steel building info

[fubar62172]

Hi Guys
I'm in the process of looking for a steel building to put up for my garage/shop. I'm looking for a decent building for a lowish price. Gonna have some machine shop equipment in it and a lift for my cars. There are a bunch of companies out there and they seem like used car salesmen so I figured I'd ask for some real life experiences. Shop will around 30x36 and be going up in SE Massachusetts so I'd also like to ask about if and how you insulated your buildings
Thanks for any input

 

[drivesitfar]

Fubar: i'm not sure STEEL BUILDINGS and CHEAP belong in the same sentence. i don't know if Mueller steel buildings has any suppliers in your area, but they aren't cheap so maybe you are looking for something else.

what have you found so far so maybe the members that have built or shopped for metal shop might be able to help you?

also if you go in your GJ profile you can put in your area and click on Avatar and download a picture like i have under my GJ name with my bison made of scraps and old tools.

 

[fubar62172]

I filled out the info...having hard time with avatar though
I'll look into Mueller thanks....so far I kinda like strat-o-span
Also I forgot I already asked this question in a different part of the forum...sorry for the repeat

 

[brycez28]

I just got a quote yesterday from Olympia Steel Buildings, 30'x40'x12', $12,900 delivered. Includes one overhead door opening, but not the door.

 

[padroo]

Most people call steel buildings pole barn but they are not. I have a concrete block building and they call it a pole barn too. Lol

The name for steel buildings that come to mind is Buttler. I helped install one when I was a millwright.
I remember the blueprints were a nightmare to read, some details were general and some were specific and figuring out which were which was the trick. But then again I failed blueprint reading when I took my craft test. Lol

 

[fubar62172]

I just got a quote yesterday from Olympia Steel Buildings, 30'x40'x12', $12,900 delivered. Includes one overhead door opening, but not the door.

That's not too bad
thanks
Mike

 

[Nighttrain]

Apples to oranges. there are a lot of differences in metal buildings so just don't price. 26or28 ga steel? Engineered or not. Bolt up or welded. ? I have a Mueller and am pretty happy with it for the money. I'm pretty sure they are just down south though. Get your requirements and specs then compare the options in your area. In my build you can see my weldup building. i also built a pole barn using the Mueller steel sheeting but on wood frame

 

[HAP]

I just got a quote yesterday from Olympia Steel Buildings, 30'x40'x12', $12,900 delivered. Includes one overhead door opening, but not the door.

I have a 40x60x12 Olympia commercial building. They were the best value when I was researching in 2007. The galvanized girts and purlins w SS roof screws set them apart in my opinion. Not one single issue with plans and/or product.

R,
HAP

 

[Bronson]

I put up a Mueller 30x40x12 about 12 years ago, and am VERY happy with it.

 

[fubar62172]

I put up a Mueller 30x40x12 about 12 years ago, and am VERY happy with it.

No Mueller by me
Thanks

 

[matt_i]

The catch in a red-iron building is the foundation is not a cheap piece to be ignored. It can be as expensive as the metal part of the structure! It has to be engineered for the column loading reactions, since the columns apply bending moments to the concrete below it.

 

[Farrier]

The catch in a red-iron building is the foundation is not a cheap piece to be ignored. It can be as expensive as the metal part of the structure! It has to be engineered for the column loading reactions, since the columns apply bending moments to the concrete below it.

It doesn't add that much more for a typical steel building. Sure the footings require more crete, but it's not crazy.

 

[HAP]

Matt I is right though. The key is "engineered foundation". You have to purchase the engineered drawings to match your building's requirement. The taller your walls, the more it costs in concrete due to the upturn moment of the walls from sail surface.
My foundation cost about the same as the building for may areas codes.

 

[brownbagg]

my 24x30x10 with slab and two overhead doors( doors included) was under $5000

www.acemetalbuildings.com

 

[fubar62172]

anybody have an american steel building?

 

[Orionrising]

I just got a quote yesterday from Olympia Steel Buildings, 30'x40'x12', $12,900 delivered. Includes one overhead door opening, but not the door.

what snow load?

 

[txvwnut]

If you want to build it yourself check with Future Steel I think they build most of the Quonset hut style buildings you see on the market.

