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Sticker Shock 30x40 New Build

douglee25

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First post but I'll give you some real world examples. I've been kicking around options for 4 years now. In 4 years pricing has gone up 50%+ easily since I started quoting.

Dallas, TX pricing for reference

1. Metal shop - 30x40x12, boxed beam foundation and slab, 2 non-insulated garage doors (10'), 1 entry door, no insulation/no electric, 2 windows - installed for 26k in 2016 (didn't proceed)

2. Metal shop - 40x50x16 (10X50 was a lean to in that construction for an RV), boxed beam foundation and slab, 2 non-insulated garage doors (14'), 1 entry door, spray foam insulation 1"/no electric, gutters and downspouts included, 2 windows - installed for 52k in 2019 (didn't proceed)

3. Metal shop - 40x50x16 (no lean to), boxed beam foundation and slab, 2 insulated garage doors (14'), 1 entry door with a 10'x10' lean to porch, spray foam insulation 1"/no electric, gutters and downspouts included, 4 windows, bathroom stub ups - installed for 56k - proceeding with this quote at a new house build location

I still have another 12k to add for brick and stone install on the building because it too has to match the house. Then I have about a $1500 electric feed and probably 4-6k for lighting and electrical.


I will be roughly at 75-80k complete for 2000 sq ft with 16' walls and IT WILL match the house.


My recommendation is to go find a metal building supplier like Mueller or similar and have them deliver you a building. You can finish off the exterior to match your house with brick/stone or hardie board, and you'll likely still save quite a bit of money. The advantage to a metal building is time to assemble or weld, the ability to have greater unrestricted ceiling height, greater unsupported spans, super easy to spray foam for insulation, easier to wire (no drilling holes through wood - just conduit and unistrut, etc). To me it's a more economical solution.
 
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cyclic

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Contractor just completed my 30x40 shop.
6" slab with extra beams and oversize rebar. Welded up I beam building with 2 10' roll door and one walk door. 12' eaves, Power to main panel, 125 amp sub panel, two 220v welder circuits, 2 20 amp outlet circuits, outdoor light, and four 15k lumin LED interior lights for electrical with plenty of room for me to add more as I go.

With a 20x10 concrete entry ramp it came out to $30k

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douglee25

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My contractor found insulated doors around R7 or R10 that were only slightly more expensive than roll up doors. The advantage of traditional garage doors are you won't have to deal with doors banging around or deal with air leaks. If you're going to spray foam, highly suggest getting an insulated door as well.
 

Chalk

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Can anyone suggest where I can get drawings for a 30 x 40 x 10 with storage trusses?
 
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finn

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Contractor just completed my 30x40 shop.
6" slab with extra beams and oversize rebar. Welded up I beam building with 2 10' roll door and one walk door. 12' eaves, Power to main panel, 125 amp sub panel, two 220v welder circuits, 2 20 amp outlet circuits, outdoor light, and four 15k lumin LED interior lights for electrical with plenty of room for me to add more as I go.

With a 20x10 concrete entry ramp it came out to $30k

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What’s the snow load?
 

Chalk

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I am not opposed to Metal but the couple of companies that I have talked to don't offer storage/attic trusses. Does anyone know of a company that does?
 

douglee25

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I am not opposed to Metal but the couple of companies that I have talked to don't offer storage/attic trusses. Does anyone know of a company that does?

You want a weld up metal kit vs a bolt together. With a weld up, you'll have a lot more ceiling space where you can essentially build a loft for attic support.
 

cyclic

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What’s the snow load?

We really don't care about snow loads here in central Texas. We mostly worry about tornadoes and heavy wind loads. With the beam size, purlings and layout being the same as a Mueller type building, I'm sure it will be fine.

Here's a view of the shop from my carport.
 

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finn

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We really don't care about snow loads here in central Texas. We mostly worry about tornadoes and heavy wind loads. With the beam size, purlings and layout being the same as a Mueller type building, I'm sure it will be fine.

Here's a view of the shop from my carport.

The point is, as several earlier posters noted, a price for a building in Texas, or most any other part of the country other than where the op is building, is pretty much irrelevant because of local factors like snow load, soil type, labor markets, and a raft of other considerations.

I have lived in Texas, Arizona, Florida, and Michigan. Costs and construction methodology vary widely, and a building in one area is a total fail in another.
 
