Starting a tool collection

[learningdrew]

hey everyone, just joined the forum. a passion for internal combustion runs in the fam. my dad's formative years were spent restoring a '55 corvette (first year of V8), but i never learned my way around a shop. right now i own a 2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ and 2008 Triumph Thruxton. getting tired of relying on other people to service them. my nephew is also starting out in the trade, so we're learning together.

what advice do you have buying tools from scratch? if you could do it all over again, what would you do differently?

 

[Zewnten]

First tool I would buy is the service manual for each vehicle you want to work on, not Haynes or the other but the one put out by Jeep. This way you can fix anything and it will list any specialty tools you need for the job.

After that you have to decide what kind of quality of tools you want and what level of quality in which tools. Starting out I always say volume over quality but some people don't like that and want a 'better' grade of tools. But again the best tool to invest in, is the one that holds your hats up

 

[woody 73]

40 plus years ago I never had the web so this is your lucky day take full advantage of it!
So with that in mind I looked at your local CL and found the following ad:

https://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/tls/d/snap-on-and-mac-tools-entire/6608306589.html

You must check it twice per day and keep in mind if items (tools) are cheap enough you better move super fast or it will be gone asap. The above ad has been sitting for a day so I would offer less then his asking price.

If you do not have the time to wait for a good deal and you need it now then search the web for good deals. Check the GJ for hot deals or what other members are selling.


Hope that helps you out.

 

[crewchief888]

i think if i was starting from a "blank slate" in the garage , i'd be looking at TEKTON for basic hand tools.
probably spend some (more serious) money on truck brand ratchets.

channelock or knipex for pliers/cutters

if i found i was having to warranty certain size wrenches or sockets, i'd upgrade at that time.


over the past year or so ive replaced some garage tools with tekton. i gifted a bunch of stuff to my stepson a while back.

if you enjoy the "thrill of the chase", sometimes deals can be found at pawn shops or flea mkts. if you arent particular about having matched sets of anything, then buying used is the way to go....

 

[ChaseDE]

I'm cheap and working on my cars at home in my spare time, just regular maintenance and such.

If I had to start over from scratch HF would be my best friend. Budget 44" box and all the fixins' to get it filled up. Of course while referencing this thread and buying elsewhere if really needed.

 

[jonesg]

hey everyone, just joined the forum. a passion for internal combustion runs in the fam. my dad's formative years were spent restoring a '55 corvette (first year of V8), but i never learned my way around a shop. right now i own a 2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ and 2008 Triumph Thruxton. getting tired of relying on other people to service them. my nephew is also starting out in the trade, so we're learning together.

what advice do you have buying tools from scratch? if you could do it all over again, what would you do differently?

Do you have a garage?
Is this a career or hobby?
Got a job?

 

[learningdrew]

40 plus years ago I never had the web so this is your lucky day take full advantage of it!
So with that in mind I looked at your local CL and found the following ad:

https://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/tls/d/snap-on-and-mac-tools-entire/6608306589.html

You must check it twice per day and keep in mind if items (tools) are cheap enough you better move super fast or it will be gone asap. The above ad has been sitting for a day so I would offer less then his asking price.

Wow, $600 for Snap-on and Matco basics. Looks like a great deal!

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Personally I'd buy as the jobs required the tools, depending on the quality need. I read on here to let the need dictate the tools you buy. Best advice I ever got.

 

[learningdrew]

Do you have a garage?
Is this a career or hobby?
Got a job?

My garage is cramped, will outgrow it quickly. It's a hobby for me, a career for my nephew. I work in software and can afford to invest in the right tools if they pay off

 

[learningdrew]

i think if i was starting from a "blank slate" in the garage , i'd be looking at TEKTON for basic hand tools.
probably spend some (more serious) money on truck brand ratchets.

channelock or knipex for pliers/cutters

if i found i was having to warranty certain size wrenches or sockets, i'd upgrade at that time.

i'm still getting a hang of the different brands out there. what makes you say to go with snap-on or matco for ratchets?

 

[learningdrew]

After that you have to decide what kind of quality of tools you want and what level of quality in which tools. Starting out I always say volume over quality but some people don't like that and want a 'better' grade of tools. But again the best tool to invest in, is the one that holds your hats up

Is there a thread or place online where I can learn more about quality levels of different brands and for that matter the tools in the brand?

 

[learningdrew]

If I had to start over from scratch HF would be my best friend. Budget 44" box and all the fixins' to get it filled up. Of course while referencing this thread and buying elsewhere if really needed.

I've heard mixed things about HF. Based on what you're saying, could work for me as a hobbyist. Not so much for my nephew. I had no idea about that thread detailing which tools within the HF line are passable. Are there similar threads for other brands? Such a wealth of info

 

[woody 73]

Is there a thread or place online where I can learn more about quality levels of different brands and for that matter the tools in the brand?

I wish there was a magic pill that you could take for all your questions, but it took me over 50 years to learn and I still only know less the .001 percent. start reading as many posts on the GJ and take a few weeks to absorb it all in.

I did a few posts on screwdrivers to keep your eye open for (all USA), a post on the better chisel and punches to look for, and drill bits. speaking of the devil on your local CL someone is selling a very nice tap & die set (USA) if that had been on my local CL I would have bought it.

Take your time grasshopper and read everything first before diving in.

Woody

 

[learningdrew]

Take your time grasshopper and read everything first before diving in.