 

[myyaz33]

This is the most i have seen Olympia mentioned. That is the company I went with on my 36x54. Have been very pleased with it. They had heavier tin on the roof and sides than other I looked at. The snow and wind load was engineered for my area in central Nebraska. The only thing I don't like is that the clear span design does make it more challenging to finish the interior. I think pole frame works better for finishing the interior yourself.

 

[readhead]

I sell and erect metal buildings and one thing is certain, it is a very cut throat business. The first thing you need to ask is if the dealer is a broker or if they are the actual manufacturer. The most famous broker is General Steel. Once the deal is done you are at the mercy of whoever is the supplier. If they are brokers, run.

When you get quotes compare weight. You are buying tonnage and the quotes should be pretty close. Make sure you supply proper snow, wind and code year requirements.

In my area stick frame and steel costs cross at around 1,200 square feet. Wood is a better value below and steel above. Steel is a forever building with unlimited possibilities. If you want to finish the inside no additional framing is required if the building is speced correctly. Watch out for expensive up selling. For instance overhangs, soffits and gutters are expensive to buy and to erect. They look good but be prepared.

My most important recommendation is to try to deal with a local metal building contractor. They can visit the site and give recommendations to give you the best value. Even if you only buy the building you will have a local contact if you run into problems. I can usually meet or beat internet prices even with my markup.

Finally, draw up a plan so everyone is quoting the same thing.

 

[fubar62172]

I sell and erect metal buildings and one thing is certain, it is a very cut throat business. The first thing you need to ask is if the dealer is a broker or if they are the actual manufacturer. The most famous broker is General Steel. Once the deal is done you are at the mercy of whoever is the supplier. If they are brokers, run.

When you get quotes compare weight. You are buying tonnage and the quotes should be pretty close. Make sure you supply proper snow, wind and code year requirements.

In my area stick frame and steel costs cross at around 1,200 square feet. Wood is a better value below and steel above. Steel is a forever building with unlimited possibilities. If you want to finish the inside no additional framing is required if the building is speced correctly. Watch out for expensive up selling. For instance overhangs, soffits and gutters are expensive to buy and to erect. They look good but be prepared.

My most important recommendation is to try to deal with a local metal building contractor. They can visit the site and give recommendations to give you the best value. Even if you only buy the building you will have a local contact if you run into problems. I can usually meet or beat internet prices even with my markup.

Finally, draw up a plan so everyone is quoting the same thing.

Thanks for all the info

 

[ryan77]

the quote I got form Olympia last year on a 30x60x12 was 11k, I see prices went up. but then again it was one of their buyer backed out deals...yea right.

 

[readhead]

"Buyer backed out" is the oldest scam in the book. It is always odd to me that they have exactly the building you need available.

 

[metschers]

Fubar,
I was in the same situation a couple of years ago. I went with World Wide Steel Buildings in Peculiar, Missouri.(about 25 miles south of Kansas City, Mo.) Very affordable. I actually went to their manufacturing plant to check it out. Very impressed. Check out their website.
They ship worldwide.
I went with a 38x48 12' sidewalls, all metal studs with 3" wall/ceiling insulation($14k). I drove (2-hour drive)with a 24' trailer and pick it up instead on delivery.
I highly recommend them. I've had zero regrets.

P.s. Check out my avatar.... that's my building.

Steve

 

[fubar62172]

Fubar,
I was in the same situation a couple of years ago. I went with World Wide Steel Buildings in Peculiar, Missouri.(about 25 miles south of Kansas City, Mo.) Very affordable. I actually went to their manufacturing plant to check it out. Very impressed. Check out their website.
They ship worldwide.
I went with a 38x48 12' sidewalls, all metal studs with 3" wall/ceiling insulation($14k). I drove (2-hour drive)with a 24' trailer and pick it up instead on delivery.
I highly recommend them. I've had zero regrets.

P.s. Check out my avatar.... that's my building.

Steve

looks very nice...thanks for the info

 

[hellspcangel911]

Hey Fubar,
I was just curious which manufacturer you ended up going with? Any local erectors in the region? I'm in CT and faced with the same situation


Thanks,
george