Steel Building Questions

[Tim G]

Been lurking on this site for a while,finally convinced myself I NEED A BIGGER SHOP!!!!
I'm thinking a 40 by 60 steel building,but I'm confused over the claims that every company makes that OURS are great,THEIRS are garbage,anyone have any experiance/suggestions?
I'm in Central MA,town is pretty leniant,Ideally,I'd like to have a company come in and erect the basic structure to be weathertite,and I could wire/plumb/HVAC it myself,with the guidance of friends in the trades,as I don't want to go broke doing it!
Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated!!!

 

[REFLEXX]

I think Miracle Truss is great, but then you get what you paid for. I paid a premium for the plans, steel and skin.

 

[W-Cummins]

I like the red iron framed buildings ( like mine see the link below), but they do cost more money than a pole building. If you need it erected you will have to deal with some local installers or some company that has local installers in MA. Check out the local yellow pages for steel building erectors. And call as many as you can to get quotes. There are diffrent levels of quality, and if you look close you will find them. I like the heavy gauge panels ( Much better than the "Standard" 29 gauge ****), better screws, better types of paint, insulation, and stuff like that...

William....

 

[bens]

I just had a Morton Building pole barn built. Morton's prices were a little higher than some other steel buildings, but the quality seemed higher as well. All in all I'm happy with their product and would recommend them.

EDIT***
Sorry, I misread your post. You're looking for a steel building. Mine was pole barn and it wasn't cheaper than steel as I mentioned above.

Good luck.

 

[GShelton]

www.steelbuilding.com

It is a great site. You can do an online layout of your building and get an instant quote. Plus they sell everything. Doors and all.

That is where I bought mine. The pre/post sale support has been fantastic! The building is great quality and everything fit where it was supposed to.

 

[W-Cummins]

www.steelbuilding.com

The building is great quality

As was mine, but he wants it erected and they don't do that :-(

William...

 

[GShelton]

No, but you can find local contractors to do the assembly. The easiest way I found them (because I wanted a quote to know what my time was worth) was to look for contractors that do mini-storage buildings.

 

[Tim G]

Thanks Guys!
How bad was it to erect a Steel building.com unit?
I'm pretty much a one man band,if I could snooker some buddies on a weekend,or two,or three.. to get the walls and roof up....
I have NO IDEA how long ,or difficult,it would be to do myself!
Do you need a crane to errect the trusses,or can it be done w/ a backhoe?
Did you guys insulate,and did you go w/ the kit from the company,or something different?
What did you do for flooring/footings? A bit confused on the difference between a pole barn and a regular building,pole barn sits on sauna tubes,as opposed to frostwall,correct?
Thanks again....

 

[Bull]

I believe that a pole barn sits on nothing more than poles set into the earth for it's "foundation", whereas a regular building has a wooden sill set atop a concrete footer that goes around the perimeter of the structure. I hope I am not giving false information, here.

Where in central MA are you located?

 

[Tim G]

As was mine, but he wants it erected and they don't do that :-(

William...

Just went to your building thread....WOW!!!

 

[Tim G]

I believe that a pole barn sits on nothing more than poles set into the earth for it's "foundation", whereas a regular building has a wooden sill set atop a concrete footer that goes around the perimeter of the structure. I hope I am not giving false information, here.

Where in central MA are you located?

Westminster,it's between Gardner and Fitchburg,maybe 60 miles NW of Boston

 

[iiibdsiil]

http://amsteel.com/

A buddy of mine works for them. He said all the people that sell those get their stuff from the same factory. They sell on Ebay too, which is basically cut throat. Be careful because they will **** you on the doors and accessories. They all do that. Ebay sales boost sales numbers, for a bigger kick back at the end of the year.

If you call and talk to these places and don't know your #'s for prices, they WILL bend you over in a heart beat. Making a $12000 sale with $7000 profit in it is normal business because people do not want to shop around. Ebay is the best place for the building, and then get the doors and windows from Home Depot or wherever. They are in the building business, not the door and window business. Their recommended installers is a joke too.

If you don't want it to be a "permanent" structure, per some codes, you can do the angle iron stuff on the ground and attach it to that. DO NOT BUY THAT FROM THEM. It is over priced about 4x's what you would pay for it at any store.

Just shop it out. Don't listen to the bullcrap "Well, the customer paid in partial, so all we are looking for is someone to pay the rest." Or the "We are factory workers..." They are ALL telemarketers. And it is ALL lies. They work on leads that are filled out and requested, so they are not cold calling. They also deal on the web, newspapers, etc.

 

[junkman104]

Just had this 30x50 pole barn fully insulated put up for $12,120 that does not include site prep or concrete. After the other costs were included I still have less then $14.00 per square foot in it. Its not a steel building but it got me the most building for the budget I had to work with.

 

[GShelton]

Thanks Guys!
How bad was it to erect a Steel building.com unit?
I'm pretty much a one man band,if I could snooker some buddies on a weekend,or two,or three.. to get the walls and roof up....
I have NO IDEA how long ,or difficult,it would be to do myself!
Do you need a crane to errect the trusses,or can it be done w/ a backhoe?
Did you guys insulate,and did you go w/ the kit from the company,or something different?
What did you do for flooring/footings? A bit confused on the difference between a pole barn and a regular building,pole barn sits on sauna tubes,as opposed to frostwall,correct?
Thanks again....

It was so simple! Like snapping Legos together... OK, So it was not that simple. LOL!

It was a lot of muscle for sure. But I put the building together with my wife and my father. My father is aging so he was limited on what he could do. (Like he can not be on a ladder anymore, so I would set the beam, get off the forklift, climb the ladder, bolt the beam, climb the other ladder and bolt the other side of the beam.) You can not technically do it by yourself, but you don't need much help, just a lot of equipment.

If you go to my website at http://www.houseofshelton.com and go to the gallery, there is a Garage Building Process album that shows from start to finish.

You will need to rent a long reach fork lift to get the garage off of the truck and for assembly.

I did insulate using on the radiant barrier insulation, but then again here in Central Florida it is only cold 2 days a year and even that is a joke.

Your foundation will have to be engineered by a local company. Dirt varies from location to location and you will need the proper footings for yours. I ended up with 92 yards of concrete under my building due to my footers.

And for the record... You can not bolt a steelbuilding.com building to the ground using angle iron.