Woody

Thanks for your help!

 

[crewchief888]

i'm still getting a hang of the different brands out there. what makes you say to go with snap-on or matco for ratchets?

ive used and abused a lot of ratchets over the years. my 2 daily (professional) use ratchets are both truck brands. even working in the garage i grab a truck brand ratchet before anything else...

 

[Parrothead]

This was from a previous post about someone wanting to get sockets and wrenches for under $400.

You should look at Williams for a little more truck brand prestige without the price. The Williams USA are rumored to be Snap-on (same company) without the label.

Wilde > Channellock (my opinion) and the Tekton USA pliers are Wilde. The rest are China so judge according.

Knipex mini bolt cutters are invaluable.

Adjustable wrenches are Channellock (made in Spain) and no slop

Screwdrivers...your choice. Williams, Tekton (USA), Harbor Freight (red and blue), and others are all well received.

My Quote from another thread

“This is easy...

TEKTON

3/8 Socket Set - $50
https://www.tekton.com/3-8-inch-driv...cket-set-13101
Has both shallow and deep metric and SAE, and a ratchet + accessories

1/2 Socket Set - $150
https://www.tekton.com/1-2-inch-driv...cket-set-13201
Has both shallow and deep metric and SAE, and a ratchet + accessories

1/4 Socket Set - $45
https://www.tekton.com/1-4-inch-driv...cket-set-13001
Has both shallow and deep metric and SAE, and a ratchet + accessories

Metric & SAE Combination Wrench Set - $90
https://www.tekton.com/combination-wrench-set-90191
8-22mm and 1/4" to 1"

SAE Combination Wrench 1-1/16 - $15
https://www.tekton.com/1-1-16-inch-c...n-wrench-18267

SAE Combination Wrench 1-1/8 - $18
https://www.tekton.com/1-1-8-inch-co...n-wrench-18268


GRAND TOTAL - $368

They also have the following combination wrenches... 6mm, 7mm, 23mm through 50mm should you be so inclined to need them. In SAE they go up to 2", so that should cover almost any need. All of the above is made in Taiwan

Lifetime warranty, with good tools.

I can vouch for the combination wrenches. I've used them to do brakes and suspension in the rust belt, and have beat on them with a 3lb mini sledge. Got the job done, though they're not quite as shiny as they once were. Hammers on chrome tend to do that. No chipping or peeling though.

You can also pick up some groove joint pliers, and slip joint pliers from them too. Those are USA made from Wilde. I like them better than Channellock at this point. In that vein, the Channellock adjustable wrenches are second to none. Made in Spain. The pry bars I'd pick up from Sears/Craftsman as they're cheaper and the same thing as the Tektons. Also USA made.

The rest you can pick and choose on your own, but that's a pretty good budget friendly start.”

 

[AceofSpad3s]

Buy stuff from HF that says taiwan or pro on it, channel lock taiwnese wrenches
Then buy better used stuff from all the usual places to replace that. Read reviews.

 

[matt_i]

Here's my take. You should buy some el cheapo wrenches/ratchets/sockets so you have a feel for how that price point tool works. You should buy some primo wrenches/ratchets/sockets to get a feel for how those work.

I think the direction would then be set. You either don't want to pay for the expensive tools and are satisfied with the lower price point, OR you LOVE the quality and name, prestige, etc, and are going to spring for the big boys products.

 

[Zewnten]

Is there a thread or place online where I can learn more about quality levels of different brands and for that matter the tools in the brand?

Not really I have a list in my head of what I consider top tier and dear and what I would throw in my home box and not worry about it. Most anything made in Taiwan at HF is worth the gamble IMO (specifically the 300pc mechanic set regularly on sale for $150), to that I would add Carlyle ratchets 1/4 and 3/8 long locking flex and possibly #2 and #1 Phillips once your break the HF ones in the kit, (which I still haven't done) If you want tool truck quality for 50% USA Williams and USA proto are great choices.

 

[Tallpilot]

Quantity vs quantity to some extent. Tekton for combination wrenches in a large size range. Tekton for chrome sockets and extensions in a large size range. 24" 1/2" breaker bar from Tekton or HF if you like comfort grip better.

USA Williams or Carlyle (only when on sale though) for most used sockets (Carlye for mid-length).

Knipex diagonal cutters in various sizes. The Snap-on 6 piece screwdriver set is currently on sale for $120; go ahead and splurge. Get Tekton small drivers (0, 1/8").

If you have a little extra left over the Snap-on pick sets both long and mini are also on sale. They are worth it at your income level.

Snap-on locking flex ratchet in 3/8 and extra long Pittsburgh Pro in 3/8 and 1/2 to beat on and not care if it breaks.

 

[HondaCBMan]

Quantity vs quantity to some extent. Tekton for combination wrenches in a large size range. Tekton for chrome sockets and extensions in a large size range. 24" 1/2" breaker bar from Tekton or HF if you like comfort grip better.

USA Williams or Carlyle (only when on sale though) for most used sockets (Carlye for mid-length).

Knipex diagonal cutters in various sizes. The Snap-on 6 piece screwdriver set is currently on sale for $120; go ahead and splurge. Get Tekton small drivers (0, 1/8").

If you have a little extra left over the Snap-on pick sets both long and mini are also on sale. They are worth it at your income level.

Snap-on locking flex ratchet in 3/8 and extra long Pittsburgh Pro in 3/8 and 1/2 to beat on and not care if it breaks.

