I use Hansen socket trays and the blue point socket holder tray.i got the red cart two posts above from a co worker and it held up but out grew it.now i have a Mac cart that I plan on trading in for the krsc33a.u will more likely start as a porter or lube tech, so u don't need to be to big on sockets and almost vehicles now are metric. I started as a freaking diesel heavy line repair tech at a ford dealer at the hight of the 6.0 era, what an expearance that was.i was prepared to be a lube tech but I was thrown in with the sharks, so I had to buy tools quick.as for dealers supplying special tools, yes they do but but not all.and depending who you work with or if they need check in or out .some techs don't return or make a mess of the tool locker, I've ended up buying my own special tools even some oem tools.as for the safety security issue, it may not be an issue to some but I have worked at a sears outlet were I learned how easy it is to break the lock, the first shop I worked at got broken into twice.hf and cm boxes were emptied out, snap on boxes were also broken into, but matco and Mac with the flush locks were beat to **** at the lock and back panels but stayed shut. Same for the other dealers that got hit on the same street.im not saying to drop big money on a huge box just make sure it's good enough for you and the enviornmet you're going to put it in.
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Cool, I'll check out the magnetic ones, I like those. rails riveted are a great idea too. I can do that cheap with some HF rails I have.
Ok so top open area of your cart is both your socket storage area AND work surface? I didn't know they were that big, sweet. Load up the cart with what you use the most, and on bigger or longer jobs also put in what you need, got it! Never far from your box, so do you sometimes use the box as a work surface? That'd make my choice easier probably. I'd more than likely just get carts (krsc33 first, 46 as an upgrade?) with flip tops or the sliding tops that are surfaces (not too sure on those yet, not quite sold. doesn't seem like it'd be that strong.)
"never at learning", never "stop" learning? So did it right the first time sometimes disregarding time? I remember you said you fix your co workers comebacks so that system must work, very good advice. Thats kinda how I work now at home or anything, I usually take longer (which I know I need work on speed a little bit) but I more than usually do it right the first time. I always have in mind and say that cliche' "if you're gonna do it, do it right." So the flate rate time isnt always super important? Some people make it seem like if you don't beat the time, you don't make any money.
And be humble, I try to be. Might sound odd but I try to be humble as well as righteous, both stem from me reading the Bible. Havent for a while but I should read more again. No one is right 100% of the time, but what I hate is when I know I'm right and someone trying to tell me I'm not. I try to show them why I'm right but that only goes so far depending how stubborn they are (which I can be stubborn at times too so I know how they feel lol). If they don't listen I have no choice but to ignore them lol.
OK haha will do. Sometimes I want to buy something because the deal is so good vs how much I would actually use it so I understand lol. Gotta relax a bit on that I guess lol. And you say you have a student discount, you work at a dealership AND go to school? If so, Bravo. Ill be going to school both morning and night on some days so Idk how you found the time, kudos.
Ah, gotcha. Kinda what I was thinking too. Except my only saving grace would be, as mentioned below, that if Im at a Toyota dealer, its all metric : ) Which is another reason I want to work there, other than my 86 and 88 Toyota MR2 Superchargers ; ) 53" heritage bottom, very nice. A bit bigger than the 2007 I was thinking. So at work you have a top and bottom, what do you use as work surface?
haha more space, that seems to be the never ending problem
Alright, cool. That usually is the deciding factor, would you buy it again? But the 33 is made overseas?? COO said USA?
Cool, thank you. cart seems a bit pricey but that box is really nice for the price
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Ah very nice, short and straight to the point. kinda what I thought too just didn't know other factors besides being all metric. So snappy cart with side box or 2 to expand, original cart therefore being a 46? Thank you!
Very cool, Im in the next city over in Burbank. Ya exactly, right on Lankershim.most of my family lived in north hollywood at one time. you hoping to work at the toyota dealer on lankershim? post some pictures of whatever you end up with.
i've always wanted one of this style for a service cart with a work top
Will do sir!, but should be in a year or 2 while I finish up school. Or at least get most of schooling done to make my schedule a little lighter to be able to fit work in. I took 56 units of Business and gen ed before I started the auto program, so I actually might come out with an AA degree on top of the certificates you get from the auto program, which would be pretty sweet. Get my year of experience and then get my ASE certifications.
