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Storm damage - How to remove trees

spotco2

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So we had a little wind and rain this evening and lost a couple of tree's.

Everyone is safe but one of my buildings caught 3 trees. The roof and 1 wall took most of the hit. What would be the easiest way to get these off the building causing the least amount of damage?

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Easiest and safest way would be with a crane, but only the professionals seem to have one available.
Years ago I had a tree land on my house during a storm. I hired a professional tree trimming company to lift it off the roof and off some of my vehicles. They did a great job without any additional damage.
 
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I'm going to talk with insurance company in the morning about that. Not sure we can get even get a bucket truck back in there.
 

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Depends what you're comfortable with. I'd go up on the roof to the left and start carefully cutting part way through every foot so the tops droop down to the ground, then when you can reach from the ground start cutting your way back from the top of each tree to the peak of the roof. Talk to the insurance company first to see what they'll cover, they may just want to start over making it moot.
 

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cut it off a few feet past the building (the top of the tree). Watch for spring back. From there you can start cutting off manageable size pieces
 

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1st. Call your homeowner's ins. co. claims. They will likely take care of it professionally for you and safely.
If not, you'd better be well equipped if you plan to handle it. I've watched this unfortunate situation before :-(. They start at the tree tops and remove weight a piece at a time. They'll either crane it off once they reach the roof top or leave the piece on the roof and cut the bottom till the only thing left is on the building. Then piece by piece till it's down. Lots of saw chips, but that is the least of your problems.

Sorry about your situation. Have family in NW Ga. Where are you located?
 

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Did that happen Monday evening. That storm front came through central GA between 7 and 9. Our EMC still had 3000 w/o power at 2:30 this morning. I'm thinking call the insurance co first. Tree removal plus major repair may = demo and start over. Sorry for the damage but I'm glad it wasn't your Home. Stay safe.
 

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So sorry for your damage. Hope everyone was safe during the storm.

FIRST . . . Document damage with lots of pictures like you're doing. Also need to immediately protect any other items from damage by putting tarp over shed to prevent any further water damage, etc.

SECOND . . . Contact insurance company to begin claim process. They should tell you whether you can do removal yourself, or if they want a tree removal company.

Likely if you do work yourself that might be for free, and put you at risk of injuring yourself. Thus, be careful whichever way you go. Running a chainsaw over your head is a real NO . . . NO.

Be SAFE and good luck with clean-up.
 

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cut it off a few feet past the building (the top of the tree). Watch for spring back. From there you can start cutting off manageable size pieces

First, make a cut on the underside so that the part being cut off will not swing on the bark as you cut from the top. This cut does not need to be deep.

When making the cut from the top side, go a couple inches further out. As you cut from the top, the cut you made on the bottom will collapse giving you additional relief.

Spring back can be wicked especially with a big root ball still attached !
 

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Most insurance companies will pay when a tree falls on your property. By property I mean a fence, building, shed, piece of equipment or something other than just falling to the ground. That is unless it falls on the ground and blocks your driveway, then they will remove it too.

They will try and get out of it by saying trees and bushes aren't covered but most policies have a clause in them that will not only remove the tree from what ever it fell on but to also remove the whole mess from the property stump in all. Read your policy to be sure before you call so you will be ready. Most people around her normally have $1000.00 deductibles on their policies but that is the total damage of the claim and not for each item so you have enough damage to get them to fix this. You just have to figure out a way to get your deductible covered. Tree companies around here put $2500.00 to $3000.00 a tree, for trees around the size of the ones you now have on your man cave and that is for cutting it off the building and then removing it from the property. The stumps are then ground down to nothing but dirt and chips.

If you feel comfortable working with a chain saw and are not afraid to burn the brush and wood, you can use that to burn up the stumps yourself and save your deductible. You can probably work out a deal with them to give and estimate for the total cleanup then work out a deal with them to just cut it off the building and leave the rest for you to take care of.

I had the same problem a year or two ago only about 10 times worst. I had almost 90 huge oak trees blow over with 29 of them landing on different things from the roof of the house, my partially constructed pole barn, well, fish pond, tools and equipment, trailers, driveway. They paid to have every one of them removed accept the ones that just fell in the yard and not hitting anything. I paid a tree man to give me an estimate and then I did the work myself. I cut up the wood in long lengths, that is the stuff that I didn't burn up burning the huge stumps and when It was over I had enough fire wood for ten years or more and also enough money to do some improvements around the house and some additional additions to my pole barn.

Don't forget they will replace your building and it's contents or anything else that was damaged, so make sure you list everything that was in the building and don't slight yourself no matter how worthless you may think some of the things are, put them down and put a number on it because you are probably not going to get full price for anything until it is replaced. Use the junky stuff as throw aways so when you go shopping you will get enough to at least replace the good stuff and maybe even up grade a few choice items.