Why splurge on a screwdriver set? I've seen the Williams set compared to the Snap-on set and it runs $70.

I'd splurge on ratchets over screwdrivers. Don't know.

Also worth looking into is Capri wobble+ extensions over Tekton. Its $30 for 4 or 5 extensions.

 

[bczygan]

hey everyone, just joined the forum. a passion for internal combustion runs in the fam. my dad's formative years were spent restoring a '55 corvette (first year of V8), but i never learned my way around a shop. right now i own a 2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ and 2008 Triumph Thruxton. getting tired of relying on other people to service them. my nephew is also starting out in the trade, so we're learning together.

what advice do you have buying tools from scratch? if you could do it all over again, what would you do differently?

My list is in my signature line.....!

Bill

 

[bczygan]

To me, it is more important to have a wide variety of tools, than a narrow selection of the best and most expensive.

Potential tool list:

Next needed on the list:
Load binder
6 in one tap (Triple tap)
11" Long reach diagonal cutter HF 37837 6.99
Soldering center Hakko FX888D
1/2 in. - 1 in. Ratcheting Pipe Threader Set HF 62354 34.99
Box and pan break
Switch for Compressor
3/4" Impact Sockets, metric and SAE
Air tank - aluminum?
12V air compressor
Riveting:
Regulator at the tool
Bucking bar
Rivet sets - 1 set
Rivets - 2 sizes
Clecos - 2 sizes
https://www.aircraft-tool.com/
Lincoln drill bits for cleaning out end
Brake line and gas line bending tools incl HF
HF 1/4 in. - 3/8 in. Tubing Bender 3755 7.99
Gas line - size and type/material?
Nicopp brake line 25' 3/8"? and fittings
Fish sticks HF large
Fluid film
Welding coat
Pressure washer
Fluid extractor pump
4 Piece Short Air Chisel Set HF 68277 5.99
Distilled water - more
Vinegar - gallons
External retaining ring pliers Matco
Crocus cloth
Factory service manual 2002 Astro Vol II
Sheet metal cutter - air
Electrolysis Tank
Welding cart (Build?)
For Service Cart:
Better organization for wrenches
Mount for paper towels
Mount for pry bars?
Shelf
Side cabinet? - no
Electrical outlet and cord hook
Air hose hook and fitting
Working on better storage for service cart. Took numerous things out of packaging to save space.
Would like:
SAE everything...
Shallow sockets?
Pullers
Dental picks
Electrical Terminal Kit and Crimper - Better terminal kit
Wrenches long box end metric?
Ironton Retractable Cord Reel - 40-Ft., 12/3, Triple Tap 49666 69.99
Offset Box Wrench Set Metric 8 pc HF 32042 15.99
Offset Box Wrench Set SAE 8 pc HF 32041 15.99
Hex sockets ball end long 3/8" SAE HF 67885 14.99
Hex sockets ball end long 3/8" Metric HF 67888 14.99
Spring compressors - Would like center one
Special pliers cable cutters - Have some
Not needed yet:
Large Bearing Separator HF 3979 29.99
1/2 in. Drive 18 in. Breaker Bar HF 67932 9.99
3/4 in. Drive 20 in. Quick Release Breaker Bar HF 98270 21.99
Master Fuel Injection Pressure Test Kit HF 62788 89.99
1/2 in. Drive Front Wheel Drive Axle Lock-Nut Socket Set 7 Pc HF 62842 39.99
1/2 in. Drive Super High Torque Lug Nut Impact Socket Set 11 Pc HF 69829 69.99
2 Pc. Professional Automotive HVLP Air Spray Gun Kit HF 61472 49.99
Power Probe IV
LED 12 volt for testing coil on plug, etc. ($3 or so at electronic supply house)
Mapp gas - CL
11 or 18 piece brake caliper set HF?
Disc Brake Pad and Caliper Service Tool Kit 18 Pc ABN Sears 24.99
Oil Filter Wrench (assortment of strap and cap types) - Have some
IRWIN Tools BOLT-GRIP Deep Well Bolt Extractor Set, 5-Piece (3094001) 34.23 - Have HF
Irwin damaged fastener tool set Screw extractor set?
3 in. High Speed Composite Air Cut-Off Tool HF 68832 19.99 Have reg HF one
Bolt-Type Wheel Puller Set HF 62620 14.99
1/2 in. Drive Front Wheel Drive Axle Lock-Nut Socket Set 7 Pc HF 62842 39.99
Interior body panel tools - Have HF plastic - couple more HF
Body panel clip pliers HF 67399 7.99
Push pin pliers HF 67400 9.99
Noid Light and IAC Tester Set 11 Pc HF 97959 39.99
Hose disconnect tools HF
3/8 in. Offset Oxygen Sensor Wrench HF 97177 6.99
7/8 in. Oxygen Sensor Socket HF 69022 7.99
Stubby wrenches
Rear caliper cube
Cordless impact
Quick disconnect tools
Axle nut socket set powerbuilt O'Reillys?
Leslie blind seal puller
CV joint boot band installation tool
Air chucks for pressure testing cylinders
Compression tester
Fuel pressure gauge
Vacuum gauge
Chain Wrench?
Stud remover
AC tools
Disconnect tools
Big channellocks - have cheap ones
Curved needlenose
Eastwood pro flaring tool set - use small set
Specialty wrenches
Cable actuated hose clamp pliers
MAC flare set
Balance puller
Block tester
2nd cart
HAVE:
02543?
82307?
03655?
Link belt
5.3 Amp 1/2 in. Heavy Duty Bandfile Belt Sander HF 62863 34.99
12V Air pump
RATCHETS, SOCKETS,EXTENSIONS AND SETS:
Gearwrench 8922 23 Pcs. SAE Pass-thru Socket & Bit Set 8922 33.00
Kobalt 7-Piece SAE 3/8-in Drive 12-Point Flex Socket Set 0236279
Kobalt 7-Piece Metric 3/8-in Drive 12-Point Flex Socket Set 86218
Kobalt 22-Piece Thru-Ratchet Set 70128
Kobalt 7-Piece 3/8-in Drive Hex Driver Socket Set 0338623
Kobalt 24-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Mechanic's Tool Set with Hard Case 0338552 Kobalt 35-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Mechanic's Tool Set with Hard Case 0338358
Kobalt 16-Piece Standard/Metric Mechanics Tool Set 0338511 35.00
Kobalt 7-Piece 3/8-in Drive Hex Driver Socket Set 0338622 19.00
