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hard12catch33

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Might seem simple enough but I have a really hard time keeping my workbench clear of all the random stuff.

I've got a little bit of everything ON my workbench.... lightswitches, wire, random parts, and all sorts of other items that aren't easy to stack or put away neatly.

How do you guys keep all of the random stuff organized?
 
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Sometimes you have to to throw **** out.
Also get some cheap tool bags from HD and use them. Bag of electrical stuff, bag of plumbing stuff. Looks better than piled up and they are cheap. Just grab when you might need sommuts.
 

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I have the same issue, even despite trying my best to organize, there seems to always bee a few homeless odds and ends. I recently freed up a drawer on one of my toolboxes and threw all the **** into it. I'm not sure yet if it's a good long-term solution, but I know where all the odds and ends are and my workbench is clean.
 

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I do periodic sweeps.

The issue is the periodicity...weekly? A dream. Every 6 months? Sadly that was the reality.


However, in the last 4-5 months Ive been more disciplined. I have an area where I leave a few bins for initial sorting- think the returns section at Home Depot: Plumbing, wood, electric, hardware, etc. I finsh a project and unload the totes/bags/boxes and do a quick sort into the main bins.

Tools get set on the bench next to the toolbox and I try to get these sorted and away every few days- before the next task/project.

I even have a bin for 'new parts to go back to the store'.

When I see the bins getting filled, or have the inclination, I will go though them and do a final sort- so the electic bin may have wire nuts, ground jumpers, a few boxes some PVC fitting and old parts. These will be separted into their final storage locatiosn. As follows:

My main storage consists of plastic bins, with labeling. Electrical stuff for example is probably 8,9 bins- each of those sorted based on volume and type. Power tools consists of parts for tools, blades, planer jigs, etcetc. I also have little 'sub boxes' that can go into these- like one with PVC clamps...or one with Unistrut hardware.

One box is 'appliance parts'. Over the years, parts and fittings and odds and ends from a stove, dishwasher,icemaker or AC unit; spare belt for the attic fan- whatver. If it is a fixed home appliance and I think I might like to have it in 5 years, it goes in there.

Thats my system! Ive discovered that once you set it up- whatever works for you- it is surprisingly easy to just keep on it. Just took me 40 years

;)
 

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It is so disheartening, when you go to find a tool to do some task, and can't find it.

Makes you not want to do any project at all.

So the ONLY remedy for this, is to immediately put tools away after use. Not next week, or tomorrow, or in an hour, but right now, before you do anything else.

Then your tools are exactly where you left them, and you always know where that is.

It is a simple habit and simple solution.

Bill
 

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I have a rack that house folgers coffee cans, at an angle.. it hangs off the wall, and holds
15 rows of 5, and the stuff goes in there..
I have another set up for hardware..
 

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Like others have mentioned above, I have bins dedicated to certain tasks. Electrical, Paint, plumbing etc. They hold my inventory of stuff required for each less any bigger tools that cross between lines of work.
The other way I keep organized is a second toolbox dedicated to contracting equipment. This has helped tremendously to keep stuff organized.

For my benches, cleaning up after a job/day is key to knowing where everything is. When putting all your tools away you know if you're missing one right away. The only pain is having to dig the tools back out the following day. BUT, I would take that over searching far and wide across the garage for a tool that I'm holding in my hand...


For the homeless odds and ends, I tend to throw out if I know I won't be using them within the next year or so. It's hard to throw away perfectly good stuff, but there comes a point where you have collected too much junk and it will take forever to dig out from.
 

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I try a little of this and a lot of that, nothing seams to work
 

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Till I can get some nice parts bins, for now I buy those little clear containers at walmart, usually less than a dollar a piece (sterlite?). They stack well and you can write or stick a label on them.

But yeah, I always try to clear my workbench off after finishing a project. I don't have a bin just for switches, but I do have one for electrical (boxes, plugs, switches, wire nuts, etc...)

Just depends on how often you use something. The more often it's used the more granular things are sorted. The less often, then they get lumped into one box for space-saving...
 

