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Starting A Tool Collection from Square One

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Imagine you are in your late twenties, just bought your first house, and had no tools of your own for basic, everyday projects/repairs that may pop up (You always just used what tools your dad had). You're on a budget but also understand the value and satisfaction in buying quality tools that will last a lifetime.

With all the overwhelming options out there and uncertainty of what to buy first, where would you begin?
 
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I actually started this exact process a few months ago. Still slowly adding pieces but I search ebay/amazon/craigslist regularly for deals. And try* not to buy unless it's on sale or a good price used
 

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If you have no immediate needs (say for work, etc) then don't make any specific plans. Garage/Yard/Estate sales are you best friend. No where will you find better deals on all sorts of household/shop tools. My only advise is to set a per-tool budget and avoid anything that is "Made in China". As for the budget, don't pay more than .50 per screwdriver, $1 per plier or wrench (unless really big), and not more than .25 per socket. You can go hog wild all summer long at those prices (or less).

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Basic multi bit screwdriver & hammer
A "mechanics" set blow mold with a variety of sockets and wrenches
And if possible a power tool set for home use the Ryobi @ Home Depot are inexpensive and work well, drill impacter, great addition as a homeowner.
 

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i do some price comparing before i buy anything.

"free shipping" isnt always free...

on clearance, and sale's.

despite popular belief, a lower priced tool isnt always junk, it's all in how much use you need it for.

i depend on my "working tools" to make money, my home stuff, not so much.


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First, avoid cheap imports. Stay away from purveyors of same, like HF.

You could begin with a set of Craftsman tools, on sale. Or shop c/l and aBay for quality, used tools. A 6-way screwdriver
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will take care of most of your screwdriver needs, to start, for ~$6. No need for a huge collection. Use your head and look for the bargains. But stay committed to quality.
 

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If you're into tool collecting, or want to get into it, the first thing is to decide what you want to collect. Then, figure out how to buy the items, and catalog them to make sure you don't miss things you want for your collection.

Some approaches are:

Collect anything you get a good deal on. Don't worry about multiples, extras, just buy. Eventually, after 10 or 20 or 30 years of this, you graduate from a collector to a hoarder. You're kids won't like it.

Pick a brand you like, and buy anything you can get a good deal on. Similar to accumulator/hoarder, just slightly more focused.

Pick a brand, and try to get a comprehensive set without duplicates. Helps limit the hoarding tendancy, while maintaining some semblance of usability.

Pick a year and a brand, get a catalog from that year, and try to get each item in the catalog. This is particularly satisfying if you have a classic car and want to get an age appropriate set of tools to work on it with and complement your classic car collection.

Decide that your collecting will overlap with your potential use of the tools, and buy tools that you don't have that you may have a need for. Research brands and get what you want for each type of tool, based on how you will use it. This approach is more practical than strict collecting, but doesn't end up with much of a bragging rights collection.

Forego collecting, and decide you are really a user, not a collector. Buy the tools you need to do the type of work you want. Don't collect, but buy as you have needs or potential needs. This is the most practical approach, and not a popular approach here on Garage Journal. You can still get some good info here on the quality/cost/features/durability of the items you want. The danger in reading a lot here is you can easily get seduced into the "buy it and brag about it" mentality.

Personally, if I was in your situation, I'd be a user first, and put off any collecting until I have basic tools to use, and have extra cash to pursue collecting as a hobby, if I still had the interest. I'd buy the house maintenance basics: Good set of screwdrivers, good set of pliers, an adjustable crescent wrench, a claw hammer, a tape measure, a few putty knives/scrapers, a utility knife, a pry bar, drill and bits. Supplement that as you feel the need with a socket set, combination wrench set, other hammers and pliers, a small vise, and a hand or power saw. Then, if you do more than some basic house work, the possibillities open up and are endless. At that point, you will know what you want. If you get into woodworking, routers, saws, chisels, sanders, etc. become a need. If you get into metalworking, shears, welders, grinders, welders, vises, hammers, punches and chisels, drill press, etc. have to be acquired.

Good luck and welcome!

Good Luck!
 