Kobalt 11-Piece Standard (SAE) 3/8-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set0338614 26.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 1/2-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338616 27.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 1/2-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338621 37.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Standard (SAE) 1/2-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338620 37.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 3/8-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set 0338615 26.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 3/8-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338617 27.97
Kobalt 10-Piece Metric 1/4-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set 0338637 14.97
Kobalt 10-Piece Standard (SAE) 1/4-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set 0338636 14.99
Kobalt 24-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Mechanic's Tool Set with Hard Case 0338552 19.98
Kobalt 20-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Combination Mechanic's Tool Set 0338509
1/4 in. Drive Professional Low Profile Ratchet HF 62329 16.99
3/8 in. Drive Professional Low Profile Ratchet HF 62328 17.99
1/2 in. Drive Professional Low-Profile Ratchet HF 62330 19.99
1/4 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Ratchet HF 62331 16.99
3/8 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Long Handle Ratchet HF 62333 24.99
1/2 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Long Handle Ratchet HF 62332 29.99
1/4 in. Drive Heavy Duty Composite Ratchet HF 66312 8.99
3/8 in. Drive Composite Quick-Release Ratchet HF 62290 9.99
3/8 in. Drive Indexable Head Ratchet HF 62316 16.99
1/2 in. Drive Indexable Head Ratchet HF 62315 19.99
1/4" insert bit ratchet
Spark plug sockets - variety
4 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Quick-Release Extension Bar Set HF 67976 19.99
4 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Quick-Release Extension Bar Set HF 61968 22.99
9-piece-wobble-extension-set HF 31203
4 Piece High Visibility Socket Adapter Set HF 67925 4.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 61278 14.99
9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67900 14.99
21 Pc 3/8 in. Drive SAE & Metric High Visibility Socket Set HF 67905 22.99
21 Pc SAE & Metric Go-Thru Socket Set HF 62305 19.99
1/2 in. Drive Extendable Ratchet HF 62311 17.99
Gear Wrench 23-piece 1/4" Drive Metric Socket Set 8923 25.00
1/2 in. Drive Impact Flip Socket Set 3 Pc HF 62491 11.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Socket Set HF 69345 25.99
8 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Hex Socket Set HF 61337 29.99
8 Pc 1/2 in. Drive SAE Impact Hex Socket Set HF 67893 29.99
3 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67065 8.99
3 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67066 9.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
7 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67911 29.99
7 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67908 24.99
E reverse Torx sockets metric
37 Pc 3/8 in., 1/2 in. Drive SAE & Metric Impact Socket Set HF 68011 29.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69279 24.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive SAE Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69280 24.99
8 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Star Bit Socket Set HF 61336 29.99
9 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Metric Bolt Extractor Socket Set HF 67894 24.99
Flex sockets
Blow mold 1/4" socket and ratchet set Gearwrench
Universal joint set metric for sockets
Universal joint set SAE for sockets
4 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Socket Extension Set HF 67972 9.99
4 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Impact Socket Extension Set HF 67926 7.99
Impact extension size converters HF
3/8" Extensions locking and regular HF
WRENCHES:
Torque wrench HF 3 sizes
Crowsfoot wrenches metric
GearWrench 87329 SAE X-Beam 29-Piece Ratcheting Wrench Set
11 Pc Fully Polished Metric Long Handle Combination Wrench Set HF 47067 24.99
14 Pc Metric V-Groove Combination Wrench Set HF 63063 39.99
14 Pc SAE V-Groove Combination Wrench Set HF 61726 39.99
GearWrench 9700 7 Piece Flex-Head Combination Ratcheting Wrench Set SAE 9700 48.41
GearWrench 9900 7 Piece Flex-Head Combination Ratcheting Wrench Set Metric 9900
GearWrench 87329 SAE X-Beam 29-Piece Ratcheting Wrench Set 87329
1/2 in. Professional Air Impact Wrench HF Earthquake 68424 89.99
Air ratchet - Husky
SPECIALTY TOOLS:
Heavy Duty Slide Hammer and Puller Set 16 Pc HF 63268 69.99
4 Piece Solid Brass Industrial Quick Coupler Set HF 68241 2.79
1/4" Female to Male Swivel Connector HF 68196 4.99
16 in. Ball Joint Separator HF 63420 7.99
Bearing Separator and Puller Set HF 62593 49.99
Front Wheel Bearing Adapters HF 63260 119.99
Ball Joint Service Kit for 2WD and 4WD Vehicles HF 63279 89.99
14 Piece Master Ball Joint Adapter Set HF 62785 72.99
Brake Bleeder and Vacuum Pump Kit HF 60770 24.99
Tie rod and Pitman arm puller HF 62708 14.99 - Get puller kit?
MISC.:
1/2" Hitch lock HF
MIG pliers HF
Flexible hose for grease gun HF
10 Piece Bearing Race and Seal Driver Set HF 63261 49.99
Seal Driver Kit 18 Pc HF 35555 19.99
20 oz. HVLP Gravity Feed Air Spray Gun with Regulator HF 69705 29.99
Medium Barrel Air Impact Hammer HF 69866 13.99
3 Piece Long Air Chisel Set HF 68276 7.99
Air Hammer Replacement Chisel Spring HF 68275 1.69
Air Hammer Quick Release Chisel Holder HF 66621 4.99
2 Pc 10 in. Internal And External Circlip Pliers HF 60593 9.99
Astro Pneumatic 9401 10-Piece Snap Ring Pliers Set APT-9401 28.99
Drum Brake Spring Pliers Kit 3 Pc HF 97804 12.99
Stainless Steel Tweezers Set 6 Pc HF 93598 5.99
1/4 in. Drive 5 in. Breaker Bar Herbrand (2) 5.00
3/8 in. Drive 17 in. Breaker Bar HF 67931 8.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Breaker Bar HF 67933 12.99
