Stuck arbor on 15 1/2 Craftsman DP

[helmbelly]

I picked up a nice keyless chuck on ebay for my 113.213702 1970's standing DP. Popped the chuck out but the arbor stayed put. The new chuck has a nice arbor stamped "england" so I thought it was time to say good bye to the arbor as well. I snapped on some vise grips and carefully gave a few whacks with a punch and ball peen hammer - but it's not moving. Alto I did manage to ruin it.

I went to remove pulley and noticed there is no set screw in the socket, oh well. I got this thing for $50 a few years ago and it's been a great worker, no complaints. There is no nut topside - I look down and its just the top of the spline.

I guess I'll get a puller at the auto parts store but after I get that pulley out any advise on removing spindle assembly? I understand it's a Morse #2 in the machine end and J33 at chuck end? I hope not bc my new chuck is J33 both ends. Darn this was supposed to take 30 mins and the day is nearly over now...

 

[metlmunchr]

Every drill press I've ever seen with a Morse taper spindle has a cross slot thru the spindle at the upper end of the taper for removing arbors with a MT drift or MT wedge ( same tool in both cases, have seen them referred to by both names)

 

[Cruzan80]

Are you sure the machine doesn't just have the jt33 arbor built in? I don't think the Emerson Craftsman's had a MT2. Even the manual just references eating the chuck directly on the spindle.

Hopefully you didn't ruin the end of it trying to remove the "nonexistent" arbor...

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[helmbelly]

Every drill press I've ever seen with a Morse taper spindle has a cross slot thru the spindle at the upper end of the taper for removing arbors with a MT drift or MT wedge ( same tool in both cases, have seen them referred to by both names)

Apparently not these Craftsmans. Darn it, I think I ruined the intergral arbor assuming it was removable. Days work and $100 to buy a spindle assembly.

officially a bad day.

 

[DenisG]

Here's the manual (if you don't already have it):
https://www.manualslib.com/download/490886/Craftsman-113-213780.html
Page 15 shows the chuck removal.

 

[exmaxima1]

I think what the OP is saying is that he removed the old chuck from the MT33 stub on his drill press. Also he has a new chuck and that he needs to remove the arbor from it in order to mount it to his drill press.

His drill press has a simple spindle, no Morse Taper internal bore. Nothing further to remove unless he wants to replace the bearings at some time. Just leave it as is for now.

To remove the arbor from his new chuck can be very challenging. I think I would freeze the assembly and then add heat to the chuck as quickly as I could with a propane torch for a few seconds. With the arbor in a vise, I would wack the chuck with a brass hammer. Beyond that, anything else would be more invasive (ie, drilling holes inside the chuck for a drift pin attack).

 

[exmaxima1]

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[helmbelly]

Exmax thanks but you are thinking too highly of me ;-) no, it is the other thing- I destroyed my perfectly fine spindle just not doing my research. I did try to presearch it online but found a faulty comment that it was a Morse 2 /J33 - prob some Craftsman was at some point, not mine. Web can bite you if you're not careful.

I have Jacobs #6 wedge set - so I should pop that new chuck out ok. I like your torch freeze approach if it doesn't uncork like bubbly with wedges. Thanks