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cyclic

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Totally agree on the area specific, but I'll also say that with the current global issue going on that the labor prices could definitely decrease as workers need more work.
 

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Been building this for the last two years has tubing in the floor for heat, full bathroom, mezzanine a/c. 40x60 15'ceiling 2x6 exterior fully insulated. I'm nearing 60k in material alone and im easily going to spend another 10k to finish. A freind has a 36x38 15'ceiling two 12'doors with a small bathroom. No heat or ac and he cut a check for around 90k turn key
 

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I built a 30x40 with 13ft ceiling height, 2 ft overhangs all around a year and a half ago in NJ. The pole building was $28600. No finished interior , insulation , garage door, decorative stone across the front 40ft, 4ft tall wall around back and one side,insulation, concrete, and electric. My wife said I'm either at 92 or 97k . I did spray foam, radiate heat in floor, high r valve garage door, 2 inch foam board under concrete, ship lap interior walls ,and galvanized ceiling. Also in my total $ add in a 4k forlift, $1700 for pallet racking, and about 4 grand for tool box's and cabinets. I first thought I could do it for 40k. Add's up fast!
 

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I built a 22x35 stick build with 500 sq. ft loft. Contracted myself and did probably 40 % myself and i spent 56k on building and 4k on driveway. Hardi siding, metal roof, insulation, full bath, sheet rock ,epoxy floor, mini split ac heat, roll up door and barn door. 20 led lights. That equals about $70 sq. ft and if i payed other subs and a contractor i would be at about $90
 

Tradeguy

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Wrong time to build.

Wait for the depths of the next economic downturn.

Bill

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I hired an architect to draw up plans to add a 25'W x 33'D garage addition to our existing 24x24 attached garage. The plans call for a cathedral ceiling with 12' height for a lift.

So far, one builder got back to me with a $61,000 bid. This includes electrical, but no interior finishing. (I'm in N.E. Ohio.) I certainly hope he's on the high side of things. :confused:
 

AMFJ

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I'm bumping this because I was in the same boat as many people here earlier this year. However, two weeks ago, I got a quote from a builder that many friends have used and he has done great work for. Price was almost half what I had previously been quoted, and he is starting today. A few of the quotes I got back in December had them starting in April and May.

So if you are still in a position to build, I'd suggest reaching back out to builders. They have become pretty damn good at returning calls/emails suddenly, and their prices have drastically changed.
 

tbody321

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I too received a quote that totally shocked me.
32x42 monolithic slab 6" thick, with 2 course of blo.
4600.00 excavating, stone base, compacted and site ready to pour.
25000.00 labor cost to form, pour, screed and run 2 course of block. PLUS MATERIAL COST.

Little outrageous if you ask me
 

jpcjguy

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I too received a quote that totally shocked me.
32x42 monolithic slab 6" thick, with 2 course of blo.
4600.00 excavating, stone base, compacted and site ready to pour.
25000.00 labor cost to form, pour, screed and run 2 course of block. PLUS MATERIAL COST.

Little outrageous if you ask me

:shocking: Ho-leeeeeeee Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet! You are at half my cost for my completed stick built 48x30x12 with attic truss, 4-5" thick slab (4000psi), 5-6 courses of block (2.5 visible above slab), 1/2 bath plumbing rough in, 2 man doors, 2 9x10 R-18 Clopay carriage doors installed.

Unbelievable....
 

tbody321

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Im not bs'ing. It is one kick in the nutts. I have 3 other
Quotes on order.. i tried the close aquaintance first. See where
That got me.
 

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I too received a quote that totally shocked me.
32x42 monolithic slab 6" thick, with 2 course of blo.
4600.00 excavating, stone base, compacted and site ready to pour.
25000.00 labor cost to form, pour, screed and run 2 course of block. PLUS MATERIAL COST.

Little outrageous if you ask me

I'd say so, $25K just for labor. That sounds like $5K labor and $20K for someone's new boat down payment.
 

rabies

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i bought a house with 2 car garage for 145k.
the 40x40x16 pole barn in the back was free lol.
 

DaveInHouston

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Wow! I had my 30’ x 40’ with 12’ eave built in Houston last year for $38,000. Pole barn structure (6”x6” treated square posts on 10’ centers) with 8” slab and 12” perimeter beam with one man door and one 12’ roll up door. I ran the electrical and installed windows. My first bid was $75,000.
 

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