1/2 in. Drive 18 in. Ratcheting Breaker Bar HF 67957 21.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Professional Breaker Bar HF 62729 19.99
Pry bars Craftsman 3 pc
4 Pc Heavy Duty Pry Bar Set HF 01654 10.99
Left Hand Drill Bit Set 13 Pc HF 61686 7.99
Titanium Nitride Coated Drill Bit Set 29 Pc HF 61637 14.99
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 2 Pc HF 96275 19.99
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 3 Pc HF 60379 13.99
2 Pc 20° Offset & 45° Angle Long Reach Pliers HF 61587 7.99
Long Reach Hose Grip Pliers 3 Pc HF 37909 14.99
2 Pc. 16 in. Long Reach Pliers Set HF 38598 11.99
Pliers misc
22 Pc Screwdriver Set HF 69420 11.99
Screwdrivers misc, and HF
Small screwdrivers misc
4# hand sledge
4 lb. Neon Orange Dead Blow Hammer HF 41800 11.99
Rubber mallet
Brass hammer
Alignment punches
Chisels - Have a selection
Safety glasses and face shield
Mini Pick and Hook Set 4 Pc HF 66836 free
Magnetic parts dishes 4" and 6" HF
Coolant tester
Rivets
3-in-1 Riveter Kit HF 94300 16.99
Mirror & magnet tools extendable
Flashlights misc
Brush - Have
Teflon tape
Tubing cutters 2
Hacksaw - Have a couple
Grease gun - Learn to use
Flaring tool set small - Good for now for brake lines
Vise grips - Have a few
Channel locks
Ryobi Dremel (type) with 3 accessory kits
Files
Gasket scraper
Office paper clips for cam belts
ELECTRICAL:
Lisle 56500 Terminal Tool 9.99
Helping hands HF 60501 4.99
10 in. Cable Cutters HF 61422 6.99
Multi-meter Milwaukee
Clamp meter Milwaukee
7 Function Digital Multimeter with Backlight HF 92020 free
6/12V Circuit Tester with 5 ft. Lead HF 30779 3.99
Electrical tape
Battery terminal cleaner
Wire Stripper
Feeler Gauges/thickness shims
Spark Plug Gap gauge
Timing light
Battery charger
Side cutters
MEASUREMENT:
Dial caliper
Electronic caliper HF
MicrometerS
Calipers HF
Supplies:
Super lube HF
Brake cleaner
Kroil
PB blaster
Wheel bearing grease
Brake lube
Anti-seize
Shop towels
Paper towels
7 mil Nitrile Powder-Free Gloves 50 Pc X-Large HF 61774 9.99
9 mil Nitrile Powder-Free Gloves 50 Pc X-Large HF 61743 12.99
Red Mechanic's Shop Towels 14x13 50 Pk. HF 63365 12.99
SHOP EQUIPMENT:
Vise - Have a few
Ox/ac set incl. cart
Pancake air compressor - Porter Cable
Speedaire 3Z494 5HP 60GAL 1PH 240V 16.6 CFM at 175PSI
Sears 106.?????? 2HP 20GAL 20A 240V Horiz. Compressor
Air pressure gauges and fittings
Bench grinder 1/2HP Baldor
Grinders with wire wheels and stones and buffs
Drill press Buffalo
Bridgeport
Lathe South Bend
Horiz. band saw Kalamazoo
Parts washer
Arbor press Grenard
12 ton H-Frame Industrial Heavy Duty Floor Shop Press HF 33497 119.99
Hose reel
Disc sander Kalamazoo
Belt sander Kalamazoo
Anvil
AC DC stick welder ARC-180 HF 44568
AC DC "Tombstone" stick welder Lincoln
Lincoln Weld-Pak 3200HD 120V MIG
Plasma cutter
OTHER:
20 oz. HVLP Gravity Feed Air Spray Gun with Regulator HF 69705 29.99
10 in. Flush Cut Pull Saw HF 94722 7.99
10 In. Japanese Style Double-Edge Saw HF 67058 9.99
Cornwell OBDII Scanner OWC9575. Same as OTC2109 and Actron CP9575 40.00
UtiliTech 1000 lumen work light
Milwaukee 12V and 18V cordless drills and impact drivers
4-1/2 in. 4.3 Amp Angle Grinder HF 60625 (2) 13.99
4-1/2 in. 4.3 Amp Angle Grinder HF 68645 13.99
1/4 in. Air Angle Die Grinder HF 32046 12.99
3 in. High-Speed Air Cut-Off Tool HF 60374 7.99
18 Pc SAE & Metric T-Handle Ball End Hex Key Set HF 63167 17.99
1.5 Ton Compact Aluminum Racing Floor Jack with Rapid Pump® HF 62160 79.99
Arcan Aluminum floor jack 3 ton ALJ3T 249.99
3 Ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61196 21.99
6 ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61197 39.99
Pneumatic Roller Seat HF 46319 25.99
40 in. 300 lb. Capacity Low-Profile Creeper HF 69262 23.99
First aid kit
Fire extinguisher
Engine stand
1500 lb. Capacity Vehicle Dollies 2 Pc HF 67338 52.99
Oil drain containers
Funnels
Wheel chock
Trash can
Broom
Dustpan alum.
Shop vac.
Hose reel ceiling mount 3/8"
Engine stand
Engine hoist
Fish sticks HF small
Argon tank 80, 125 or 150 or 330! and 25/75
Vulcan ArcSafe™ Auto Darkening Welding Helmet HF 63749 139.99
1/4" Male Steel Industrial Swivel Plug HF 68185 1.99
Air hammer Astro Pneumatic 4901 Kit 210.71
HF Braun foldable light
HF Braun Underhood light $30 w/coupon
HF Long screwdrivers
HF 20 Ton Air over hydraulic bottle jack
HF Leather apron
Silver And Deming Drill Bit Set 8 Pc HF 61892 34.99
HF Electrical screwdrivers both sets
Lincoln spindle for large spool
Needle scaler HF
Fish tape HF small
Anti-splatter nozzle dip
HF Brake Line Forming Tool 95782 10.99
45 Pc Titanium Nitride Coated Alloy Steel Metric Tap & Die Set HF 61410 84.99 Missing one tap 2 dies match
45 Pc Titanium Nitride Coated Alloy Steel SAE Tap & Die Set HF 61411 84.99 Missing one tap
5 Piece Front End Service Tool Set HF 62789 74.99 Big one broken
Ideal 45-025 Lowes 5.25
Cal-Van 165 flare kit - 40.60
HF 1/8 in. - 1/4 in. Tube Bender 94571 9.99
3 Pc SAE Socket Tray/Organizer HF 68100 9.99
3 Pc Metric Socket Tray/Organizer 68102 9.99
HVLP Spray Gun Kit HF 44677 119.99
**** Welding Clamps 8 Pc HF 60545 6.99
48 in. Adjustable T-Square HF 67778 19.99
Scriber Pen General
Releasable Zip Ties 8" & 11"
3/8 in. Mini Air Ratchet Wrench HF 99898 29.99
Kastar 971 48 pc SAE and Metric Thread Restorer Kit 69.99 Amazon CPO Outlets https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003QHQEPE/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new
1/4 in. Mini Air Ratchet Wrench HF 93821 28.99
1/2 in. Drive Super High Torque Lug Nut Impact Socket Set 11 Pc HF 69829 69.99
48 in. Adjustable T-Square HF 67778 19.99
4-1/2 in. 4.3 Amp Angle Grinder HF 60625 14.99 2 more
Speedy Sharp
16 Gauge Air Nibbler HF 96661 25.99
Thexton Universal thread gauges Part No. 432 Amazon 6.75
Momentary Power Foot Switch HF 96619 13.99
Milwaukee 3/8" non-fuel 12V ratchet