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errrr...... what was the question again? :confused:

focus on what you actually need.
Craigslist, Ebay, garage sales, swap meets first.
The volume of "slightly used" (virtually new) tools in the second-hand market is staggering: every day I see wrench sets and socket sets listed on Ebay that look like they've just been taken out of the wrapper. Every day.

Going new is like purchasing a Cadillac - as soon as you walk out the door its value decreases by 50%. Not new is used, and that applies to Snap-on the same as any other brand.

I've seen this same question asked again and again by new members here, and from my rather limited experience and observations I would say to avoid the huge "master sets" that are loaded with fluff like a gazillion allen wrenches or cheap-*** screwdrivers and "midget" ignition wrench sets that will never be used. Get your basic wrench/socket stuff in order first and then worry about the little stuff.

.... and OCD is all fine and well, but using sockets and wrenches and pliers that are not all the same brand will not hamper you from accomplishing the task at hand.
 

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5 gallon bucket and bucket boss or similar tool organizer that fits in said bucket.

In no particular order:

Hammer, pliers, wire cutters, electric tape, volt meter, speed square, chisel, couple screwdrivers, drill bits, driver set for drill, carpenter pencils, tape measure, torpedo level, mechanics/safety wire, zip ties, duct tape, couple adjustable wrenches, couple pair of vise grips, Teflon tape, center punch, nail set, smallish prybar or two, say a crowsfoot and a flat bar, flat file, round file, small socket set, and probably a couple other things of this nature I forgot. Should all fit in bucket organizer. Razor knife and blades.

Then some kind of organizer, or perhaps another bucket with an assortment of drywall screws, say 5/8", 1 1/4", and 3" for a start. Perhaps some nails in common sizes, bolts, nuts/washers that sort of thing will accumulate and its handy to have them in one spot.

They even sell little round pouch type deals with pie shaped sections to store hardware in that fit inside 5 gallon buckets now that I think about it, look like you could stack a few of them in the bucket, never tried them though.

Box/bag of rags, maybe a couple of tubes of caulk and/or roof sealant. Gloves, I'd say both yard glove type and some of the surgical kind - which I almost never use but probably should. (Especially as my wife sells them)

On craigslist I see those metal 2 door cabinets, about 36" inches wide and 6ft or so tall, usually have 3 shelves - handy to put all this in, or a set of shelves would work.

Loose tools/materials around a house tend to wander away, if you can't find it you don't have it.

Then a decent cordless set is extremely handy, almost to the point of necessity.

I have 18 volt Ryobi stuff. Its cheap, there is a large selection of tools - huge even - all running of the same batteries, and they are strong enough to get your basic home repairs done.

If you have more money or plan on doing more than basic upkeep you might want to upgrade to Milwaukee or dewalt.

And as mentioned earlier the lawn stuff, lawnmower will vary with yard size/budget, but echo weedeaters are great. I used to buy the cheaper ones and fight with them - lucky to get a season out of them, had my echo about 5 years now with no hassles.

I have a plastic 55 gallon barrel with rakes/shovels/hoe/sledge hammer/axe and those sort of items in it.
 

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16 oz. curved claw nailing hammer, 8 or 10 inch adjustable wrench, 8 or 10 inch pump pliers and 6 to 8 inch "engineer" pliers. (Inline slip joint joint pliers are also a possibility and more usual in the U.S.) Multi-bit screwdriver as mentioned. 1/4 inch socket set for appliances with metric/S.A.E. and an extension or two.A basic set of combination wrenches, metric/S.A.E again. A corded drill with 3/8 chuck. That would cover most of the basic tools I'd think and would be useful even if you get into more involved projects requiring more specialized tools in the future.
 

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As some stated garage sales,Craig's list and so forth. Stick to anything with life time warranty and yes that does include some HF tools. As for what to buy first I'd base it on what project you have now and in my opinion the first tools should be a claw hammer, 4 n 1 screwdriver, adjustable wrench, and a good pair of channel locks. You can build of this very easily as needed. For a tool box on the cheap you can't beat a 5 gallon bucket!
 

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I'm just a young guy, but I figure Clint Eastwood knows what he's talking about.

