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Macrosill

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In my town I can put up as many 144sq ft sheds as I want without a permit. Anything bigger than 144sq ft requires permits and higher property taxes.

I am planning on a new shed to be able to empty some stuff out of my garage to make it more useable. Thinking of either moving my boat, kayaks, canoe, snow blower and other things into it or leave that stuff in the garage and turn the shed into a workshop.

What's the most efficient dimensions for 144 square ft?. 12x12. 8x18. Or any other dimension?




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Where are you on LI? I'm in Oyster Bay and its 100sq feet for me. Anyway, 8' is pretty small. I'd go 10 or 12 min for length or width
 

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Square is going to be the most economical as you have less wall area per SF of floor area. That being said, how long are the boats? a 15' canoe will be difficult to fit in a 12'x12'.
 

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Well I guess I'll be the first to say this but unless your certain you don't want to pay for the permit and slightly higher taxes (how much higher can they be with a little shed?) I would go big as your budget allows because you will run out of room fast - no matter what you put in there. Just my opinion..
 

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"What's the most efficient dimensions for 144 square ft?."

to answer your question though, it depends on what you intend to use it for and store in it.
 
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Macrosill

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If I go bigger I need to get a surveyor in, draw up plans, get then reviewed and approved by the building dept and then multiple inspections and pay higher taxes. An if the survey shows anything on the property that is not currently on the original plans then it becomes a big mess. I have gone that route before so I would rather not open up a can of worms if I do not have to.

If I decide to store the boat in there then it needs to be 8x18. If I leave the boat in the garage and make the shed a workshop then I can go any layout as long as it is under 144 sq ft.

I am leaning towards the 8x18 to store the boat, kayaks and canoe so I can get back my garage. The garage is heated and the shed will not be.
 
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Macrosill

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Out of curiosity, how HIGH can you go? If you can store your kayaks hanging on end . . .

my largest kayak is almost 14' long. I am not sure about a height restriction but I don't want a 20' tall shed in my back yard. Wifey might get a little upset at that one. Lol

If the shed isn't a permanent structure, do you still have to follow those permit rules?


Yes. The only way around the 144sq ft rule would be to put up one of those "temporary" canvas style garages. Then it would not be a structure as I understand it.

I have also looked at some of those portable garages from harbor freight. 10x17. I could then store the boat and a kayak track side by side for 200 bucks.



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I would go 8x18, on a side of a 18x18 slab. Then one whole side could open up to the slab. Heck you could put a car port on the slab.
 
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Macrosill

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I would go 8x18, on a side of a 18x18 slab. Then one whole side could open up to the slab. Heck you could put a car port on the slab.



I can't pour a slab, that is considered permanent and I would get taxed on it. I can only do framed on piers, pavers or gravel.


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Macrosill

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End result.
10x17 harbor freight portable garage
2x6 PT framed floor
3/4 PT plywood deck

Larger storage space, no permit needed, no property tax increase.

Cost was about 550.00. Cheaper than a framed shed. When the cover needs replacing I will just by another for under 200 bucks. If it last two years it will take about a decade to break even on cost and I will be long this state in 12 years or less.

All it has to do is keep my boat, kayaks and canoe out of the weather.

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How about a pair of 12x12's built extremely close (like almost sharing a common wall.) Then, once everything gets built, knock down the shared wall and fill in the space.

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How about a pair of 12x12's built extremely close (like almost sharing a common wall.) Then, once everything gets built, knock down the shared wall and fill in the space.

Ray

That reminds me of my late uncle's house--no permission for a basement. So he built it, filled it full of sand, got his C of O, and then spent a few weekends digging it out. (He had to put in an outside entrance though--to hard to disguise otherwise...):)
 
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