O ok nice, you like the sliding top surface? Hmm maybe I should consider one a little more. What do you currently use as a cart and surface?
Haha nice, perfect. Thank you
Wife has a blue one, you have a great wife lol. Ahh, very nice. I fell in love with green when I saw it lol. Cool, good comparison and plan on upgrading to a 46, that's exactly what I had in mind If I were to use the bigger box as a work surface. Except instead of using both (don't know if you meant also have a big box, which I would want) Id use the 33 first for a while and when I upgrade to a 46, bring the 33 home. Snap On at home, couldn't ask for more lol. I currently use a Kennedy top and bottom at home so a Snap On 33 could be any more perfect, cept a 46 lol.
Oh wow, your third cart is gonna be a 33? So then I should probably get that as a first while I can with a discount, good insight. Hansen trays, nice. And blue point socket tray nice, what do use each for? And what do use as work surface?
Ya, thankfully newer cars are more and more metric, n if I go to Toyota, all would be metric lol. Dang 6.0 diesels, sounds like monsters lol. Thrown in with the sharks haha. Ya I dont want to have to buy a bunch of tools when I start, I want to have most or close to all that I need right when I go in. It ***** cus friends and family just laugh when I talk about tools cus they say I already have "enough" and/or too many already, but I know I don't
haha. I'm like how you, even though the tool can be rented from the tool room, Id rather have my own. But I do realize I can't own every tool lol (a man can try though haha jk), especially right off the bat. I didn't know it was that easy to get into a CM box. Kinda figured about HF tho : / bummer cause they are actually half decent and great price. Or especially Snap On, wow. ***** to hear about all that theft but that is great information. Maybe that is why there is more Mac and Matco at the specific dealership I'm hoping to get in to. I think I only saw 1 or 2 Snap On big boxes vs 5 or 6 Mac and Matco.MattPersman
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Krsc46 yeah I said it before will say it again. It's plenty big for a dealer tech. I work out of a jsc750 (Matcos version of the krsc46, I don't have a snap on guy currently so I had to get the Matco) all day I don't go to my larger box very often and if I kept track of the random stuff I look for in that box I cold easily fit it in my "cart". Heck my bottom drawer I barely ever even open it has my snap on ball joint kit, a brake caliper kit and my jump box. My first drawer is sockets, ratchets, extensions, 1/4 air ratchets, could easily fit more too. 2nd drawer is air tools and cordless tools, still more room to shove more in there, third drawer has screwdrivers, set of snap on metric wrenches 10-19, picks, trim tools, belt tool, etc still more room, 4th drawer has hammers, pliers, commonly used ratchet wrenches. The top just has my 1/2 and 3/8 cordless impacts a few commonly used 1/2" drive sockets, am other random junk like tire chuck, etc.
It really is a lot of box for the money especially if you want new and choice of color. I am not a nicely organized as some of the pictures you see that look so damn cool on this site but those lay outs take tons of room. It's more about functionality than looking good inside the drawers. The krsc46 is nice cause the warranty is like a relay box and it holds nearly as much as many double bays example the 4s Matco box referenced above are 21492 cu in, the krsc46 is 20783 cu in
It really is a lot of box for the money especially if you want new and choice of color. I am not a nicely organized as some of the pictures you see that look so damn cool on this site but those lay outs take tons of room. It's more about functionality than looking good inside the drawers. The krsc46 is nice cause the warranty is like a relay box and it holds nearly as much as many double bays example the 4s Matco box referenced above are 21492 cu in, the krsc46 is 20783 cu in
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From the different Matco guys I have had over the years they seem to be able to go lower on the box pricing they must have higher profit margins on them than snap on. That may be why you see more Matco and Mac boxes. All that goes out the window when you are talking about nice student discount pricing. Most of us would LOVE for that pricing once in the field for several years
You should beat the times yes. But doing it a second time for free......ill take a lil longer first go round if needed.i have a work bench in my area also that's really my work surface, but the inside top of my cart or top of my box isn't shy of calipers alternators intakes and such I just don't tear down heads or trannys on them lol. All parts on tear down go on the floor so if I'm not messing with the part it ain't in the cart. And yes never stop learning I'm a horrible typer and my iPad makes me worse sorry. I have the 1500 dollar matco exactly pictured and love it has held up very well. And 6.0 rocks made a ton of money off the, when they were booming for a long time I was the only guy who would do line work on them in an e series van.