Bill

 

[Yarpo]

I started out with a Stanley black chrome socket set 4 or 5 years ago, and I can't say I'd start out much differently today. Those tools are still in great working order without issue. I don't reach for them much anymore because I reach for a semi deep set first now but they served their purpose and still do. I think everyones box of tools will be different and all will take different paths and tell a different stories based on the user.

Get a solid base of tools that work, and then add to it if you've got the cash or find something on sale. If you don't have things to work on, just be patient and look for sales, that's my only advice, and advice I'm still following. I have way more tools than I need in my home box, and I feel like I've not spent all that much. Be careful tho as my home box probably has more tools than my work box, and half of them don't get used much/if at all, but that's just the nature of buying tools every week I guess

 

[Davefr]

Wow, $600 for Snap-on and Matco basics. Looks like a great deal!

I'm not sure I agree. I see lot's of misc. sockets and oddball stuff, only a few old SAE wrenches and what looks like 3 imported ratchets (one might be Proto). Nothing I see is metric.

I think $600 would be much better spent handpicking what the OP needs. He'd be out $600 and not able to touch a thing that needs metric.

 

[Mikeske]

ive used and abused a lot of ratchets over the years. my 2 daily (professional) use ratchets are both truck brands. even working in the garage i grab a truck brand ratchet before anything else...