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The last couple posts seem to be dead on for starting a household maintenance set. I already had tons of extra hand tools I had upgraded from at work so my needs were a little different than some. My dad has buckets & boxes of old tools for specific jobs in his basement but that's not a good setup for grabbing something quick so he got a husky set in a blow molded case with sockets, wrenches, various pliers, screwdrivers, hammer... For around $50. That & his cased ryobi 18v kit is about all he needs for most repairs. With a kit like that you can always buy better tools or more complete sets & leave that one in the car or for when someone wants to borrow something. Also when you buy cordless look for a platform that has all the tools you might want down the road.


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I would say that the majority of my tools were bought on ebay, Craigslist and garage sales. And the majority of what I have is USA made. Also, if you have a Northern tool in your area I would check there too. It is mostly going to be imported tools but they have decent stuff. Better than HF.
 

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Its harder today to start a affordable set of quality tools. The answer used to be easy but I agree w/ others and do yard sales, classifieds and pawn shops (if your lucky I always find the bad ones).

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Buy a quality screwdriver set and a good claw hammer. Maybe a 16oz. Anything else that you may need try and get them at yard sales, pawn shops, and sales


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Start with Cripe Distributing. Made in USA NOS will save the day. But hurry, time is limited. ;)
 

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Lots of good advise so far, the other source I have found for good quality, used tools is by visiting estate auctions.

If you get to know the folks at the auction company, they will often let you know when they have a sale including the type(s) of items you are looking for
 
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Thank you guys for all the great advice! That was exactly what I was looking for.
 

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Imagine you are in your late twenties, just bought your first house, and had no tools of your own for basic, everyday projects/repairs that may pop up (You always just used what tools your dad had). You're on a budget but also understand the value and satisfaction in buying quality tools that will last a lifetime.

With all the overwhelming options out there and uncertainty of what to buy first, where would you begin?

Was in this situation a few years back:

1) Screwdrivers. You'll use P2 the most. Don't buy cheapest. Maybe Williams via Amazon ($30ish IIRC)?
2) Corded Drill (garage sale, spend $5, any brand will do if it works. You won't use it much, but can use it until you buy cordless. And you'll need it down the road for drilling 2x4s when doing house reno work).
3) Cordless drill
4) Circular saw (Pref cordless)

For above, Milwaukee seems to be the hot deal right now. If you go with 18V you can get their cordless circular saw. I don't think they make a 12V one.

5) Tape measures (garage sale)
6) Hack saw(garage sale)
7) Drywall saw
8) Wood saw (garage sale)
9) Adjustable wrenches (garage sale)
10) Level(s)

Many on this forum may go straight to hand tools for cars (Wrenches, etc). For home ownership stuff I'd spend $1/pc at a garage sale on a few adjustable wrenches first for around the house. Then later get decent wrenches.

I'm sure I missed stuff. Oh yeah - saw horses. But should get you going.

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1) Garage sales/estate sales
2) Craigslist
3) Harry Epstein (online)
4) Cripe Distributing (online)
 

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Recently my 1/2" socket set walked off the job. $27 for another at HF, and I figure $5 or 10 in fuel to get there so I set that as my price point and searched ebay for used "1/2 drive set" tomorrow or the next day I'll see how my new sockets look
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322070104671
Seemed like that method left me a fair amount of choices with much better quality.

Id hit Northern Tool for gearwrench sets on closeout too.
 
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For a home owner, I think my first purchase would be (and was) a cordless drill. I recently bought a small 12v? Bosch for $100 at Lowes and I REALLY like it. Its small and light and the battery lasts a long time. More than powerful enough for what I need. Buy some good quality USA made 118 degree drills and a number of hex shank P2 driver bits. The drill driver combo until are also a good idea. Biggest and best isn't always best, so be careful about reviews from tool junkies.

If you are handy with wood, a chop saw might be next. Or maybe a cordless circular saw. If you could get a track for it, all the better. You could make a plywood box for your trash cans, a simple wooden work bench, saw horses, garage shelving, adirondack chairs etc.

