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Sub panel penetrations

ShiftyEh

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Hoping someone can help me out, I plan on running 6/3 aluminum armoured ACWU wire (http://www.southwire.com/products/ACWU90.htm) out to my garage sub-panel. My question is what does everyone do for penetrations at house (through concrete) and at garage (through exterior wall panelling)?

At the house is it easiest to drill out a hole in the foundation large enough for the cable and run the cable directly through the wall and seal with some expanding foam? Do I need a pvc sleeve to protect the cable? Does the penetration have to be above grade? I was going to skip using a PVC LB because the hole will be right around grade level and half the LB will be buried anyways.

At the garage I do plan to use PVC pipe from the trench up to a pvc LB at the wall above grade but below where the panel will be mounted on the inside. There is only some thin exterior wood paneling and drywall on the inside to go through, no insulation. After drilling through the panelling and drywall, am I to use another LB on the inside in the opposite direction up to the sub-panel? What is the common practice for bottom feeding a panel while going through the exterior sheathing and drywall? Panel will be surface mounted to plywood.

Finally, taking into account that the armoured cable doesnt bend all that well, I was planning on stripping the armour and exposing the 3 conductors and ground at the first LB at the garage and running just the conductors the rest of the way through the second LB and up to the panel. Any issues with this?

Thanks for your help.
 
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pattenp

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I assume you're in Canada since you are using ACWU. Knowing where you are will help with getting some answers.
 

p_mori7

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I did the garage like this:

The right side 2" conduit & LB are for the incoming 100amp service from the house panel.




Inside, the sub-panel is mounted on a 36" x 60" sheet of aspenite, a section of 2" conduit goes from the LB thru the wall and ends flush with the aspenite. Spray foam inside the conduit for insulation. The entire panel will eventually be enclosed with doors.




At the house foundation, my LB is about 30" above grade through the concrete...dunno if I have a picture...

found one:




I would not trust just spray foam for the output from the house, especially if below grade. I would strive to bring it out via LB above grade to prevent water / insect / rodent intrusions...and to make it easier for any future servicing that might be needed.

Edit: Yes I did strip the armoring spiral off prior to the LB's so that only the wiring and it's rubber sleeve go into the building...I used copper rather than aluminium.
 
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LX-Markham

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Just did this yesterday. Installed a new 200A panel in the basement of the house and ran a new underground conduit to the garage, and installed the old panel from the house in the garage.

New panel in the basement. The 1 1/2" bottom conduit is the one going through the wall to the garage.
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Cored through the foundation wall.
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Up the side of the garage and through the wall.
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To the new panel in the garage.
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I also ran an empty conduit to run a water line, and the other one is a gas line.
 
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ShiftyEh

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Great, thanks for the pictures. Does the wire feeding the sub panel have to be enclosed behind a wall or in conduit where it enters the panel? I understand you are enclosing the panel with doors, but if the panel is being left as it is in that picture, does that wire need to be in conduit?
 
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