Student tool program

[yasha32]

I've tried contacting snap on as to to whether or not selling discounted tool boxes is allowed (from purchaser to third person) and havent gotten a straight answer. Anyone have any insight on this topic?

 

[Octarine]

They cant prohibit you from selling but they can limit how many you can purchase IIRC.

 

[BloodySinner]

I've tried contacting snap on as to to whether or not selling discounted tool boxes is allowed (from purchaser to third person) and havent gotten a straight answer. Anyone have any insight on this topic?

Why would you even do that? You purchased the product. Why wouldn't you be able to sell your own property?

 

[Ed_EOD]

Do you owe money on it? If not it is your property to do with as you see fit.

 

[G1GRANDEUR]

They cant prohibit you from selling but they can limit how many you can purchase IIRC.

Not when I was purchasing, it back in the days. They would tell us buy many as you like.

Actually If I remember right, some tool boxes are not purchasable with a student discount. Not how many.

 

[Danglerb]

Pretty sure some tech school students I've talked to said they had to sign something saying they wouldn't sell tools they get at a discount, but can't see how it could mean a thing. Its not something I would be asking about, just quietly doing if I was planning on doing it.

 

[G1GRANDEUR]

I can't remember Snap-on rep. said that, but I clearly remember Matco rep. said, he doesn't care how many we buy or sell it on ebay. lol

 

[yasha32]

I was seeing it the same way, if it is mine how can they limit me from selling it, but I wasnt sure if it was considered theft.

A person is guilty of retail theft if he or she knowingly takes possession of, carries away, transfers, or causes to be carried away or transferred any merchandise displayed, held, stored or offered for sale in a retail merchantile establishment with the intention of retaining such merchandise or depriving the merchant permanently of the possession, use or benefit of such merchandise, without paying the full retail value.

Seems as if it could be if they wanted to be asses about it.....

 

[MP&C]

If they give you a price for said goods, and you pay the price they ask, how is it theft?

 

[Roots]

Pretty sure some tech school students I've talked to said they had to sign something saying they wouldn't sell tools they get at a discount, but can't see how it could mean a thing. Its not something I would be asking about, just quietly doing if I was planning on doing it.

I believe that was in the agreement of both Snap On and Matco, when I was in their discounted tool programs. Both stated, something similar to, that you were agreeing that they were for purchased with the intent of personal use, and not to be gifted or resold. You're free to sell or gift them, at a later time though, they are your personal property after all.

Really though, the likely worst case is they suspend your access to the discounted tools program, and that's not likely unless you were heavily pushing the boxes on Craigslist or what not and a dealer got irked. I'd say with semi-regularlity, I'd see ads at my former community college of kids trying to make a few dollars selling new tool boxes for slightly more than they paid at the student price. No rep ever made an issue of it that I know of. Granted, if you're ordering multiple boxes with the sole intent of reselling them... they're be quite upset, although the maximum spending amount will prevent you from doing it too many times.

 

[shampoop]

Like they really care. They're still making a profit, and someone's gonna end up addicted to their tools.

 

[twincam00]

Keep in mind that Snap-on usually only lets you purchase one of an item at a discount to try and keep you from stocking up on popular items. I believe there is a dollar limit for the maximum amount of tool you can buy

 

[25mod]

Could also have to do with student programs are government funded and if you are just buying to sell and repeating the process; the taxpayers are also involved. All of us pay for local schools, local and state colleges and their programs. This would be similiar to those that sell a $100 food stamp card to someone for $50 cash, apply for more funding because the allotment wasn't enough. Tech students at a local college our way get fully stocked Excelite master kits for next to nothing, can't make the program and they are up for sale. Then they find out that since the government (you and me) are paying, they can't change to another program and we buy them another kit the next enrollment phase.

 

[Roots]

Could also have to do with student programs are government funded and if you are just buying to sell and repeating the process; the taxpayers are also involved. All of us pay for local schools, local and state colleges and their programs. This would be similiar to those that sell a $100 food stamp card to someone for $50 cash, apply for more funding because the allotment wasn't enough.

Are you stating or implying that tax payers are subsidizing the Student Discount Programs of the various tool companies? Tax payers subsidize most college classes, but they're not subsidizing tool purchases.

 

[25mod]

Not sure to what degree, but I would say yes taxpayers are. There is an incentive for these guys to sell cheap or why wouldn't they do so for the guys who are in to them for thousands of dollars in tools or been a customer for 10 plus years? Depending on your state...tax dollars for education are even distruibuted in a manner that supports the state universities and students about 3-5 times as much as those at community colleges who will stay in your area and state. Those college bowl games, culinary programs, trips, scholarships awarded to out of state students, and so forth all cost and use the funding available. If there were no incentives to do so, and anyone had cash in hand..why wouldn't they sell it to anyone for the same price if they are still making money?

 

[Roots]

Not sure to what degree, but I would say yes taxpayers are. There is an incentive for these guys to sell cheap or why wouldn't they do so for the guys who are in to them for thousands of dollars in tools or been a customer for 10 plus years? Depending on your state...tax dollars for education are even distruibuted in a manner that supports the state universities and students about 3-5 times as much as those at community colleges who will stay in your area and state. Those college bowl games, culinary programs, trips, scholarships awarded to out of state students, and so forth all cost and use the funding available. If there were no incentives to do so, and anyone had cash in hand..why wouldn't they sell it to anyone for the same price if they are still making money?

Marketing... selling a small collection of tools to community college or high school kids with the hope that catching them at their "impressionable" stage, will hook them into being life-long Snap On/Matco/Etc customers. The ones whom spend tens' of thousands of dollars over their life.

While they're certainly not taking a loss on the tools, by cutting out the major salesmen commissions, setting up online auto-purchase practices, etc. They can afford to sell them at a discount, possibly even at cost, as the real aim is marketing; obtaining future customers with brand loyalty. It's a different distribution channel, that has a different cost of business. I still don't see there being any tax payer subsidies.

While you could certainly argue that the tool truck companies would have more customers at a lower price point, like those offered by that form of distribution channel. They'd also lose their essential team of professional salesmen, tool truck dealers. That model wouldn't allow them to regularly visit shops, perform warranty repairs, allow weekly payments, and most importantly of all from a corporate perspective... be salesmen.

 

[George in Rancho Cordova]

Reselling caused SnapOn to discontinue the student discount program at our college.
I had one item on order (for cheaper than Craftsman price) & it was cancelled along with all the others.

 

[Al Bundy]

I'd bet money that Snap On gets some sort of government cheese for the program.

 

[twincam00]

Marketing... selling a small collection of tools to community college or high school kids with the hope that catching them at their "impressionable" stage, will hook them into being life-long Snap On/Matco/Etc customers. The ones whom spend tens' of thousands of dollars over their life.

Exactly.

 

[GoBlue]

bingo

 

[yasha32]

I personally dont like alot of the tools they provided the school, our ratchets feel like death, our sockets have no finish left and tools breaking happens quite a bit. It is hard to discern tool quality with so many people using them. The only things that stand out among the boxes is the boxes themselves and the screwdrivers. Just my input on the advertising aspect of that....

As for the resale thing after hearing program got cut for that I think I'll stay low for now.