For cars, I would seriously start with a set of panel poppers - just a cheap set will work. Mine are Snap On and look like Sykes Pickavant. I also have the Bojo and I don't like them. too soft. Add an ice scraper, and an old credit card and you will have a very useful set. You can't change a brake light without these things on some cars. Very useful.

Next would be a multimeter or test light, something to check for voltage (pref AC and DC) and continuity.

I'm a big fan of Snap On's stubby ratcheting screwdriver. I have a small set that includes the screwdriver, a ton of bits and a selection of 1/4" sockets (about $90). I know it sounds expensive, but it's 100% quality and I use the heck out of it. I have a couple extra shafts for it. I like the long one a lot with the stubby handle.

Good cordless LED COB light.

carpenter's knife, old hammer with a wooden handle, HF pry bars and a dead blow hammer. looks for clamps second hand.

Knipex Cobra and Pliers wrench. And don't forget a tool box to hold your stuff. Buy a good big one.

A bench vise is a seriously handy item for a home owner. It can really make the difference between struggling and cutting yourself and fixing something easily. Look for a good quality used one. Sometimes you can find fantastic old craftsman vises for $5. Guys here clean them up to look better than new. Search for their posts.
 
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if its for the house just go to walmart or home depot and get one of those stanley home kits, Husky or whatever HD sells.
 

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For a home owner, I think my first purchase would be (and was) a cordless drill. The drill driver combo until are also a good idea.

And if possible a power tool set for home use the Ryobi @ Home Depot are inexpensive and work well, drill impacter, great addition as a homeowner.

I can't believe there hasn't been more suggestions of an impact driver (which I assume what was meant in bold by the two posters above). If I could go back to my late 20's and first home I would have loved for even today's lower end cordless impact drivers to have been available.

If I had to choose between my cordless drill and my impact I'd absolutely choose the impact. I prefer drilling holes with my impact over driving screws or lags with my drill.

Fortunately the drill and impact driver combination kits are usually very good deals so getting the drill isn't that much more.

Get a set of hex to square socket adapters for it. I use them a lot.

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If you find a good deal on just an impact then pick up a keyless chuck adapter for it. I have a few drills and still have keyless chuck for my driver.

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I was lucky, my father was a millwright and did carpentry work on the side before that an auto mechanic so I always had access to his tools at home. When I was 19 and needed to get tools for work he recommended doing what he did when starting out and go to sears. I went to sears and spent just about was a weeks pay for me at the time and I walked out with a lot of stuff. Pliers, a mechanics toolset, pry bars, screwdrivers, nutdrivers, torx drivers, bit sockets. That got me started what else I needed I added little by little after that. Now I'm 21 and I have a setup I'm proud to own, and I didn't break the bank.
 

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Why buy anything? When's your birthday? Anniversary? Did you have a house warming party? Christmas is only 8 months away. Drop hints, purposely bring your wife or gf around the tools and hardware sections. If you are or become particular about your tools like many of us are and don't want someone else picking them out for you then HD and Sears gift cards come to the top of your wish list.
 

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94--you're lucky to have had your dad start you out right. This used to be the traditional way to encourage a young man to provide himself with the tools he'd need for the rest of his life. But that tradition seems to have largely been lost.

Nearly 60 years ago my dad took me to Sears to buy my own first tools, using my first paycheck from a full-time summer job, running heavy equipment: Craftsman combination wrench set to 1-1/4" plus a set of 1/2"-drive sockets, extensions, ratchet, speed-wrench and breaker bar. Some other stuff, but all Craftsman. Looking back, I'd have to say that event definitely shaped my tool-buying habits. And got me started in a practical direction for a lifetime of working with my hands.
 

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Forego collecting, and decide you are really a user, not a collector. Buy the tools you need to do the type of work you want. Don't collect, but buy as you have needs or potential needs. This is the most practical approach, and not a popular approach here on Garage Journal. You can still get some good info here on the quality/cost/features/durability of the items you want. The danger in reading a lot here is you can easily get seduced into the "buy it and brag about it" mentality.