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I save these plastic peanut jars (actually any size clear plastic jar) to keep small random stuff in. I also keep the boxes that reems of paper come in at the office and put stuff in there in groups with a label on the outside.
 

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I have several methods depending on what it is. My shop has been in the basement of my house for the past 10 years, and there has been no built-in storage, no on-wall storage and no workbench to speak of, so everything I use gets taken out at the start of a project and put away at the end. I use the Stanley/Stack-On/Harbor Freight parts organizers with the little removable bins for most of my small parts and hardware, plastic shelf/hanging bins for some hardware items, and Rubbermaid or Sterilite stacking totes (10-12 gallon size) with labels on them for larger items or specific trades. So all of my plumbing fittings, for example, are in a lidded tote labeled "Plumbing Fittings". That has a couple of smaller bins inside of it, one with copper/brass fittings and the other with misc. stuff like teflon tape, pipe dope, brushes, etc.

I try to visualize the end use of an item, and the first word that comes to mind , is the bin that it rests in. A light switch would be in the "Electrical" bin, in the sub-bin with switches and receptacles. There's also sub-bins in that one for breakers, lamp parts, and wall plates, for example. Wire nuts and small items are in one of the aforementioned Stanley or HF parts organizers, and those are all labeled. I don't want to have to look for something for more than a minute or two, so everything is well organized and labeled. My hand tools and power tools rest in a couple of vintage 4-drawer file cabinets and a small Kennedy roll-around box.

I do have a half-assed workbench in my new garage, and even the piles on top of it are organized until I can get the garage finished and move my organization out there. I don't know what I'm going to do with all the possibilities in a new garage - I've been living without permanent storage for so long, but my current system seems to work. It was always intended to be temporary, but I can't imagine something different at this point. At least the bins, organizers and totes will sit on shelves and cabinets dedicated to storage.
 

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the top of my bench gets a little cluttered at times.
when i cant find the top anymore, i stop and clean up.

most of what "lands" on the bench is misc hardware i pick up, when i get a big enough pile i sit down and sort through it.

the winch for my mud truck has been sitting there (off and on) for a year, i'll get around to fixing it and get it mounted one of these days...
no need to get in a hurry :lol_hitti

in my defense, i did have to build the mount, box the frame, cut the bumper and stinger, fab mounts for the roller head, and run all the wiring.
i havent done anything to it over the winter, but i did do a couple small projects for the wife....


:beer:
 

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It is so disheartening, when you go to find a tool to do some task, and can't find it.

Makes you not want to do any project at all.

So the ONLY remedy for this, is to immediately put tools away after use. Not next week, or tomorrow, or in an hour, but right now, before you do anything else.

Then your tools are exactly where you left them, and you always know where that is.

It is a simple habit and simple solution.

Bill


What happens if your working on the place to put your tools? Then how do you put them where they belong?:dunno:

I've lost a few tools in my garage renovation I'm sure I'll find eventually but now I probably have a few multiples I really don't need. Guess that's what happens when you bring your stuff in before your finished and have to move it 80,000 times. :sad:
 

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It is so disheartening, when you go to find a tool to do some task, and can't find it.

Makes you not want to do any project at all.

So the ONLY remedy for this, is to immediately put tools away after use. Not next week, or tomorrow, or in an hour, but right now, before you do anything else.

Then your tools are exactly where you left them, and you always know where that is.

It is a simple habit and simple solution.

Bill

I follow the ^^^ bczygan ^^^ approach.

The only time I don't put all the tools / parts away and sweep up is if I know I'll finish the project tomorrow.

For me the key is 8 base cabinets, 8 wall cabinets, a decent size tool chest and a 10 ft x 20 ft storage area.
 

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Ha seems like every time I pick it all up put it away somewhere I can't ever easily find it the next time.

So I mainly just leave it where it is...

because I like to find it where I left it :D
 

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okay, if you cant manage a shop, garage, how would you manage a van, commonly things are just piled up, i know one plumber with a sprinter with racks on both sides and a heap of tools in boxes on the floor so you cant walk on the bare floor you have to climb over stuff
 
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i bought a revolving tray setup and harbor freight and filled it instantly upon getting it assembled. I am thinking about getting a parts rack setup from northern tool the only thing holding me back is the price
 

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Might seem simple enough but I have a really hard time keeping my workbench clear of all the random stuff.

