventative stuff.

If you want a true "starter kit" I would suggest a list that looks something more like this:

Oil Changes:
Filter Wrench
Set of Metric Wrenches
Funnel
Floor Jack
Jack Stands

Spark Plugs:
Ratchet
Set of Extensions
Spark Plug Socket
Gap Tool (your spark plugs may come pre-gapped. I dunno)

Tire Rotations:
Air Pressure Gauge
Air Chuck
Floor Jack
Jack Stands
Lug Wrench (4-Way or use whatever is in the car)

Belt:
Not that familiar with a honda. Maybe a serpentine belt tool is needed?

Fuel Filter
Again, not that familiar with a honda. Metric Line Wrenches, I assume

Brakes
This is where a honda guy might chime in:
Set of Metric Torx/Hex sockets (don't know which on a honda)
Bleeder Wrench
Small 3/8 Socket Set
Some kind of rear caliper tool
C-Clamp

Misc:
Wire Brush
Emery Cloth
Grease gun (does it have any greaseable suspension parts??? I dunno)
Screwdrivers (Especially a small flat screwdriver. I use that thing a LOT)
Towels. Lots of towels.
Fast orange/lava soap
WD-40 or Blaster or Kroil or whatever penetrating fluid
Eye protection
Gloves

My point is: The things I use the most, and the things that you need to do the "basic maintenance," you aren't gonna find in a plastic case of tools. You are gonna wind up with a bunch of sockets that you won't use and you will have to run to the store and buy the other "stuff" that you DO need to do basic work. A set of sockets is actually not the most important thing in my mind. Something to think about.
 
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pcpro15

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The OP originally quoted two sets that are less than $40. I think price does matter.

I was referring to baja's reply to my post being $240, not the OP's post. My second post showed a more acceptable price (130 first bid). I posted what I felt a minimum automotive "general" set should include (shallow & deep, metric & standard. While you think a less than $40 set would be nice for general automotive, that wouldn't cut it for me.

If price really was an issue, and you want that bare bones set, then settle for this....

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-MADE-ORIGIN...643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb29e74c3
 

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I got one of these http://www.harborfreight.com/professional-301-piece-mechanics-tool-kit-45951.html
after some thief took the box out of the back of my truck.
So far I have been happy, shallows, deeps and not many gaps in sizes. A good place to start without too many junk bits and allen wrenches to add to the tool count. Mostly real tools for about $.50 per tool.
Out the door with the 20% coupon was $155.00
 

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I got the craftsman 260 piece mechanics tool set for my first semester in automotive classes. It was a great starter tool set. I just needed to add screw drivers, pliers, and a ball peen and brass hammer.
 

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I may be coming out of left field here.....but hear me out. When I think about the things I used the most as a "starter," none of them are in either of those kits. I assume you wanna do things like oil changes, spark plugs, tire rotations, fuel filters, fluid changes. The basic, routine maintenance/preventative stuff.

If you want a true "starter kit" I would suggest a list that looks something more like this:

Oil Changes:
Filter Wrench
Set of Metric Wrenches
Funnel
Floor Jack
Jack Stands

Spark Plugs:
Ratchet
Set of Extensions
Spark Plug Socket
Gap Tool (your spark plugs may come pre-gapped. I dunno)

Tire Rotations:
Air Pressure Gauge
Air Chuck
Floor Jack
Jack Stands
Lug Wrench (4-Way or use whatever is in the car)

Belt:
Not that familiar with a honda. Maybe a serpentine belt tool is needed?

Fuel Filter
Again, not that familiar with a honda. Metric Line Wrenches, I assume

Brakes
This is where a honda guy might chime in:
Set of Metric Torx/Hex sockets (don't know which on a honda)
Bleeder Wrench
Small 3/8 Socket Set
Some kind of rear caliper tool
C-Clamp

Misc:
Wire Brush
Emery Cloth
Grease gun (does it have any greaseable suspension parts??? I dunno)
Screwdrivers (Especially a small flat screwdriver. I use that thing a LOT)
Towels. Lots of towels.
Fast orange/lava soap
WD-40 or Blaster or Kroil or whatever penetrating fluid
Eye protection
Gloves

My point is: The things I use the most, and the things that you need to do the "basic maintenance," you aren't gonna find in a plastic case of tools. You are gonna wind up with a bunch of sockets that you won't use and you will have to run to the store and buy the other "stuff" that you DO need to do basic work. A set of sockets is actually not the most important thing in my mind. Something to think about.


Great post!!!

I am pretty impressed with the HF tool kit!! looks like a ton of sockets.

The tool sets will come in very very handy you just never know when you will need and then it has paid itself off.
 