I would go this route. Figure out the types of jobs you want to do and then figure out what tools you'll need to do those jobs. Garage sales, estate sales and the like are great and all but it's easy to end up with a bunch of tools you'll never use just because you got a good deal. Another thing to consider is how much you're free time is worth. Sure, you may save a few bucks buying used but is the money saved worth the extra time it took to find the tool you need? If I were in your position I would just set aside a few bucks each paycheck and then when a project comes along use that money to buy whatever you need to complete the job. As each project comes along you'll find you need to buy fewer and fewer tools each time.
 

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I can't believe there hasn't been more suggestions of an impact driver (which I assume what was meant in bold by the two posters above). If I could go back to my late 20's and first home I would have loved for even today's lower end cordless impact drivers to have been available.

If I had to choose between my cordless drill and my impact I'd absolutely choose the impact. I prefer drilling holes with my impact over driving screws or lags with my drill.

Fortunately the drill and impact driver combination kits are usually very good deals so getting the drill isn't that much more.

Get a set of hex to square socket adapters for it. I use them a lot.

If you find a good deal on just an impact then pick up a keyless chuck adapter for it. I have a few drills and still have keyless chuck for my driver.

You can buy drill bits that have hex ends on them, so you can just stick them into your impact driver, but they're a little more pricey.

May as well get a drill as well as an impact. The drill will be better for lower torque applications and for using regular drill bits of course. Plus it's nice having 2 tools loaded up for some applications. Like having the drill bit in the drill and a driving bit in the impact driver.
 

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Many garage sales around you?
Great source for tools!
Typical prices by me:
Shovels, rakes etc. $1 - $3
Hammers, pliers $.50 - $4
Decent screwdrivers $.25 - $1.
Decent wrenches $.50 - $1.
Decent woodworking squares $1 - $5

The list goes on

My wife and I check garage sale ads and usually go to ones that mention tools in the ad.
 

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We are all cost conscious and it is challenging to find good quality for cheap. I personally bought solely on price when I was young, naive, and poor. Over the years I upgrade to "lifetime" tools.

Here are some ideas for the DIYer. This is not intended to be inclusive...
Measuring tapes, squares, levels, tack hammer
Claw hammer - 16 oz. Estwing
Rubber mallet, dead blow hammer, drilling hammer
Screwdrivers - cheap 6-in-1's and a professional set of regular drivers
Pliers, multiple types and sizes - ChannelLock or Knipex
Adjustable wrench - ChannelLock (Irega) and Knipex PliersWrenches
Combination wrenches, SAE and metric
Locking Pliers (Vice-Grip is now made in China and not what they used to be. Higher quality can be found in Grip-On, Knipex, and others)
Pipe wrenches
Pry-bars
centerpuches, chisels, drift punches, files, etc.
Sawhorses
Clamps - C-clamps, bar clamps, wooden hand-screws, spring clamps, etc.
Handsaw, circular saw, jig-saw, sawzall
hook and pick set
1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" ratchet set, standard and deep well sockets, extensions, etc.
Car jack, jack stands
Bench vise(s)
Cordless drill and impact driver - DeWalt, Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ryobi, pick your color.
Table-saw
Angle Grinder, Belt Sander
Rotary tool - Dremel, etc.
Tap and Die set
Ratcheting wrenches - basic, flex-head, or reversible (beware GearWrench is not what they used to be after Apex bought them and moved production to China)
Sliding compound miter saw
Drill press
Air compressor, 1/2" air impact, Milton V-style couplers, deep impact sockets, etc.

For the electrically minded...
Side cutters (Klein or Knipex), strippers, and crimpers
Digital Multi-Meter - Ideal, Amprobe, Fluke, etc.
Soldering iron or station (Weller or Hakko), de-solder braid, de-soldering pump/sucker, flux, etc.
Insulated screwdrivers and precision drivers - Wiha
Flush cutters - Hakko
 

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Do you have a lot of free time? I watch Craigslist to get a good idea for what items sell for, then attend estate sales and look for lots on Craigslist. Generally, if you have a good eye for value you can resell enough to grow your collection at little to no cost - it just takes a capital investment to start out and time to clean and resell dirty tools. One of my regrets was spending money on new hammers, saws, screwdrivers, and other homeowner tools - they generally come with the big buys arent worth the effort to resell.
 
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