I've got a little bit of everything ON my workbench.... lightswitches, wire, random parts, and all sorts of other items that aren't easy to stack or put away neatly.

How do you guys keep all of the random stuff organized?

Depends on the size and quantities, but... I tend to store stuff like that in these kitty litter containers. There are not round and stack easily. I group the stuff together (electrical, plumbing, etc. At some point, I filter through the stuff. That odd stuff that is accumulated here and there can be a PITA to store.
 

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Any flat surface in my garage is covered, deeply covered, with all sorts of stuff. I am at that point in life where I easily forget where I put stuff so having it out in the open helps a lot.
 

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Depends on the size and quantities, but... I tend to store stuff like that in these kitty litter containers. There are not round and stack easily. I group the stuff together (electrical, plumbing, etc. At some point, I filter through the stuff. That odd stuff that is accumulated here and there can be a PITA to store.

Hello to my precious friend! I love those litter pails. The kitties are long gone but the pails are in use throughout my garage. They are stackable and airtight. Just remember to use a marker to write the contents on one side. I store random stuff like African ebony wood, shoprags, saw files, handplane parts, miscellaneous hardware, and even vise parts. The buckets are great for keeping vise parts together during refurb.

I also use one of these buckets for citric acid cleaning of handplanes. It keeps the mess out of the sink. Just put a 1 gallon mark on the side and scrub away.

:beer:
 

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Fastenal parts drawers work well for me.

Fuses/relays/bulbs

air/fluid brass type fittings

hose clamps/O rings

wire terminals

Rivets/Rivnuts

And so on.

Common trend I see when seeing alot of GJ members garages is the habit of keeping around stuff they "might" need. That works fine if you dont mind clutter, and dont need the space they keep.

For me, I hate clutter. I have adopted the rule that if I do not have a place to store the thing, and no immediate use for it, the thing gets chucked.
 

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I should have snapped a pic of the truckload went to the dump today, they are on a second modest load now. I also clean when finished and on occasion in the middle. I have places for most stuff, when it gets too deep do a little sorting.
 

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Table top bin systems work for me. I also use the multi-drawer plastic cabinets. Both start off pretty inexpensive (Northern Tool mostly). They come in every size you can imagine, and you can mix and match so you get the right sizes for your "Collections." Table top versions, free standing versions, even cabinet style ones in case you want that overly tidy look. Best of luck! Be sure to toss up a couple pics of before and after!
 

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Depends on the quantity you want to store. Small screws ...under 1/4-20... are sorted into the bench top clear plastic organizers. Larger hardware in Akro Mills plastic bins. Plastic tubs for bulky stuff with labels and stacked on shelves. And yes....constantly putting stuff away. It IS a job.
 

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Group like items together in boxes, crates or bins depending on size of items.

I have totes of painting supplies, electrical supplies and bulky stuff like that. These sit stacked 2 high on HF 12x18 dollies so I can roll them out and dig thru them.

I have shoe boxes and small totes full of household extension cords, plumbing flotsam and hardware like knobs and knockers. These sit on shelves and are well labeled.

I have Plano containers in a 4 "drawer" Plano rack for misc. hardware. Same use things in the same tray. Electrical box has wire nuts, ground screws and misc fixture screws. Pick the tray out and bring it to the job. Another has all my picture hanging bits.

The hard part is being ruthless - everything must have a home. I fail on this task and piles build up . . .

Good Luck

Jim
 

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First, lots of shelves. Then, lots of things on the shelves to put things in. Coffee cans, Akro bins, Steralite boxes, a mix of things, just have lots of places to put stuff. Organize and sort it out, label as necessary.

