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mhoffm911

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PLEASE post lots of pictures and details on how you accomplished the final product. I see you are in Ohio - I don't know if you have ever seen the Nature Stone products, but that's what I would love to have if I could afford it.
 

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Where did you get the materials?
Cost?
Ease of installation?
Process to put it on?
 
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Hollywood Finishes, Berea, Ohio. 440-234-2200, talk to Ed, tell him "SHOCKM" sent you.
 

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SteveL

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Looks awsome!!! How hard is it to put down and what is the approx. cost per sq ft? Any restrictions as to what you can coat over like existing epoxy?
 

r_wain

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Thanks for the pictures...looks awesome.

How does it feel when it is finished? Smooth or does it have the pebble feel like it looks?
 

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I always wondered about the ability of this finish to handle spilled liquids (since it looks allot like a rice crispy treat finish). . If you had an oil spill would it just disappear until the whole floor void filled up ?? OR do you top it off with clear coat to a smoother finish??,
I do like the looks, sharp job...H
 
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It comes in a variety of finishes. Mine is the more pourous "pebble like" finish. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio so the ability for snow/salt/water to make its way to the drain is important. To clean it, I will shopvac and rinse once in a while. The finished product really looks great. As far as oil/gas spills, I'll put rubber mats down when I'm working on the cars.
 

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r_wain

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Thanks I would prefer the "pebble like" finish too. Now one last question...How difficult was it to level it out? And about how much is it a sqft?
 

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It's now February...how's the floor doing? Does it need sealed periodically? Does water drain well and is there any puddling from a low spot? Thanks. By the way, I live in Brunswick Hills and will keep Hollywood Finishes in mind. Nice car lift too.
 

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Looks like he made their gallery page: http://hollywoodfinishes.net/page7.html

From the pictures above, I hadn't realized that it was actual pebbles:
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Pretty cool looking, but I'm curious how much the epoxy fills in between the pebbles? Does the epoxy even things out? Or are there spaces that stuff can get down into?
 

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If you have a "Design Within Reach" (DWR) home furnishings retail store in your market, you can check it out there, They use this flooring in almost all their stores. On the ones I've seen it appears that the covering is very porous.

My concern would be drainage. From what I can tell if a qt of oil hits the ground, it would drain down to the concrete under surface, with no easy way to extract it.

Interesting that even their website, on their product info page, has this notation:
"Once installed, system should be top coated to prevent any staining of flooring - not recommended for garage floors."
 

michael Mccoy

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This looks like a chatahoochee stone that all Floridians have used for many years. It is a typical patio , porch floor that has to be sealed every couple of years.I do not think it would be good for dragging transmissions or dollies accross it. It is beautiful but I do not think a garage is the place for a floor like this
 

WolverineCoatings

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It is Chatahoochee... or Epoxy Stone... or... Epoxy River Rock... or Epoxy Carpet... There are TONS of names...

These days... you can get ALOT of different blends of stones. Whether you have a smooth finish or a more textured finish depends on the size of stones and how tightly they are packed when applied. You can also fill in the voids with clear epoxy or urethane if you want to keep spills out.

Epoxy Stone can last a really long time if you keep up the maintenance on it. If it is outdoors it really needs to be sealed every couple of years depending on the quality of the sealer you use and the traffic load. Most people use a solventbased thermoplastic acrylic sealer which is cheap and easy (like some of the girls I knew before I met my wife!).

OK, I know someone is going to ask... Yes we make it... No we won't sell it for a DIY application. Sorry... trust me... I'm doing you a favor. This is one of those applications where it really is best to let a pro get it looking level and smooth.

It looks like Holywood Finished does a good job...
 

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Ive seen these type of finishes for pool decks. Using pebbles is fine but for garagee they need to be sealed even more so than flakes. its similar to the colored quartz I use. instead of scraping and sweeping like on the chip system, we stone the floor before sealing it with a clear epoxy.

it looks like this is a trowel down version. if the stones werent sealed, expect dirt, oil and grime to stain it and make it difficult to clean. the upside is that it has a natural color finish and will hide dirt very well.

anything could be embedded into epoxy to create any type of look. You can use pebbles, glass, recycled rubber, whatever you can think of. just remember to seal it.
 

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Hi garageguy,

The way this system is applied is not a broadcast system like most people would do with Colored Quartz. This type of application is more like 1/4 trowelable if you are familiar with that. Basically, you mix a binder (Epoxy Resin and Hardener)... pour it into a cement mixer or other 'drum type' mixer... then you add the rocks into the mixer with the binder. All of the surfaces of the rocks get coated so every surface is 'sealed'. Typically on indoor applications the sealer does not wear, flake, or dissolve away beneath the 'wear surface'. So, the rocks typically stay 'sealed' unless they come under a chemical attack that the binder is not compatible with. The top surface of the rocks may need to be sealed every once in awhile depending on the traffic.
 

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Thanks for the lesson but I did figure it was a trowel down version. Something I do not do or ever intend to do. From what I heard from some experts is that some trowel versions arent as resin rich as a poured system. How true this is I dont know. Maybe it depends on the applicator??

Ive seen this same exact system on pool deck surfaces before and it seemed very rustic. meaning there was alot of nooks and crannies and crevices. not to ideal for a garage but pretty cool for an indoor pool deck. maybe instead of "sealed" i should of said embedded. I like to completely embedd my aggregate into my resin.
 

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Maybe not ideal for YOUR garage, but great for mine.

relax 930, i wasn't commenting on your specific job. How could I if I haven't seen it personally. I was talking about the system I have seen around pool decks. Good luck with your floor
 

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Thanks for the lesson but I did figure it was a trowel down version. Something I do not do or ever intend to do. From what I heard from some experts is that some trowel versions arent as resin rich as a poured system. How true this is I dont know. Maybe it depends on the applicator??

Ive seen this same exact system on pool deck surfaces before and it seemed very rustic. meaning there was alot of nooks and crannies and crevices. not to ideal for a garage but pretty cool for an indoor pool deck. maybe instead of "sealed" i should of said embedded. I like to completely embedd my aggregate into my resin.

Yeah, it does depend on the applicator. We only sell the Binder Resin in drums... no kits... no 5's... Almost everyone we sell it to gets their own rocks. So, they each have their own formulation. Sometimes they do use one of our more expensive BondTite products to fill in the voids if they have heavy traffic or just don't want the voids. However, these systems will hold up fine with the cheaper binder even if they are not filled.

Good Luck with your floor 930... It really looks like they did a good job!
 

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I do epoxy / urethane floors for a living. A while back I had the displeasure of removing an epoxy / river rock floor so that we could put down a smoother finish. A large part of the floor was coming up where there had been a lot of oil spilled on it. It really did not perform very well as a garage floor - too porous, too rough to clean.

The scraped off rock did a nice job of filling the pot holes in my helper's driveway though.
 

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I can't tell by the far away pics but I'm guessing its like my quartz floor only not sealed and poly'd and also troweled on instead of poured and broadcasted. Hey 930, can you get us a close up of your floor? Here is a pic of a quartz q28 job. Same concept, just different aggregate.

This was actually a resurface job.
 

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