richfinn
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Yep, I bought a few of the regularly used GM (Euro) tools if they were big time savers and the other techs were lining up to use it everyday. Mostly engine timing pins/terminal tools/fuel line pliers/bushing tools/cheap GM scanner as we only had one tech 2. etc
They all fit in one or two drawers though.
I could still work out of a big cart if I had to, the best thing about being a dealer tech is you get to know pretty fast which tools are important and which ones to leave at home, I always believed in keeping my tools as minimal as possible and keeping duplicates to a minimum.
Some guys had massive stacks full of AF/Metric/specific tooling for all the stuff they had worked on before they ended up at GM. It never got used and if it did they ended up working on non GM used cars (which the sales guys never wanted to spend any money on) so they kinda ended up costing the techs money as they were working GM times on other brands
Had to look back to first page and ya you did say 46. Sorry, it seems like I'm having a couple conversations at a time. I like that though, Im learning from different perspectives. So a 46 as my cart, not main box. Interesting, that would indeed do me right. I don't think I can afford a big box (SO,Mac,Matco) anytime soon, even with discount, so I kinda think maybe get both carts 33 and 46, and use the 46 as my bigger box for a while. Then When I can get a KRA or KRL, take the 33 home and make the 46 my cart. Metric only tools would help in keeping space down lol. Only thing Id be sacrificing for a little while would be a work surface. (which as joe says below his place has a work bench and for bigger stuff just uses the floor so I think I can get by without one for a while.) Sounds kinda expensive but not as much as a big box would be, and I think its probably a lot better than just a 33 cart and a HF box? Cool, sounds like with a well equipped cart, box trips are down to a minimum. Ah very nice, sockets and such in the first drawer, how do you organize them (assuming hansens dont fit in there)? And 1/4, you really use them? I hardly ever use em at home and my school box only has 3/8. If you do I can see an air ratchet, but do you use 1/4 impact? (saw someone selling 1/4 impact extensions and couldn't figure out why someone would use them over 3/8) Very nice, sounds like you still got a little room in there lol. You said in the top you have some commonly used 1/2", do you use 1/2 more than you do 3/8? For me so far, itd seem like Id have 3/8 and 1/2 impacts and regular 3/8 sockets in the top compartment of a cart with the more commonly used ratchets. Does that sound right?
Ya it is isn't it, seems like the best bang for the buck from Snap on besides a 33 at discount. What do you mean warranty is like a relay box? Wow almost as much as a double bay?? you're right that is a lot of room. That is a very cool statistic. only about 700 cu in from the matco, thats crazy. Makes me feel a lot better about using it as a bigger box for a while and then making it my cart.
Ah gotcha, so security isn't playing a role 100% in their decision. Good question to ask them next time I'm there. Maybe they'll let me check out their boxes and carts lol. haha ya I can def understand that, I want to take full advantage of the discount while I still can. Maybe start at the tail end of school too when my load gets lighter, and while I still have the discount. working with a discount is probably better than having a discount but only limited to financial aid lol. I might be able to use both for a little bit but after a semester, a year or something, of making enough money that will probably be too much and financial aid would cut me off. It would be more than ok if I am indeed making enough money though. Might sound dirty but it's not. I don't want to go into details about my life, but systems like financial aid and social security, that I got for a little bit til I turned 18 (now 22), were made for people like me. I don't want to make it seem like, or you to think, Im some scum trying to advantage of everything I can and double dip like some people (that I even know) do with unemployment. If you do indeed think I'm dirty, well I'm sorry, but God knows I'm not.