I agree about the ratchets. I got several different brands and they do work but just are not as smooth and easy to use as the Snap-on ratschets. Years ago when I started out working in aviation I bought a full set of Bonney tools. They are ok but the Snap-on are just a level better then any others. My snap-on I got out of pawnshops. I also really like the Snap-on ratcheting screwdrivers. I also acquired the screwdrivers the same way

 

[HondaCBMan]

My list is in my signature line.....!

Bill

What do you work on? Pro or home gamer? A list that long will scare away most newbies.

Best advice is to buy the basics (combo wrenches, ratchets, sockets, screwdrivers, pliers, etc) and then buy others as needed imo.

 

[Cfendrick]

What auto parts store do you frequent the most and what big box stores are closest to you? This would be a good indicator for easy walk in and out warranty for a DIYer. This to me is still value in Craftsman, Kobalt, Stanley and Husky if it’s in route of things you do daily/weekly. Parts stores like NAPA carry Carlyle which to me is good stuff but still cheaper than tool truck items. I also like AutoZone’s Duralast and Advanced Auto Parts GearWrench.

For great starter sets to a complete master sets start looking at the GearWrench and Tekton brands.

Honestly I still believe in the right tools for each job and you will minimize the overall need for a warranty replacement or can afford x3-5 or more the most often used items before going to a tool truck brand.

Starting out from scratch I would jump on the 1/4 Socket Set and 3/8 Socket Set 1/2 Socket Set from Tekton. Depending on the trade school they get a **% discount.

Otherwise I would go GearWrench sets as well. Even if I picked up the Tekton sets I’m going to want a second set of everything metric from 8mm to 24mm.

 

[Bobioz1]

If you want a tool collection, buy someone else’s. You’ll save thousands. Concentrate on metric stuff.

 

[Snakebyt]

to be completly honest, i wouldnt spend any money on SAE, unless you are working on something fairly old, for me, its just not needed. The only thing in my box that is SAE is a brake bleeding wrench that came in a 2 pack with the metric one i needed. Everything else i have in my box is metric.
Another tip i would add is to not spend money on standard non ratcheting combination wrenches, spend the money and get a good set of ratcheting ones. Personaly i have a set of gear wrench xl ratcheting wrenches.

 

[Gmonkee]

Bill and his HF store are a well stocked home shop.

His taco, all the salsa he wants. Same for big brands guys. Maybe thinking less of upper crust is better than a lot of the lower level stuff.

Truth, it depends on what things you plan to fix. Droppung tracks and transits off a D8 Cat is goung to require more and better tools than changing the drive belt on the mower.

The safest suggestion is pick a locally available brand of a quality level to fit your needs.
The next step is basic wrenches, pliers, socket set and screwdrivers.

Use it and see what you need after that for special needs. For me Torx and allen plus oil filter pliers.

Standard depth sockets at first. See if you use those enough before deep-mid-low profile and swivel in both 6 and12pt in four drive sizes. Few really need the full monty in sockets.

The nephew will get a list from his school or employer as to what they hope he brings. Resist on all premium at first to see if it sticks. If it isn't his skill set its less parked money nobody ever reaches for. If he loves it well then....

 

[J.A.F.E.]

A lot depends on what you do and what you plan to do and what you like. For me I mostly use and collect Snap-on from early 50's to mid 80's. I have an emotional connection to those tools from that era but I also have other brands and tools from other eras as well. I tend to buy used tools at the swaps and finding them is part of my enjoyment. I do sometimes buy new tools just depends on what I need or what I want. Other people may want to buy everything at once, or buy based on price or country of origin. Like buying a car there is no one right answer for everyone.

I have small hands and what fits comfortably is probably different than someone who has large hands. A screwdriver I like may be torture for someone else.

Your nephew will have different needs and may have different choices.

There are lot's of good tools and good brands and no one company makes the "best" everything. I probably have at least 20 different brands of ratchets and like them all and use them all to the extent possible. Some people have one or two and that is all they want or need. But to me using the tools is part of the enjoyment of building or fixing or modifying stuff.

Once you can start to sort that out you will have a better idea of what you want.

When I started buying tools I had little money so I mostly bought stuff as I needed it. It was years before I was able to buy sets of things. I would do it that way now because it gave me the opportunity to learn to use what I had to maximum efficiency and to learn what I did, and did not, like.

 

[jkesselr]

The best advice I can give you is to cancel your GJ membership and never return to this website. It is a black hole. You will soon find yourself agonizing over tooth count of ratchets, makers marks on tools, and whether you prefer Phillips bits with ACR or not. Soon you will be without a job, combing garage sales, and selling your cars because you have neither the time, nor inclination to work on them (nor the money, for that matter), because you are chasing vintage American tool iron or the latest and greatest Milwaukee Fuel 372 volt battery operated massaging recliner. You will be broke as ****, but you’ll have a tool set that is the envy of GJ. Run. Run now... you’ve been warned!

 

[AceofSpad3s]

the best advice i can give you is to cancel your gj membership and never return to this website. It is a black hole. You will soon find yourself agonizing over tooth count of ratchets, makers marks on tools, and whether you prefer phillips bits with acr or not. Soon you will be without a job, combing garage sales, and selling your cars because you have neither the time, nor inclination to work on them (nor the money, for that matter), because you are chasing vintage american tool iron or the latest and greatest milwaukee fuel 372 volt battery operated massaging recliner. You will be broke as ****, but you’ll have a tool set that is the envy of gj. Run. Run now... You’ve been warned!

