Anyone know of a good steel door that is polyurethane foamed and has solid blocking (wood or engineered wood) in the area of the bores for the deadbolt and knob? I purchased a 3-0 door from my lumber yard which I figured would be much better than anything from a big box store, but pretty disappointed when I put the door hardware on it. You can't even get the deadbolt and handle tight without collapsing the steel on the foam and creating a dish in the door that you can see. You can see a vertical crease line about 1-1/4" from the edge of the door which is obviously all the wider the solid edge of the door is. It also appears there is a flimsy plastic cylinder that is foamed into the door where the bore is to be, which I assume is supposed to give the compressive support to the door for the hardware to tighten against?? It appears when my doors were bored, the cylinder was compromised because a portion of the cylinder is cut away. I'm not even convinced if the cylinder was fully in place it would work well, just seems like junk! I am planning to take up the quality issue with the lumberyard, but I'm fully ready for them to claim I'm overtightening the hardware... BS. This wasn't a cheap door from an expense, it was $700 pre-hung in a maintenance free jamb. Just appears the door is poorly designed, and cheaply made.
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Steel Entry Door Issue
- Thread starter sdo
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all the residential doors I have seen have a wood blocking where the preps are .
def take it up with them.
def take it up with them.
Lelandwelds
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If they wont make it good a two part foaming urathane in the 16lb range is like wood. They use it for boats and duck decoys.
http://www.uscomposites.com/foam.html
http://www.uscomposites.com/foam.html
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We sell a product that fixes that issue. Just search for ESP A1346.
https://www.craftmasterhardware.com...son/esa1346-esp-hudson-ames-door-lock-support
https://www.craftmasterhardware.com...son/esa1346-esp-hudson-ames-door-lock-support
Thanks Pate, I will keep that in mind. That looks like the concept of what is foamed in, but also damaged when the lock bores were put in. I found this is a masonite branded door. It's sad how they will cut cost by cutting corners and taking what appears to otherwise look like a decent door and render it trash in my opinion. Similar doors on my home I built 13 years ago are solid in the bores and I never had an issue. I would question the breach strength of this new door based on what I know now. I will see what the lumber yard says first, but I would like to see a different door in there regardless.
Update:
Talking with a rep from the company the supplies the lumber yard with this pre-hung doors, he tells me Masonite just stopped installing wood lock blocks several months ago and these "new" doors are far and away superior (interesting how that can be concluded after just a couple months). Rep says Masonite had too many problems with wood blocks registering through the sheet metal faces of doors and took large losses over the issue.... so they "improved" the design. So now instead you just get a weaker door, with the added feature of deformed sheet metal around the latch hardware. Suppose this was an improvement of quality or just the cost to produce the door? Turns out I have 2 similar doors on my home, made by Masonite, with the solid block and I have never had an issue or complaint. Maybe I'm just overly negative, but I think its the just a product of the never-ending quest to take cost of out manufacturing. If they save a dime a door and produce a million doors a year, they just added 100K to the bottom line. I'd also venture to guess that if the solid blocks truely did register through the door, it was only after the sheet metal thickness was incrementally reduced to the point that it no longer had the strength to avoid it. Just a buyer beware if anyone is looking for an insulated steel door from Masonite.
Talking with a rep from the company the supplies the lumber yard with this pre-hung doors, he tells me Masonite just stopped installing wood lock blocks several months ago and these "new" doors are far and away superior (interesting how that can be concluded after just a couple months). Rep says Masonite had too many problems with wood blocks registering through the sheet metal faces of doors and took large losses over the issue.... so they "improved" the design. So now instead you just get a weaker door, with the added feature of deformed sheet metal around the latch hardware. Suppose this was an improvement of quality or just the cost to produce the door? Turns out I have 2 similar doors on my home, made by Masonite, with the solid block and I have never had an issue or complaint. Maybe I'm just overly negative, but I think its the just a product of the never-ending quest to take cost of out manufacturing. If they save a dime a door and produce a million doors a year, they just added 100K to the bottom line. I'd also venture to guess that if the solid blocks truely did register through the door, it was only after the sheet metal thickness was incrementally reduced to the point that it no longer had the strength to avoid it. Just a buyer beware if anyone is looking for an insulated steel door from Masonite.