The main thing is don't slight yourself and under estimate the damage because they are going to do that for you with depreciation so don't help them slight you. Dealing with insurance companies is scary business to some people and they will do what ever the can to cut their cost so it's up to you to get what you have coming and not worry about their bottom line. your bottom line is what you need to worry about. I'm not saying to lie or try an cheat them just get what you have coming within the limits of your policy. And, don't worry about them going up on your insurance or cancelling your policy, they wont do that with a wind damage claim because it's obviously through no fault of your own. Oh.. they will however probably go up on your insurance a little but they will do that no matter what the claim is, little or big so you may as well get your monies worth. Read your policy and know your rights and get what you have coming to you not just what they think you should get.
 

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Lots of people on here have good general ideas on how to handle this... I've done 1,000's of these living in an area blessed (cough) with hurricanes & having a friend who owns a tree company. Insurance will pay to remove them, please don't make it your problem or try to pocket the $$. It can be very very dangerous with out the right equipment and right knowlege. There is often massive amounts of energy stored in the tree just waiting for you to make the wrong cut. Just a single branch that is under load but doesn't look like it can send you off the roof in a split second with a running chainsaw in hand.
 

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I had hail, started out large near golf ball size and then smaller over about 15 mins. Guess ill get a new roof. Power out for 6 hrs and 3 mins. They say a tornado was seen on radar apparently never touched down but i could hear the freight train sound east of me. No other damage.
 

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Recently had a similar problem with a tree landing on an outbuilding. Fortunately nowhere near the damage. I have a tree guy with a cherry picker who took it apart in pieces and caused no additional damage, but definitely find out if your insurance covers it first.
 
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Durring the joplin tornado a friend had a large oak fall on his attached shop. Time was critical due to 1 it was using in his work truck (f-450 flat bed) as a structural member and it had broken waterlines making us shut off water to his home. My brother, me, and my friend cut the tree up in 10in pieces and carried them off the roof. Once we got the tree cut back to the 12ft side wall we used a loader to lift the tree off the side wall then cut 3 feet off it so we could set the tree on the ground and not hit the house.
 

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FYI. As lead person for our north GA Methodist Church Disaster Response Team and having formal chainsaw training- this is not a job to do for a first timer. We had to remove some trees like this in tornado struck Bartow county (Adairsville) last month and are definitely tricky.

The tops are tangled in the standing trees and as someone mentioned there maybe some spring back if you stand on the roof and cut the overhanging tree. Not impossible to remove by any stretch.

#1 get your insurance actions done ASAP.

What town are you near? You can PM back to me if needed as willing to help if we can.

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First thing I would do is safely remove whatever Items you can from the building. There is a chance that even with pros taking the trees down that they will crash completely through the building and flatten it.

Save what you can while you can but dont get crushed moving something that might be holding those trees up!
 

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Agree with GP on removal of stuff inside.

Remove the top first to take load off building. Then cut the trunk close to building. Then cut inside pieces in 2 foot lengths, then remove the trunk section.

I doubt the damage will get much worse...step by step then assess the structure- I'd rebuild the entire side and roof vs patching. But need to get the tree off and out of way. If you are near Hiram- contact Forestry Applications for advice or removal.
 
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Thanks everybody for the responses. I am in Rockmart Ga (about 60 miles NW of Atl) and we did not have a tornado but did have confirmed 100+ mph straight line winds for about 15 or 20 minutes. That's when all heck broke loose and everything happened.

I ended up with 11 trees either broken or blown down. These were the only ones that actually hit anything.

Everybody with a bucket truck was already booked, so I decided to just handle it since I needed to keep the things in the building dry.

We got out there this morning around 7:30 and started cutting the small tree's out from under the large tree's that had fallen. Then went on the roof and started by cutting near the overhang so they would fall clear of the building. Two did what we wanted, one didn't play fair and hung up on the edge. We cut that all back and pulled one off the edge of the lean to with the truck. Laid a piece of plywood on the roof and started dropping short pieces letting them fall on the plywood and roll off.

Finally got down to roof level and started bracing the roof with 2x4's and plywood and getting ready for tarps. Cut the one laying on top of the roof and rolled it out. Tarps were completed by 2pm.

I did not get the ones out of the building, but have my place in line with someone with a bucket truck to get those.

My agent lives across the road from me. He filed my claim at 6pm and the adjuster should be here tomorrow. Most of the water from the rain was funneled into the center of the floor by the pieces of roof that collapsed. That's a good thing because not much was actually wet.