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Great post by farmmech86! Are you getting a job at a shop or just working on your CR-V only? Maintenance on a CR-V is very minimal, fluid changes (oil,trans,diffs if 4wd), filter changes (air, cabin only as there's no serviceable fuel filter on newer-ish Hondas), and occasional spark plug changes and brake jobs. Your CR-V should be the K-series engine, K20 or K24, can't remember now so you won't need to do timing belts as it is chain driven. 8,10,12,14,17,19,32,36 sockets and wrenches are a must for most Japanese imports and you could just about take the whole car apart. But you have to have the right combination of ratchets (fine teeth help tremendously) and extensions to be able to reach certain things. Ratcheting wrenches are very handy! I use my Gearwrench flex-head wrenches more than my Snap-On wrenches. If you plan on doing disc brakes on any Honda, you will need an impact driver to remove the #3 Phillips head screws holding the rotors to the hubs.

A good impact wrench (if you got access to a compressor).

One or two good ball-peen hammers

A set of Prybars

Line wrenches if you'll be replacing rear wheel cylinders. 10mm being the most common.

There's more...but I'm not feeling too well today. A basic HF set should be fine to start. Metric is used on just about everything nowadays, but SAE is still used elsewhere outside of the Automotive industry. It's good to have some standard tools for around the house jobs, like fixing your kids bike, haha! Use tools as they're intended and really they shouldn't break.
 

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If we've gone from Stanley to Craftsman to SK all the way back to HF I think the Crescent set that Costco sells is worth a mention. I have one that I keep in my trailer but it gets used quite often. It's got 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch ratchets, SAE/Metric standard and deep sockets plus extensions and wrenches. It also comes with some pliers and a multi bit driver. It's a pretty decent set of tools for a great price, especially for your intended use.

Adrien
 

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ratcheting wrenchs
you can pick up a full set @ northern for 90$ or get set of gear wrenchs at lowes(gear wrenchs are better imho)
just about killed off my need for ratchets and sockets, but on the cheap you can get a full set of metrics combo wrenchs @ HF for 17$, and thier 3/8 and 1/4 sets are good too. although i prefer northerns(danaher) very nice for the price and stand up to some punishment

really i would get some basics like the other guys said and work up from there, i got a big socket set, and only use 1/2 of the stuff that was in it
 

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I would start with two sears craftsman socket sets in 3/8 dr, one SAE and the other metric. See if they also have a nice set of extensions. Then I would order a standard handle ratchet and a long handle swivel head SK ratchet on line. Craftsman should also have a 1/4 dr set with both SAE and metric along with a ratchet in a small plastic box. I'd pick up one of those also.
 
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Great post by farmmech86! Are you getting a job at a shop or just working on your CR-V only? Maintenance on a CR-V is very minimal, fluid changes (oil,trans,diffs if 4wd), filter changes (air, cabin only as there's no serviceable fuel filter on newer-ish Hondas), and occasional spark plug changes and brake jobs. Your CR-V should be the K-series engine, K20 or K24, can't remember now so you won't need to do timing belts as it is chain driven. 8,10,12,14,17,19,32,36 sockets and wrenches are a must for most Japanese imports and you could just about take the whole car apart. But you have to have the right combination of ratchets (fine teeth help tremendously) and extensions to be able to reach certain things. Ratcheting wrenches are very handy! I use my Gearwrench flex-head wrenches more than my Snap-On wrenches. If you plan on doing disc brakes on any Honda, you will need an impact driver to remove the #3 Phillips head screws holding the rotors to the hubs.

A good impact wrench (if you got access to a compressor).

One or two good ball-peen hammers

A set of Prybars

Line wrenches if you'll be replacing rear wheel cylinders. 10mm being the most common.

There's more...but I'm not feeling too well today. A basic HF set should be fine to start. Metric is used on just about everything nowadays, but SAE is still used elsewhere outside of the Automotive industry. It's good to have some standard tools for around the house jobs, like fixing your kids bike, haha! Use tools as they're intended and really they shouldn't break.

Thank you and others for all for the input.

My 2002 CR-V has about 80K miles and I plan to do some maintenance on my own now instead of taking to the dealer. Yes it has the K24 engine with timing chain. I plan to do some simple fluid changes for now.

I bought a floor jack recently from Costco, and have a torque wrench and a Gorilla wrench. We have 2 sets of winter tires for our 2 cars, so 4 swaps of wheels/tires a year.
 

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that GW is a nice ratchet and can be upgraded to 88 tooth if you wish. you might also watch garage sales and pawn shop. i've been able to find SO dual 80 ratchets anywhere from $20 to $50. one final suggestion is Duralast from Auto Zone. good solid ratchets that are very well priced.
 

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That first stanley set you have listed would be better between the two. I changed my alternator, valve cover gaskets, egr tube, and starter on my infiniti with that same exact set and not much else.

For you honda get an 8, 10, 12, 14, 17, and 19mm sockets and wrenches. Drop an extra $20 for a decent longer flex head ratchet. Best advice, goto a flea market and piece together a kit, you should be able to find exactly what you need for a great price. Craftsman tools are EXTREMELY abundant at my local flea markets, cheap too, and they always have a lifetime warranty.
 

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i would add these on farmmech86:

flex ratchets
hammer
dead blow hammer
breaker bar
brake cleaner
tape measure
battery post cleaner
nitril/mechanic gloves
pliers
funnels
fluid pump
pry bars
 
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