Steel Garage Kits?

[fasteddie313]

What do you think about garages like this?

http://midweststeelcarports.com/pro...rame-vertical-2-10x8-1-service-door-1-window/

 

[greg13]

I'm leaning towards steel too. Pay attention to snow & wind load ratings. I had to pass on a new (20 yr old) pioneer that was still in boxes for $2000 because it was only rated for 30 lb. snow load ( I need 55 lb.) .

 

[gearhead1]

I looked into it in great detail. The cost goes up for insulation, and having a ‘stamped’ plan. I ended up doing a stick built because the cost wasn’t that different. YMMV.

 

[TLGriff]

I used Worldwide Steel Buildings for mine. They designed it to my specifications, for my location and delivered it to my site. Great people to work with.

Tom

 

[JamesW84]

I looked into it in great detail. The cost goes up for insulation, and having a ‘stamped’ plan. I ended up doing a stick built because the cost wasn’t that different. YMMV.

Was cost the same with both complete with the same details?

When I was looking, it seemed like people said that the bigger you go (and taller), the more steel becomes a wash. Smaller steel buildings generally cost more than a stick-framed of the same size. It also depends on if you plan to insulate other than the blanket insulation.

That being said, I'm about 80% done with my 32x64 18 ft wall stick frame with mono trusses and a 20x64 lean-to and it has taken a lot of time to build it just my brother and I. I think I'm around 50k. Not sure how much the erectors charge to install the steel, but I think I'd be probably about the same if I would have went with steel and it would have been done much sooner and with a lot less work on my end. I could have possibly even rented equipment and we could have put it up.

Being 18' tall makes building it harder.

 

[fasteddie313]

We are looking at something around 20X25 - 24X30 for around $10k installed.. (not including foundation work)..

They are claiming 70 lb/sf snow load rating and have an upgrade to 5/12 pitch from 4/12..

Othet than cost factors, bang for the buck, are people generally satisfied with their steel garages VS stick built garages?

 

[fasteddie313]

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[aventino68]

I used Worldwide Steel Buildings for mine. They designed it to my specifications, for my location and delivered it to my site. Great people to work with.

Tom

How hard was it to assemble? The web page is pretty impressive, I'm curious to see my options for a steel build in Ontario.

 

[fasteddie313]

We are looking at about $13k after taxes for a 28X30X10 with 2 10X9 roll up doors and side door..

Also including the upgraded thickness on the legs/poles to 12ga and 70# snow load (closer/more trusses/legs)..
Pretty good warranties..

I'm thinking about canceling the roll up doors (doing electrics myself) and upgrading to 100lb/sf snow load..

How does that deal sound?

This is for my mother and grandmother, to park their cars and storage in the back..
(also my inheritance property)

I like the idea of steel because I can basically hose it out from top to bottom if I want..

This property is out in the woods so no concern of HOA or anything like that..

 

[readhead]

Ask if 70# snow load is roof snow or ground snow. Big difference, especially if you have to go through the building department. You want to know what the actual roof snow load is. Concrete details are very important. Don’t let them talk you into making the slab a foot larger all the way around.

 

[fasteddie313]

70 lbs per sq/ft on the roof.. Can upgrade to 100#..
Just about 100 miles north of me code requires 100# roof load, so that option is available..

They said something like only 3" more concrete around the building..

It would be contractor permits, not homeowner permits, so they deal with the permits and we talked about them sending over the blueprints and everything..

Maybe we should make them pull the permits before we sign a contract on the building?

 

[readhead]

Ideally concrete should not extend past the base rails or you will have water coming under the walls. Don't let them tell you they will caulk it. The extended concrete is strictly to make it easier for them.

 

[fasteddie313]

Price seems a little high but we can't get away with the usual 25# snow load and lighter gauge legs and paneling here..

What do you guys think on that price for a 28X30X10?

 

[LXCam]

70 lbs per sq/ft on the roof.. Can upgrade to 100#..
Just about 100 miles north of me code requires 100# roof load, so that option is available..

They said something like only 3" more concrete around the building..

It would be contractor permits, not homeowner permits, so they deal with the permits and we talked about them sending over the blueprints and everything..

Maybe we should make them pull the permits before we sign a contract on the building?

The problem with the pad extending out past the bottom rail is water travel back into the building. The reason behind the request to keep the pad from spalling (blowing out the edge) at the anchor points. If this is correct I'd suggest you talk with them about a Z flashing that goes under the skin and then covers over and down the side of the pad to eliminate water migration.

 

[fasteddie313]

Ideally concrete should not extend past the base rails or you will have water coming under the walls. Don't let them tell you they will caulk it. The extended concrete is strictly to make it easier for them.

Interesting..
I'll ask about exactly this.. Thank you..

 

[fasteddie313]

Well, we put the small down payment on it today..
Stupid or not..
So it is happening..

I have a ton of ground work to do though..
Which is kinda good..

 

[quattro_sinko]

I had no idea the kind of money these things run. My metal roof supplier was delivering a job a few years ago and mentioned he was woodstove shopping. I gave him a Vermont Castings stove I had just removed from a job the week before.
He showed back up a week later with the frame for a 18'x20' metal building with all necessary hat channel, etc. He was a rep for the metal building company a decade earlier and this kit had been taking up space in one of his barns. We do a lot of business back and forth, he hooked me up with the siding and roof metal, charging me a $1/ft of new panel, and gave me more than enough of his "seconds" (wrong length/wrong color/etc) from other jobs to enclose the building. I'll get around to spraying it so the exterior walls are all one color one of these days, lol.

 

[Joemctag]

Commercial metal buildings always have a rabbet about 1 1/2” high by 1 1/2” deep for the wall sheets to rest in , so wall sheets extend 1 1/2” below floor. Guess if you need 3” past framing, then the rabbet could be 3” deep (front-to-back). No rabbet + caulking along bottom of sheets = amateur job. Go look at any real metal building.

 

[Racy2]

I have a permit finally to build a 30 X 50 steel building. It has taken me about 2 years to get a variance and a permit from the Toronto conservation authority and then a building permit. It will have a 6 inch concrete pad with footings below the frost line. Insulated and fully built. According to the builder it should take about 2 weeks to build near the end of March when there is no frost at night.

 

[aventino68]

I have a permit finally to build a 30 X 50 steel building. It has taken me about 2 years to get a variance and a permit from the Toronto conservation authority and then a building permit. It will have a 6 inch concrete pad with footings below the frost line. Insulated and fully built. According to the builder it should take about 2 weeks to build near the end of March when there is no frost at night.

I'm in Ontario working through the Regs, is it a custom build or from a kit?