O ok lol gotcha. Work bench! I really hope they have one wherever I go. That would allow me to have both flip tops for a little while til I can get a proper big box. lol never shy of calipers, alt's, etc; that's a good mental picture. Really, on the floor, interesting. Saves a lot of space lol. Ah ok gotcha. Ya I won't! I love learning. Check out that ebay link I posted a few posts ago, Sportbike Performance Handbook by Kevin Cameron. Such a great book. 6.0 rocks haha. Made a ton of money off the ..? (lol) Line work? I don't think you mean assembly line?
Ok cool. Perfect policy to adopt. I do really like knowing I have it, and especially the condition it's in. You're def right about money hard to come by these days lol.
No not assembly line. As a heavy line tech diag and engine repair major repairs and rebuilds. Ya alot of the parts go in the bed of the truck I'm working on or on the floor no special cart for parts and they will most likely have a bench for you you may share it bit there will ve one
I've also never been big on buying tons of tools that I don't need. I'm not a collector or a polisher I buy the tools I need to make money and do my job right. I have tools I've only used a few times but I needed them and have them if I need them again. Don't get caught up in the tool polishing collecting deal these guys who have a ton of snap on tools who polish them and never use them and you can tell they've never turned a bolt buy good tools you can afford don't have to be snap on, and just take care of them.
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Warranty like a real box meaning all slides etc are lifetime warranty on the krsc46 it's a tool box they just made into a "cart" it's one of the best buys new out there. Just look through pages of posts and people are always needing to replace drawer slides well on this you will be covered. If all my stuff was stolen I could buy a krsc46 and just work out of it for the most part
I use 1/4 inch stuff as much as I can, smaller, lighter. You always end up using the smallest stuff you can in the field. Why do you see people talking about 3/8 impacts so much cause its easier to use all day over a 1/2 one no matter how light. I use 1/4 cordless ratchet by Milwaukee and cordless impact by Bosch and makita when possible. Light and fast no hose to be tethered to.
As far as my common 1/2 stuff well like sockets for lug nuts and axle nuts. You take lots of wheels off so why not have it up top next to the cordless impact I use to take wheels and stuff off with.
Most dealers will have a bench for you or 2 share with the guy next to you but like joe says lots of stuff goes on the floor or wherever
I use 1/4 inch stuff as much as I can, smaller, lighter. You always end up using the smallest stuff you can in the field. Why do you see people talking about 3/8 impacts so much cause its easier to use all day over a 1/2 one no matter how light. I use 1/4 cordless ratchet by Milwaukee and cordless impact by Bosch and makita when possible. Light and fast no hose to be tethered to.
As far as my common 1/2 stuff well like sockets for lug nuts and axle nuts. You take lots of wheels off so why not have it up top next to the cordless impact I use to take wheels and stuff off with.
Most dealers will have a bench for you or 2 share with the guy next to you but like joe says lots of stuff goes on the floor or wherever
csargents1546
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i don't like how much space they use personally. you can get alot of sockets on rails for the same $$ and have room left over...
for more sockets
I had one of those setups for a while as a homeowner, did not like how much space was wasted on sockets that I did not have or need. As a tech, socket rails are my friend. You can arrange them how best suits your needs and likes.
This what I work out of and how I like it set up, everything is metric.only sae is in the 1/4 set. Can work all day and only make maybe only two trips to my box all day. As for work surface the shop has workbenches on 4 corners and 2 evey other stall, if I need to Ill pull the cover back and use the top on my box.
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Nice layout on your Mac cart
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I had this same exact cart. Complete POS. Made in China. The overall construction was very flimsy. The metal tubing where the castors pressed in was so thin that when you rolled it over any uneven surface, the metal would split allowing the castor to fall out and the cart to topple over, spilling all your tools everywhere. Do not buy this. I think I paid $300 for it, but this was about 10 years ago. I ended up having to hold the castors in with hose clamps.
I had this same exact cart. Complete POS. Made in China. The overall construction was very flimsy. The metal tubing where the castors pressed in was so thin that when you rolled it over any uneven surface, the metal would split allowing the castor to fall out and the cart to topple over, spilling all your tools everywhere. Do not buy this. I think I paid $300 for it, but this was about 10 years ago. I ended up having to hold the castors in with hose clamps.
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