I have already pulled an inventory of everything that was damaged. The building is tweaked in 2 different directions. It's sagging in the back and pushed over to one side to the point that we had to jack the door frame just to open one of the doors.

Now starts the fun part of planning a new building.

Here's a link to some more pics

https://picasaweb.google.com/117307...2013?authkey=Gv1sRgCIXf-pHg0e2IkQE&feat=email
 
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If you are near Hiram- contact Forestry Applications for advice or removal.

If they do removal, do you have any contact info for them or anyone else in this area?

Everybody around here is booked for days and days out already or simply not answering their phone.
 

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Maybe its not clear from the pictures but i dont see anything there that would need a bucket truck or crane. If you have everything cut back to the main roof line of the shed now cut the trees off just outside of the shed. That should leave you with about a 6-8 foot piece still in the shed. Now go inside the shed if it is stable enough and cut them in half inside the shed and let the pieces fall into the shed and then remove them right out the front door. Just my take going by the pictures.
 
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The front wall was unstable as well as the other wall that the tree's were laying on top of.

Had someone come in today, roped off and cut into small sections and lowered into the building. We were both a little surprised that the building shifted several inches when the first piece was cut and the tree's moved about a foot up. There was a lot of pressure on that wall that the tree was lodged in.

30 minutes and $200 later, we were both happy campers.
 
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You got some things in there moisture won't help. Your ins. guy might spring for a storage rental for a while to dry things out.
 

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I feel for you on this one, we had our fun with downed trees two years ago and I never want to have a day like that again. Let's hope the bad weather will skip over our area the rest of this year.
 
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I appreciate it, but we were very fortunate. Sure we had some tree's down and some property damage, but there were a lot that had worse damage than us. Our home and vehicles were not damaged, we never lost power and we were not hurt.

As some of you know, this area and up around Adairsville and Calhoun usually have at least one good round of storms each year and lately some of the tornado's have been very severe destroying homes, businesses and even taking lives.

We simply had some tree's down and unfortunately a few hit something. I remember back when Hurricane Opal came through. We laid in bed listening to the wind howl and tree's snapping and crashing all around the house. That year we had a couple hit the house, but nothing bad. I've seen so many homes that were completely destroyed in these storms and some that just blew away leaving nothing but a foundation. We have been fortunate over the years and pray that our luck never runs out.

As bad as it sounds, actually having something damaged is almost better than just having tree's falling all around. We lost 11 trees this time and it will be completely up to me to clean everything up and remove the trees with the exception of the ones that actually hit something. Don't get me wrong, I liked my little building but at least I'll get some of that insurance money back that I have been paying all these years and they will even pay for removal and clean up of the trees that actually hit the building.

I've got estimates of about $1,000 to clean up the 3 trees, $8,000 to replace the building and another $3,000 property loss of items that were damaged inside the building. I've still got to get a price for someone to come out and tear this building down and remove it.

The adjuster will be here Tuesday afternoon. We'll see what they have to say about everything.
 

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I appreciate it, but we were very fortunate. Sure we had some tree's down and some property damage, but there were a lot that had worse damage than us. Our home and vehicles were not damaged, we never lost power and we were not hurt.

As some of you know, this area and up around Adairsville and Calhoun usually have at least one good round of storms each year and lately some of the tornado's have been very severe destroying homes, businesses and even taking lives.

We simply had some tree's down and unfortunately a few hit something. I remember back when Hurricane Opal came through. We laid in bed listening to the wind howl and tree's snapping and crashing all around the house. That year we had a couple hit the house, but nothing bad. I've seen so many homes that were completely destroyed in these storms and some that just blew away leaving nothing but a foundation. We have been fortunate over the years and pray that our luck never runs out.

As bad as it sounds, actually having something damaged is almost better than just having tree's falling all around. We lost 11 trees this time and it will be completely up to me to clean everything up and remove the trees with the exception of the ones that actually hit something. Don't get me wrong, I liked my little building but at least I'll get some of that insurance money back that I have been paying all these years and they will even pay for removal and clean up of the trees that actually hit the building.

I've got estimates of about $1,000 to clean up the 3 trees, $8,000 to replace the building and another $3,000 property loss of items that were damaged inside the building. I've still got to get a price for someone to come out and tear this building down and remove it.

The adjuster will be here Tuesday afternoon. We'll see what they have to say about everything.

Man that's cheap for getting those three trees removed. Is that removing the stumps also? Most policies will pay so much to remove the tree from the building or what ever it landed on, then they will pay so much to have it removed and hauled off your land. Most insurance companies won't even flinch at $1200.00 per tree to have them removed. Don't leave your deductible on the table.
 
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