Then, the most important part. Train yourself to never, ever leave stuff out. Put everything away every time you leave the shop. Put stuff away as soon as you unpack it from Home Depot/Lowes. Put it away when you're finished with that part of the job. Put stuff away Saturday evening even if you're sure you'll be back to work on it Sunday morning. Don't use random flat surfaces (table saws, outfeed tables, workbenches) for storage. You will find you get a whole lot done/will be more likely to use your table saw (for example) if you don't have to move 30 pounds of **** off of it before you can do anything. And get rid of scraps, dead parts, all the old broken things someone gave you.

Oh, and move about every 15 years or so...
 
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I had this problem until I had stuff everywhere. This was my fix and it works great. Zoom in on the picture and read the labels. Good luck.
 

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Here's the permanent solution, throw it away. You don't need to keep everything. If you purchased something you didn't need, return it.

Don't buy bins, shelves and drawers. Instead, just throw i away.

This one concept will save you time, money and your sanity.
 

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Found anything that takes off that damn super glue they use on the labels?
Joe H
 

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Found anything that takes off that damn super glue they use on the labels?
Joe H

I use Lay's dip jars to store hardware in my cabinet drawers. They switched from paper labels to plastic labels with more glue a while ago, so i use Denatured Alcohol (DNA) to remove the glue.

Jim
 

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Found anything that takes off that damn super glue they use on the labels?
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Find some "Goo Gone". I peel them off as best I can, sometimes under hot running water. Then use the Goo Gone on what's left.


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Throw it in the junk drawer.
Alternatively, build a dome-top workbench so the junk just rolls off of it.
I have to admit, it is a challenge. Kurt Vonnegut said, "If you think it's a mess in here," (points to the lab or shop), "you should see what it's like in HERE." (points to head)
 

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I have mid-sized plastic totes on an overhead shelf with big labels on the sides. Trailer parts, electrical, PVC pieces and fittings, wire and cable, tarps are just a few categories I can think of off the top of my head. If one gets too full, I figure out a way to split it into two.

I also have another "to be filed" bin down near the floor where I put things that go into one of the overhead bins until I take time to put things away. This one probably does more to reduce clutter than the others.
 

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The title of this thread is perfect. It describes what bugs the **** outta me all the time.I just didn't know how to put it in words.

Lots of good ideas here.
 

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I have this discussion with my dear ol' Dad ALL THE TIME! some stuff just needs to be thrown out, which he's improving marginally at (I still have two old corded phones from probably 1980 on the shelf back in the back. I'll definitely be reading through more closely to get some ideas for the home shop as well, but the piece of advice I can tell you is this: It's only worth keeping if it will do a particular (and reasonably possible in the near future) job and YOU CAN FIND IT WHEN YOU NEED IT! I went out and bought headlight bulbs for my car and found that the single bulb i needed was in the shop (from another vehicle that i don't even know what it was) months later.

Likewise think about how you go about starting projects? Chances are if you are going to do a larger project like a renovation where you will need a few switches, outlets, etc. you are going to go out and purchase parts and supplies. there's little sense in keeping 5 or 10 outlets and switches in stock, taking up space and or getting lost when you actually want them. Keep a single or pair of switches and outlets in an electrical toolbag or bin, and label it!

Plumbing is much the same but all together different in my eyes. If you have a plumbing fix, it can be pretty urgent, so it helps to have some abs and copper pipe and fittings on hand, just keep it relatively organized.

I can attest that I am also guilty of having too much random stuff. I have a handful of electronics parts, nuts, bolts, washers, screws, etc that get salvaged off of various projects, but i keep these things in drawer units where they are easily identifiable. I don't keep every piece either. if a nut or bolt is rusty beyond what can be cleaned with a quick trip to the wire wheel, it goes in the scrap bin.
 

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For various parts and supplies, I use the clear shoe boxes (in various sizes) from Container Store. Clear makes life a lot easier, they're easily stack-able. I also label them clearly (ink jet printed) "Door Hardware", "Landscape Lighting", etc...

Nuts, bolts, screws, washers are in those Flambeau 39 (or whatever) drawer cabinets. Again, clearly labeled. If I need #8x1-1/2" wood screws, I can go right to them.
 
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