 

[ssdave]

Here's my take. You should buy some el cheapo wrenches/ratchets/sockets so you have a feel for how that price point tool works. You should buy some primo wrenches/ratchets/sockets to get a feel for how those work.

I think the direction would then be set. You either don't want to pay for the expensive tools and are satisfied with the lower price point, OR you LOVE the quality and name, prestige, etc, and are going to spring for the big boys products.

The best advice I can give you is to cancel your GJ membership and never return to this website. It is a black hole. You will soon find yourself agonizing over tooth count of ratchets, makers marks on tools, and whether you prefer Phillips bits with ACR or not. Soon you will be without a job, combing garage sales, and selling your cars because you have neither the time, nor inclination to work on them (nor the money, for that matter), because you are chasing vintage American tool iron or the latest and greatest Milwaukee Fuel 372 volt battery operated massaging recliner. You will be broke as ****, but you’ll have a tool set that is the envy of GJ. Run. Run now... you’ve been warned!

Both of these pieces of advice are some of the best I have ever seen in one of these threads.

In line with the first quoted post, I'd suggest buying a snap-on 1/4" drive socket and ratchet set, and a 3/8" drive Craftsman or Harbor Freight set. Use both and pick which level of quality works for you. If the HF or CM work; then shop for asian tools that you like; some of the other possibilities are Carlyle, Gearwrench, and of coursse the various flavor of the month sold by the local auto parts stores. If the SO is what you need, then compare them to Proto, Wright, Mac, SK and of course SO and buy which ones you like best.

Use the preferences you determine from your experiment above to fill out the rest of your needs in wrenches, pliers, screwdrivers, etc.

I'd personally recommend not going with Bills ultralist above. Make your own list, based on what you want to do, not based on setting some kind of record for variety of what you're able to acquire and store. That list is a sign of the obsession talked about in the second post I quoted! And a good example of quantity over quality. That's some guys thing, more power to them if that's what they enjoy.

I too don't think the cl buy posted above in millcreek is a good buy if you want them for user tools. Not enough range to use; and not enough value to resell. But, if you were to buy that assortment, I'd trade you 4:1 Craftsman and quality asian or lesser US brands for them; in a range of stuff both metric and SAE that would make a great user set. Wrenches, pliers, ratchets, etc, too, not just sockets.

 

[Tallpilot]

Why splurge on a screwdriver set? I've seen the Williams set compared to the Snap-on set and it runs $70.

I'd splurge on ratchets over screwdrivers. Don't know.

Also worth looking into is Capri wobble+ extensions over Tekton. Its $30 for 4 or 5 extensions.

Capri is a good suggestion. I like wobble plus and they have a good warranty.

I agree that the Williams hard handles are great drivers and a good value. I happen to be an Instinct guy so while I have some things with the square handle I much prefer the soft grip Instinct. That seems to be a matter of personal opinion depending on a number of factors.

 

[bczygan]

What do you work on? Pro or home gamer? A list that long will scare away most newbies.

Best advice is to buy the basics (combo wrenches, ratchets, sockets, screwdrivers, pliers, etc) and then buy others as needed imo.

Home hobby wannabe.

My advice is like most here. Keep an eye on local CraigsList, hit garage sales and use GarageJournal to find deals on line.

I started out with no direction and kind of wandered around, buying things aimlessly. That's why there are duplicates of different brands.

Once I decided what I wanted to do, lists of wanted tools became a necessity. Then as I acquired tools, a list of what I had became important, so I didn't duplicate. My list is a good beginning checklist for general home repair, basic DIY auto maintenance and some machining, metalwork and woodworking. Take it and delete the things you won't be needing, based on your intended uses. I started out with almost nothing and over time have acquired much of what I wanted, for the best prices I could manage. Not that all the Harbor Freight stuff was gotten one visit at a time with coupons that reduced the list prices shown. Quality level was selected with the "most bang for the buck" as the prime requirement.

I also believe in buying the tools you want and need before you need them. That way you get to look for good deals. I haven't used many of my tools, but the ones that have been used, it was great to have them when needed. More tools equals more capabilities and better ways of doing things.

Bill

 

[HaroRider]

For sockets Id go with gearwrench. If you have some money SK or any othe USA made brand.

For wrenches Id do gearwrench as well. Maybe Craftsman USA raised panel. If you gave more money go for a USA made wrench SK, Snap On etc.

 

[jonesg]

My garage is cramped, will outgrow it quickly. It's a hobby for me, a career for my nephew. I work in software and can afford to invest in the right tools if they pay off

Cool, in that case I'd go with air tools.
A decent(not HF) compressor in the 30 gal range. Air tools are a lot cheaper than the li ion power tools.

Visit HF for hand tools , sockets etc.

If there's a load of junk in the garage get it out of there.
If there's no room for a rolling tool chest don't get one. Use pegboard.
Buy or build a workbench, add vise.
Mig welder is nice to have.

 

[Davefr]

to be completly honest, i wouldnt spend any money on SAE.

I disagree.

Modern automotive is metric but everything else is still mostly SAE. Why should the OP limit himself to just automotive.

With SAE, there's a ton of good used tools at g-sales, flea markets, etc. Get the SAE basics like wrenches, sockets so your SAE bases are covered.